Known Ministries
Conversational Counseling
Conversational Counseling is where discipleship and counseling meet. Each season we help you apply biblical truths to your everyday life and to the lives of those around you. After decades of having these conversations in the counseling room and side by side over coffee with friends, we really believe that every single thing we’ve learned is useful within family, with your friends, at your work, with your neighbors and at your church. For free visuals and discussion questions for this podcast, sign up at knownministries.org. Known Ministries is Alex Kocher and Brenda Payne.
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Jul 9, 2026
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Episodes
S9 Ep. 7 / Trauma: Helping Someone Tell Their Trauma Story 18.03.2025 48:23
Disclaimer: This season is about trauma, and it might be difficult at times for some listeners. It’s not graphic, but each episode does cover sensitive topics. >> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << Jesus saw us in our pain and suffering, and He sees us as we share our trauma stories. He’s mov...
S9 Ep. 6 / Trauma: Safe in Relationship 11.03.2025 34:38
Disclaimer: This season is about trauma, and it might be difficult at times for some listeners. It’s not graphic, but each episode does cover sensitive topics. >> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << How do you speak to yourself and about yourself? Do you believe you’re too much or not enough?...
S9 Ep. 5 / Trauma: Safe in God 04.03.2025 55:47
Disclaimer: This season is about trauma, and it might be difficult at times for some listeners. It’s not graphic, but each episode does cover sensitive topics. >> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << In our suffering stories, we often struggle to understand God and His sovereignty. If He is eve...
S9 Ep. 4 / Tiffany Higginbotham: Safe in Our Body 25.02.2025 1:15:22
Disclaimer: This season is about trauma, and it might be difficult at times for some listeners. It’s not graphic, but each episode does cover sensitive topics. >> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << We’re excited to welcome our dear friend, Tiffany Higginbotham, to this episode! Tiffany is a p...
S9 Ep. 3 / Trauma: Walking with Others 18.02.2025 58:01
Disclaimer: This season is about trauma, and it might be difficult at times for some listeners. It’s not graphic, but each episode does cover sensitive topics. >> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << You don’t need a degree to provide vital comfort and support for someone processing their suffe...
S9 Ep. 2 / Trauma: Two Types 11.02.2025 52:00
Disclaimer: This season is about trauma, and it might be difficult at times for some listeners. It’s not graphic, but each episode does cover sensitive topics. >> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << We invite you into our wrestling in this episode as we work towards a biblical framework of tra...
S9 Ep. 1 / Introduction to Trauma 04.02.2025 51:34
Disclaimer: This season is about trauma, and it might be difficult at times for some listeners. It’s not graphic, but each episode does cover sensitive topics. >> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << How can we as imperfect and often wounded Christians deal with trauma in our churches, our comm...
S8 Ep. 6 / The Good News for Sinners: Gospel Waltz (Love) 05.11.2024 46:42
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << Throughout this season, we’ve examined how God views sin and the sinner. While God is not soft on sin, He is exceedingly gentle and compassionate to the sinner and knows our humanity and our frailty. We finish our discussion of the Gospel Waltz and the Sa...
S8 Ep. 5 / The Good News for Sinners: Gospel Waltz (Believe) 29.10.2024 41:20
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << In the Gospel Waltz, believing is an important step we may overlook when moving from confession to action. When we confess, we must pause to believe and behold as God transforms our minds. The devil intends that our sin will destroy us and those around us...
S8 Ep. 4 / The Good News for Sinners: Gospel Waltz (Confess) 22.10.2024 36:24
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << What does repentance mean to you? When we think of repentance, we may fear the revealing of sin in our hearts. Maybe we’ve tried to conceal a sin from others because of the shame we’d feel if that sin were revealed. Perhaps we fear repentance because we f...
S8 Ep. 3 / The Capture of the Heart 15.10.2024 38:08
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << Who or what do you worship? God has given us His Word and creation to lead us to worship Him, but often as we behold the creation, we’re tempted to worship the created things more than the Creator. Sometimes we believe we need to kill our desires to avoid...
S8 Ep. 2 / The Heart of the Problem is the Problem of the Heart 08.10.2024 41:38
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << Just as our physical hearts are vital for our lives, our biblical heart is the center for our spiritual life. Our heart is our inner self, the root of our tree. It affects our thinking, our feelings and desires, and our actions. Our heart, just like our w...
