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CLSC Dialogues

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CLSC Dialogues tackles complex and pressing questions about China’s emergence as a global power and its implications for the US military. The podcast uses Strategic Landpower as the focal point of discussion—providing unique and important insights that cut across the aperture of the levers of power. The forum provides senior leaders and practitioners with a better understanding of the strategies, capabilities, and the integration of the PLA into the CCP’s campaign to turn the rules-based international order to its advantage. Further, the podcast shares insights and recommendations for developi...

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May 22, 2026

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CLSC Dialogues – Ep 29 – Tom Spahr and General Xavier Brunson – “An Enviable Position in the Pacific”: An interview with General Xavier Brunson 22.05.2026

Guest host Tom Spahr and General Xavier Brunson, commander of United Nations Command, ROK-US Combined Forces Command, and United States Forces Korea (UNC/CFC/USFK), discuss Korea, the Indo-Pacific, and mission command. Keywords: Korea, China, mission command   Dr. Tom Spahr (Host) Welcome to CLSC Dialogues, a production of the China Landpower Studies at the US Army War College. The views and opini...

CLSC Dialogues – Ep 28 – COL Kyle Marcrum and Dr. Jessica Liao – Taiwan’s Special Defense Budget and KMT Trip to Beijing, Part 2 14.05.2026

In part two of this two-part episode, COL Kyle Marcrum and Dr. Jessica Liao discuss Taiwan President Lai’s special defense budget and the Kuomingdang Chair, Cheng Li-wun, visit to Beijing. Keywords: Taiwan, defense, budget COL Kyle Marcrum   Welcome back to the CLSC Dialogues, a production of the China Landpower Studies Center at the United States Army War College. The opinions expressed in this p...

CLSC Dialogues – Ep 27 – COL Kyle Marcrum and Dr. Jessica Liao – Taiwan’s Special Defense Budget and KMT Trip to Beijing, Part 1 13.05.2026

In part one of this two-part episode, COL Kyle Marcrum and Dr. Jessica Liao discuss Taiwan President Lai’s special defense budget and why it is stalled in Taiwan’s Legislative Yuan. Keywords: Taiwan, defense, budget COL Kyle B. Marcrum             Welcome to the CLSC Dialogues, a production of the China Landpower Studies Center at the US Army War College. The opinions expressed in this podcast are...

CLSC Dialogues – Ep 26 – COL Mike Long and LTG Joel B. Vowell – On the Pacific, USARPAC, and China 28.04.2026

In this episode, COL Mike Long and LTG Joel B. Vowell discuss the US Army Pacific and the role of USARPAC. COL Mike Long             Welcome to CLSC Dialogues, a production of the China Landpower Studies Center at the Army War College. The opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and not necessarily those of the Department of the Army, US Army War College, or the US government....

CLSC Dialogues – Ep 25 – Rick Gunnell and COL Michael Long – Discussion on the New National Security Strategy and its Relevance to the Pacific 27.01.2026

Rick Gunnell and Colonel Michael Long discuss the latest National Security Strategy and its implications for the US posture toward the Indo-Pacific. Mr. Rick Gunnell Welcome to CLSC Dialogues. Production of the China Landpower Studies Center at the Army War College. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the guests and not necessarily those of the Department of Army, US Army...

CLSC Dialogues – Ep 24 – MAJ Brennan Deveraux and COL Michael Long – Meet the New CLSC Director: A Conversation on Korea 24.11.2025

In this episode of CLSC Dialogues, Major Brennan Deveraux welcomes Colonel Michael Long, the new Director of the China Landpower Studies Center. After discussing COL Long’s thoughts on the new assignment, the conversation shifts to his recent experiences in Korea, offering listeners unique insights from the former Eighth Army G-5 Assistant Chief of Staff for Policy, Planning, and Strategy. Brennan...

CLSC Dialogues – Ep 23 – Joshua Arostegui, Brennan Deveraux, and Rick Gunnell – More Than a Numbers Game: Comparing US and Chinese Landpower in the Pacific Requires Context 03.09.2025

[Rick Gunnell] You're listening to CLSC Dialogues, landpower in the Indo-Pacific, a China Landpower Studies Center production. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the guests and are not necessarily those of the Department of Army, US Army, War College, or any other agency of the US government. I'm Rick Gunnel, research professor of China military studies and today we're t...

