Anthony Hobday, Katie Langerman
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A podcast about the principles and practices of interface design.
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Anthony Hobday, Katie Langerman
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Oct 25, 2026
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Episodes
13: Looks Pretty vs. Works Good 24.07.2023 43:19
Anthony and Katie discuss a listener topic around "looks pretty vs. works good". Books mentioned: Form Design Patterns, Adam Silver Designing Interactions, Bill Moggridge Hosts: Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman
12: Coherent Interface Design 10.07.2023 52:17
Anthony and Katie discuss the term “coherent” as it relates to interface design (after a bit of banter). Figma Config talks mentioned: Ashley Seto: Using color at scale for aesthetics and accessibility Duolingo: Embracing art to enhance your product CSS talk: The future of responsive design Hosts: Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign Katie Langerman, System...
11: The Value of Visual Design to your Career 25.06.2023 44:30
Anthony and Katie discuss why visual design is valuable for your career as a designer. Hosts: Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman
10: Taking Interaction Design from Good to Great 18.06.2023 50:27
Anthony and Katie discuss what takes interaction design from good to great. Things look like they act and act like they look Useful animation Physical/spatial consistency Speed and responsiveness Fiddle factor Context awareness Links: WWDC talk on fluid interfaces Hosts: Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter...
09: Pace Layering 04.06.2023 45:05
Anthony and Katie discuss pace layering, design systems and AI. Articles mentioned: Nathan Curtis: Design System UI is More Expensive than a Product Team's UI Mark Boulton: The Fast and Slow of Design Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman
08: Conveying Good Taste in a Design Portfolio 14.05.2023 42:34
Anthony and Katie discuss design portfolios, case studies, and networking. Links mentioned: Original tweet Button design walkthrough Anthony's website Checkbox design Hosts: Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman
07: The Three Pillars of Visual Design: Typography, Layout, and Color 07.05.2023 40:02
Anthony and Katie discuss what makes typography, layout and color the three pillars of visual design. Links mentioned: Non Designers Design Book Grid systems Hosts: Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman
06: Design Systems 09.04.2023 46:30
Anthony and Katie discuss design systems. Topics covered: How to define the term “design system” Design tokens Naming things and ordinal scales Breaking out of a design system Links mentioned: https://gk3fyi.substack.com/p/the-cost-of-craft
05: Improving Your Visual Design Skills 02.04.2023 34:54
In this episode, Anthony and Katie discuss how to improve your visual design skills. Topics covered: Tacit vs. explicit knowledge Systematic approaches to learning patterns Caring about design details How quality in impacts quality out Visual design inspiration links: https://www.lapa.ninja/ https://land-book.com/ https://godly.website/ https://saaslandingpage.com/ https://www.siteinspire.com/ ht...
04: Accessibility 19.03.2023 43:28
In this episode, Anthony and Katie discuss accessibility for interface design. Heads up that there's a slight audio quality change about halfway through. Topics covered: Incorporating accessibility into your design process Evaluating a design for accessibility issues How design systems impact the designer’s role in crafting accessible interfaces Designing with constraints Hosts: Anthony Hobda...
03: Skeuomorphism 04.03.2023 34:34
In this episode, Anthony and Katie discuss skeuomorphism. Topics covered: How we define skeuomorphism The rise and fall of design trends Applying realism and visual richness to flat design How design systems might handle embellishments vs. flat design Hosts : Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/KatieLa...
02: Beauty 18.02.2023 37:22
In this episode, Anthony and Katie discuss beauty. Topics covered: Universal beauty Classical vs. expressive aesthetics Practical applications of beauty The societal impact of beautiful interfaces Relying on classical beauty techniques when expressive design is out of reach
Pilot: Taste 12.02.2023 38:46
In this pilot episode, Anthony and Katie discuss taste as it relates to visual design. Topics covered: Defining taste Are you born with good taste, and can it be learned? Why taste is important for designers References: Brie Wolfson: Notes on "Taste" Hosts : Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/K...
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