S8 Ep. 1 / Ten Reasons Why We MUST Talk about Sin! 01.10.2024 50:10
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << How do you view the sin in your life? Sin is the catalyst for all the problems we face in our lives. In some circumstances, sin is our responsibility, but we also feel the pain of sin when another person sins against us. Sin can manifest itself through th...
S7 Ep. 6 / Telling One Woman's Story with Lauren Duncan 07.08.2024 42:10
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << The suffering and brokenness we experience in the now and the not yet can overwhelm us and shape our view of ourselves. In our final episode of Season 7, we welcome our dear friend and talented artist Lauren Duncan to the podcast to share her story of inf...
S7 Ep. 5 / You Have a Story (Part 2) 01.08.2024 28:43
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << In Part 1, we share the importance of orienting ourselves to God first before we look horizontally to listen and support others. But how do we orient ourselves toward God? In this episode, Brenda and Alex share parts of their testimonies to practice plott...
S7 Ep. 5 / You Have a Story (Part 1) 31.07.2024 27:30
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << Every morning, we wake up and remember we live in “the now and the not yet.” The aches in our bodies and in our hearts remind us we inhabit a post-Fall world that causes pain, suffering, and brokenness. The pages of the Bible depict characters who experie...
S7 Ep. 4 / Competing Stories 24.07.2024 34:02
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << We’ve all asked these loaded questions, “Who am I? What is my purpose?” Since the Fall in the Garden of Eden, the Enemy has fought to undermine God’s story with counterfeits that promise answers to these questions. The competing stories begin early as our...
S7 Ep. 3 / Your Story and God's Story 17.07.2024 30:27
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << What moments of your life stick out to you when you think of your past? Many of us may feel trapped or discouraged because of the brokenness in our past. We wonder if our brokenness and suffering will ever end. At the same time, we feel a longing in our hea...
S7 Ep. 2 / The Bible as One Story with Adam Coppock 10.07.2024 40:00
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << Every day, we’re faced with the painful effects of sin: abuse, trauma, suffering, betrayal, broken relationships. We feel a prodding for something we cannot grasp, a resolution to our pain that’s just out of reach, as if we’ve been straining forward but...
S7 Ep. 1 / Counseling is Story Work 03.07.2024 35:19
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << What makes a good story? If we think of our favorite stories, we’ll start to notice a pattern. Many of these books or movies present the journey of a hero with a redemptive arc because God has hardwired a love for this kind of tale into our hearts. And y...
S6 Ep. 6 / Ginger Jacks: Help When Someone Has Lost a Child 11.04.2024 43:23
>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << (If you've already signed up for our email list, you'll receive them at each release.) Our guest and dear friend on this episode, Ginger Jacks, lost her 17-year-old daughter in a car wreck back in 2010 when we all shared daily life together with our teen...
S6 Ep. 5 / Peggy Bruning: Help When You Love an Addict 04.04.2024 58:56
Listener discretion advised: This episode is not graphic but it does cover a sensitive topic. >> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << (If you've already signed up for our email list, you'll receive them at each release.) Drug use and abuse is a growing epidemic. And every struggler...
S6 Ep. 4 / Andrew Dealy: Help When You or Someone You Know is Suicidal 28.03.2024 51:32
Listener discretion advised: This episode is not graphic but it does cover a sensitive topic. >> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << (If you've already signed up for our email list, you'll receive them at each release.) Our guest Andrew Dealy has a family history of five generations back of...
S6 Ep. 3 / Chris Torchia: Help When Your Child Reveals Gender and Sexual Identity Struggles 21.03.2024 56:16
Note: This episode is not graphic but it does cover sensitive topics you might not be ready for little ears to hear. >> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << (If you've already signed up for our email list, you'll receive them at each release.) A lot of Christian parents haven’t spent a lot of...
S6 Ep. 2 / Marnie Ferree: Help When Your Spouse Betrays You 14.03.2024 57:28
Note: This episode is not graphic but it does cover a sensitive topic you might not be ready for little ears that may be around to hear. >> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! << (If you've already signed up for our email list, you'll receive them at each release.) In this episode Marnie Ferree sh...
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