CLSC Dialogues – Ep 22 – LTG McFarlane – Commanding General of America's First Corps 14.04.2025

[Colonel Rich Butler] You're listening to CLSC dialogues, Landpower in the Indo-Pacific. A China Land Power Study Center production. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the guests, and are not necessarily those of the Department of the Army, the US Army War College, or any other agency of the US government. I am Colonel Rich Butler, the Director of CLSC. Today we are talk...

CLSC Dialogues – Ep 21 – Dan Rice – How Chinese Leaders Conceptualize Protracted War 11.04.2025

You're listening to CLSC Dialogues, a China Landpower Studies Center production. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the guests and are not necessarily those of the Department of the Army, the U.S. Army War College, or any other agency of the U.S. government. I’m Jake Rinaldi, a defense analyst at the China Landpower Studies Center. Jake Rinaldi: In this episode, we’ll be...

CLSC Dialogues – Ep 20 – Brian Carlson and David Stone – “Potential Forms of Russian Support for China in a Protracted War” 06.01.2025

In this episode of CLSC Dialogues, Brian Carlson interviews David Stone, a Russia expert from the U.S. Naval War College, about potential forms of support that Russia might or might not provide to China in the event of a protracted war in the Indo-Pacific. They discuss the likelihood of direct Russian military intervention in support of China, possible ways that Russia might create distractions fo...

CLSC Dialogues – Ep 19 – R. Evan Ellis – “China, the Illiberal Counter-Order, and the Role of Values in the Strategic Response” 07.11.2024

In this episode of CLSC Dialogues, COL Rich Butler interviews Dr. R. Evan Ellis on his recent article written for the Journal of Indo-Pacific Affairs titled, “China, the Illiberal Counter-Order, and the Role of Values in the Strategic Response.” This illuminating discussion covers what China is doing differently than the Soviets during the Cold War, and how new technology is playing a role in enab...

CLSC Dialogues – Ep 18 – Josh Arostegui and Dennis Blasko – “A Baseline Assessment of the PLA Army's Border Reinforcement Operations in the Aksai Chin” 24.09.2024

In this episode of CLSC Dialogues, Josh Arostegui interviews prominent China expert Dennis Blasko on his analysis of PLA Army and Boader Defense Unit activity along the Line of Actual Control between China and India. He describes the development of infrastructure that allows the PLA to maintain a more robust forward presence. He further describes headquarters, troop presence and rotations, and oth...

CLSC Dialogues – Ep 17 – COL Rich Butler and Markus Garlauskas – Protracted War Series: A Discussion with Markus Garlauskas 26.08.2024

In this episode of CLSC Dialogues, Markus Garlauskas discusses why we should think about the potential for a protracted war in the Indo-Pacific and what lessons we should be learning from analyzing the topic. He talks about why we should think about the likelihood of a potential protracted war should peace break in a place like Taiwan and why preparedness matters. He then discusses potential escal...

CLSC Dialogues – Ep 16 – COL Rich Butler and COL Marco Lyons – Protracted War Series: A Discussion with COL Marco Lyons 20.08.2024

In this episode of CLSC Dialogues, COL Marco Lyons discusses how the Pacific Army sees, understands, and utilizes landpower in the region from peacetime to a potential protracted war. He further articulates how the U.S. Army, Pacific conducts campaigning, prepares for crisis, deters conflict – and prevails in a protracted war, if necessary, in this unique region. Marco discusses the impact of Army...

CLSC Dialogues – Ep 15 – COL Rich Butler and Dr. Sheena Chestnut Greitens – Protracted War Series: A discussion with Dr. Sheena Greitens 08.08.2024

In this episode of CLSC Dialogues, Dr. Sheena Greitens looks at the potential for a protracted war between the US and China by exploring how a conflict could start and variables the CCP leadership may be watching. She then addresses public perceptions, economic dimensions, and how much planning Beijing may have done in preparation for a protracted war. Keywords: China, CCP, Xi Jinping, PLA, decisi...

CLSC Dialogues – Ep 14 – Josh Arostegui – Protracted War Series: A Discussion with Josh Arostegui 18.07.2024

In this episode of CLSC Dialogues, Josh Arostegui discusses some of the more salient points regarding how prepared the PRC is for a protracted war. He describes how the PLA remains designed to execute large-scale combat operations through the existence of unique PLA reserve, militia-centric organizations, and deep military integration within the country’s civilian infrastructure. Keywords: China,...

