Known Ministries
Conversational Counseling
Conversational Counseling is where discipleship and counseling meet. Each season we help you apply biblical truths to your everyday life and to the lives of those around you. After decades of having these conversations in the counseling room and side by side over coffee with friends, we really believe that every single thing we’ve learned is useful within family, with your friends, at your work, with your neighbors and at your church. For free visuals and discussion questions for this podcast, sign up at knownministries.org. Known Ministries is Alex Kocher and Brenda Payne.
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Nov 3, 2026
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Episodes
S8 Ep. 2 / The Heart of the Problem is the Problem of the Heart 08.10.2024 41:38
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << Just as our physical hearts are vital for our lives, our biblical heart is the center for our spiritual life. Our heart is our inner self, the root of our tree. It affects our thinking, our feelings and desires, and our actions. Our heart, just like our w...
S8 Ep. 1 / Ten Reasons Why We MUST Talk about Sin! 01.10.2024 50:10
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << How do you view the sin in your life? Sin is the catalyst for all the problems we face in our lives. In some circumstances, sin is our responsibility, but we also feel the pain of sin when another person sins against us. Sin can manifest itself through th...
S7 Ep. 6 / Telling One Woman's Story with Lauren Duncan 07.08.2024 42:10
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << The suffering and brokenness we experience in the now and the not yet can overwhelm us and shape our view of ourselves. In our final episode of Season 7, we welcome our dear friend and talented artist Lauren Duncan to the podcast to share her story of inf...
S7 Ep. 5 / You Have a Story (Part 2) 01.08.2024 28:43
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << In Part 1, we share the importance of orienting ourselves to God first before we look horizontally to listen and support others. But how do we orient ourselves toward God? In this episode, Brenda and Alex share parts of their testimonies to practice plott...
S7 Ep. 5 / You Have a Story (Part 1) 31.07.2024 27:30
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << Every morning, we wake up and remember we live in “the now and the not yet.” The aches in our bodies and in our hearts remind us we inhabit a post-Fall world that causes pain, suffering, and brokenness. The pages of the Bible depict characters who experie...
S7 Ep. 4 / Competing Stories 24.07.2024 34:02
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << We’ve all asked these loaded questions, “Who am I? What is my purpose?” Since the Fall in the Garden of Eden, the Enemy has fought to undermine God’s story with counterfeits that promise answers to these questions. The competing stories begin early as our...
S7 Ep. 3 / Your Story and God's Story 17.07.2024 30:27
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << What moments of your life stick out to you when you think of your past? Many of us may feel trapped or discouraged because of the brokenness in our past. We wonder if our brokenness and suffering will ever end. At the same time, we feel a longing in our hea...
S7 Ep. 2 / The Bible as One Story with Adam Coppock 10.07.2024 40:00
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << Every day, we’re faced with the painful effects of sin: abuse, trauma, suffering, betrayal, broken relationships. We feel a prodding for something we cannot grasp, a resolution to our pain that’s just out of reach, as if we’ve been straining forward but...
S7 Ep. 1 / Counseling is Story Work 03.07.2024 35:19
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << What makes a good story? If we think of our favorite stories, we’ll start to notice a pattern. Many of these books or movies present the journey of a hero with a redemptive arc because God has hardwired a love for this kind of tale into our hearts. And y...
S6 Ep. 6 / Ginger Jacks: Help When Someone Has Lost a Child 11.04.2024 43:23
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << (If you've already signed up for our email list, you'll receive them at each release.) Our guest and dear friend on this episode, Ginger Jacks, lost her 17-year-old daughter in a car wreck back in 2010 when we all shared daily life together with our teen...
S6 Ep. 5 / Peggy Bruning: Help When You Love an Addict 04.04.2024 58:56
Listener discretion advised: This episode is not graphic but it does cover a sensitive topic. >> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << (If you've already signed up for our email list, you'll receive them at each release.) Drug use and abuse is a growing epidemic. And every struggler...
S6 Ep. 4 / Andrew Dealy: Help When You or Someone You Know is Suicidal 28.03.2024 51:32
Listener discretion advised: This episode is not graphic but it does cover a sensitive topic. >> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << (If you've already signed up for our email list, you'll receive them at each release.) Our guest Andrew Dealy has a family history of five generations back of...
