Complicated Co.
Complicated Conversations
Complicated Conversations is the podcast for small and medium business owners who are done pretending it's all straightforward. Hosted by Jodie Horgan — founder, business coach, and the person behind The Complicated Coach and Complicated Co. — this is the honest conversation about what building a business actually looks like. The decisions that keep you up at night. The moments you nearly quit. The things nobody tells you at the start. No fluff. No highlight reel. Just real conversations with real founders, and the occasional hard truth you probably needed to hear. New episodes every [week/for
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Jun 12, 2026
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Episodes
We Got It Wrong. So We Started Again. | Relaunch Episode 12.06.2026 14:04
We went quiet. Not because we gave up — because we needed to get it right. Complicated Conversations is back with a new identity, a new focus, and a clear purpose: to be the business coaching podcast for small and medium business owners who are building something on their own. In this relaunch episode, Jodie Horgan — founder, business coach, and the person behind The Complicated Coach — explains w...
Ep. 5 — One Year In: Passion, Frustration & the Acceptance Edit 04.04.2026 25:34
It's been one year since Complicated Co. launched — and Jodie and Rachel are marking it with their most honest episode yet. In this episode they cover: • Rachel's one-month work anniversary and getting the printer working (finally) • Why they hit 0% of their 10-tee sales target — and why that's actually okay • One year of Complicated Co: the passion, the frustration, and the gap betwee...
Ep-4 Month One: What Hiring My First Team Member Actually Did to Me 24.03.2026 9:56
A month ago, Rachel walked through the door. This episode is Jodie flying solo — Rachel doesn't work Tuesdays — with an honest ten-minute reflection on what month one has actually looked like. Not the polished version. The real one. Jodie talks about why bringing Rachel in was a financial gamble, not a luxury. How having someone alongside you changes your focus, your motivation, and the we...
Episode 3: We Used AI to Bet on the Horses (and Other Business Lessons) 13.03.2026 22:15
Jodie and Rachel are back, properly fuelled by Mark's legendary full English, to talk about what it's actually like to use AI as a small business owner. This week: what Manus AI actually is (and why they've been calling it "Anus" since episode one), how it helped them spot a 9-second website load speed problem they didn't know they had, and why Jodie used it to pick her h...
Ep. 2— Meet Rach, Four Attempts & Why We're Doing This 04.03.2026 22:13
Welcome to Complicated Conversations — the podcast that documents the real, unfiltered journey of building Complicated Co. from the middle. In Episode 1, Jodie introduces Rachel Kennedy — her new business partner, eight years in insurance, now all in. They cover the first week, the four attempts it took to record this, the rebrand from Gambol By Gob to The Complicated Coach, and what Complicated C...
The Reality Behind the Scenes 12.02.2026 7:44
This episode is a real-time check-in from one of those days that looks productive on paper but feels chaotic underneath. I am in my office, currently in complete disarray as I talk about the reality of building Complicated Co. behind the scenes. There was a webinar first thing. Two dogs in the office. A teabag pulled from a plant pot mid-session. A content shoot that ended with a dead rabbit disco...
This Is the Middle, Not the End - An Introduction 02.02.2026 6:00
A quiet introduction to why this podcast exists, the journey that led here, and the twelve months of building that lie ahead.
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