CLSC Dialogues – Ep 13 – Josh Arostegui and Rick Gunnell – An Interview with Dennis Blasko 15.07.2024

In this episode of CLSC Dialogues, Josh Arostegui, and Rick Gunnell interview renowned China expert Dennis Blasko. They discuss the origins of Blasko's interest in China and the PLA, then delve into his research and writing on Chinese landpower. Blasko provides wisdom and insight China watchers as they continue the tradition of researching, analyzing, and educating. mentoring, career, China, PLA,...

CLSC Dialogues – Ep 12 – COL Rich Butler and COL Marco J. Lyons – On "War with China: A View from Early 2024" 02.07.2024

In 2012, the late diplomat and RAND Corporation Senior Fellow James Dobbins wrote an article titled “War with China,” which was published in the journal Survival. The article asserted that there were several potential cases for conflict with China, including North Korea’s collapse and an unrestrained Sino-Indian border war. But, Dobbins claimed, as long as America could deter certain Chinese behav...

CLSC Dialogues – Ep 11 – COL Rich Butler and COL Brandon Teague – On the 5th Security Force 26.06.2024

In this episode, Colonel Rich Butler and Colonel Brandon Teague discuss the 5th Security Force Assistance Brigade and its contributions to the US Indo-Pacific and how persistent presence and advisory roles contribute to the concept of integrated deterrence. Teague also shares some recent operations activities his team has participated in and their key accomplishments. Keywords: 5th Security Force...

CLSC Dialogues – Ep 10 – MAJ Brennan Deveraux and Josh Arostegui – "Arming Allies and Partners: How Foreign Military Sales Can Change the China Problem" 18.06.2024

In this episode, MAJ Brennan Deveraux, national security researcher in the Strategic Studies Institute, and Josh Arostegui, research director and chair of the China Landpower Studies Center, discuss Deveraux's recent article, "Arming Allies and Partners: How Foreign Military Sales Can Change the China Problem," in which he proposes that regional partners will support the US military differently in...

CLSC Dialogues – Ep 9 – Dr. Sheena Chestnut Greitens – Politics of the North Korean Diaspora 11.06.2024

CLSC Dialogues – Ep 9 – Dr. Sheena Chestnut Greitens – Politics of the North Korean Diaspora Keywords: North Korea

CLSC Dialogues – Ep 8 – COL Rich Butler and Dr. John Deni – On "Coalition of the unWilling and unAble: European Realignment and the Future of American Geopolitics" 05.06.2024

COL Rich Butler and Dr. John Deni discuss Deni's book Coalition of the unWilling and unAble: European Realignment and the Future of American Geopolitics. The conversation addresses Europe's relationship with China and what it means for America and the rest of the world. Keywords: China, Europe, America, EU, geopolitics

CLSC Dialogues – Ep 7 – Christopher Sharman and Dr. Andrew S. Erickson – China Center Director Series – China Maritime Studies Institute 30.05.2024

Join Christopher Sharman and Dr. Andrew S. Erickson as they discuss the China Maritime Studies Institute at the Naval War College. Sharman serves as the director of the China Maritime Studies Institute and Erickson—who helped stand up the organization in 2006—is professor of strategy in the China Maritime Studies Institute. Keywords: China Maritime Studies Institute, China, global order, strategy,...

CLSC Dialogues – Ep 6 – Dr. Phillip C. Saunders – China Center Director Series – Center for the Study of Chinese Military Affairs 29.05.2024

Dr. Phillip C. Saunders is director of the Center for the Study of Chinese Military Affairs in the Institute for National Strategic Studies at National Defense University. In this episode, he discusses the organization’s research efforts, product lines, and more. Keywords: Institute for National Strategic Studies, Center for the Study of Chinese Military Affairs, China, global order, strategy, edu...

CLSC Dialogues – Ep 5 – Daniel Rice – China Center Director Series – Marine Corps University 28.05.2024

Daniel Rice is the China political and military strategy subject matter expert at Marine Corps University. In this episode, he explains how Marine Corps University and its Brute Krulak Center for Innovation and Future Warfare contribute to the community of interest. Keywords: Marine Corps University, China, global order, strategy, education, Brute Krulak Center for Innovation and Future Warfare

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