S6 Ep. 3 / Chris Torchia: Help When Your Child Reveals Gender and Sexual Identity Struggles 21.03.2024 56:16
Note: This episode is not graphic but it does cover sensitive topics you might not be ready for little ears to hear. >> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << (If you've already signed up for our email list, you'll receive them at each release.) A lot of Christian parents haven’t spent a lot of...
S6 Ep. 2 / Marnie Ferree: Help When Your Spouse Betrays You 14.03.2024 57:28
Note: This episode is not graphic but it does cover a sensitive topic you might not be ready for little ears that may be around to hear. >> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << (If you've already signed up for our email list, you'll receive them at each release.) In this episode Marnie Ferree sh...
S6 Bonus / Shauna Van Dyke with Association of Biblical Counselors (ABC) 05.03.2024 46:14
We are SO thrilled to share this bonus episode with you!! Our colleague and quickly becoming dear friend, Shauna Van Dyke, is the Executive Director at the Association of Biblical Counselors (ABC). Shauna has an amazing heart to equip believers for the work of ministry as she sincerely believes we are all called to care. That every single one of us can live out the "one anothers" in our daily live...
S6 Ep. 1 / Christine Chappell: Help When Depression Overwhelms You as a Mom 29.02.2024 59:23
Note: This episode is particularly one mother sharing her story, but this episode will not merely benefit moms. We think the principles we talk about apply to anyone whose world has been turned upside down and is facing depression. We hope you enjoy… >> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << (If y...
S5 Ep. 8 / Tim Challies: A Story of Immeasurable Suffering and Incomparable Hope 05.12.2023 52:34
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << (If you've already signed up for our email list, you'll receive them at each release.) We’re honored to share time here together with Tim Challies. Tim’s firstborn and only son, Nick, died at college in 2020 after suddenly collapsing...
S5 Ep. 7 / When All Hope Seems Lost 28.11.2023 42:47
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << (If you've already signed up for our email list, you'll receive them at each release.) There are times when we just can’t see a way out. When all hope really does seem lost. Even very committed Christians can face very, very dark tim...
S5 Ep. 6/ How Can I Suffer Well and Help Others? 27.11.2023 39:53
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << (If you've already signed up for our email list, you'll receive them at each release.) Suffering well might sound like a contradiction, but it is the process of going to God over and over again and allowing Him to change us through the...
S5 Ep. 5 / What is God Doing in My Suffering? 14.11.2023 27:18
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << (If you've already signed up for our email list, you'll receive them at each release.) God, what good can come of all of this suffering? What are you doing in it? How long until it’s over? These are questions we have probably all asked our...
S5 Ep. 4 / How to Write a Lament 07.11.2023 37:53
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << (If you've already signed up for our email list, you'll receive them at each release.) In our conversation this episode we walk through the importance of practicing lament and how to write our own laments to the Lord. Through the practice of...
S5 Ep. 3 / Carol Collier on Lament: How to Cry Out to God in Suffering 31.10.2023 46:14
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << (If you've already signed up for our email list, you'll receive them at each release.) In our conversation this episode, we get to hear from Carol Collier who walked the horrific journey of watching her husband die of ALS. And not too long after...
S5 Ep. 2 / Where is God in my suffering? 24.10.2023 35:20
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << (If you've already signed up for our email list, you'll receive them at each release.) The general question of why there is suffering in the world is hard enough to wrestle with. But so often, our theoretical questions really spring from a place in...
S5 Ep. 1 / Why do I suffer? 17.10.2023 23:53
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << We suffer because we live in a fallen world. None of us escapes the impact of pain and sorrow and even outright evil. And honestly, this is probably one of the hardest things to reconcile for anyone who believes that there is meaning in this life. Sometimes...
S4 Ep.9 / Perfectionism 09.09.2023 40:27
Have you ever felt like you are constantly striving for something that is never quite good enough? Or maybe you just feel like you're always falling a little short? If so, then this episode might be especially for you. This week’s common struggle is perfectionism. Whether we can see it in small areas or all throughout our lives, perfectionism can quickly become exhausting, exacting and exasperatin...
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