Clouds and Chaos

Love isn’t just a feeling, it’s how we survive the chaos. In Episode 8 of Clouds & Chaos , Justin and Kellie explore love as resistance, restoration, and legacy. From breaking old parenting patterns to teaching kids emotional safety, they reflect on 17 years of marriage, raising four daughters, and the ways love keeps a family alive through struggles. This conversation dives into: The magic of qui...

🔥 Episode 7 – “The Fire Inside” 🔥 On this episode of Clouds & Chaos , Justin & Kellie Poehls explore what happens when you finally stop shrinking, stop playing small, and reclaim your voice, rage, creativity, and presence . We talk about the fire that lives inside all of us—the spark that gets buried under burnout, parenthood, survival mode, and the noise of modern life—and what it takes to ligh...

When the safety nets fall apart, who do we lean on? In this raw conversation, Justin and Kellie wrestle with the weight of abandonment, the illusion of help, and the fire of self-determination. From grief to grit, this episode explores what it really means to build community when the cavalry isn’t coming. ✨ Theme: Abandonment, Rage, Self-Determination ✨ Tone: Defiant, grieving, sharp-edged clari...

We call it “the fog” — that heavy mental haze where alarms are going off in your head, tasks slip away mid-sentence, and even the smallest decisions feel impossible. In this episode, Justin and Kellie open up about living in cognitive collapse: when the mind short-circuits under pressure, exhaustion, and nonstop responsibility. We talk burnout, memory lapses, brain fog, and the quiet shame of feel...

We say we want rest… but what even counts as rest anymore? Between kids, work, burnout, and the pressure to always be on , the idea of “recharging” feels more like a joke than a reality. In this episode, Justin and Kellie ask what rest actually means, how it’s been stolen from us, and why reclaiming it might be the most rebellious thing we can do. ✨ Vulnerable truths, a little humor, and the remi...

This week, life happened. At 3 A.M., standing on a perfectly still beach with a few late-night strangers in the distance, Justin shares why What Even Is Rest is taking one more week — and why sometimes the most honest thing you can do is step back. Real talk, a little chaos, and a reminder that you don’t have to push through every time. New episodes return next week.

“I used to be funny. Creative. Loud. Now I feel like a checklist with legs.” Episode 3 hits deep. We talk about what it means to lose yourself — not in a cute, eat-pray-love way — but in the quiet, exhausted, burned-out way. When every day is survival and your sense of self fades into roles and responsibilities. Kellie and Justin unpack identity loss, grief for your former self, and the hard (but...

The system crashed. The promises failed. The hustle burned us out. Justin and Kellie cut through the noise to explore why exhaustion isn’t laziness—and how we start rewriting the rules. Ready to let go of the lies? This one’s for you.

Why Are We So Damn Tired?! Burnout is more than being “a little busy.” It’s a quiet epidemic. In this episode of Clouds & Chaos , Justin and Kellie ask the question so many of us feel but rarely say out loud: Why are we so damn tired? From the weight of parenthood and the pressure to keep grinding, to the ways we mask our exhaustion just to make it through the day — we unpack the cost of living in...

Before the chaos, there’s a quiet moment — and a choice to speak the truth out loud. In this prelude to Clouds & Chaos , Justin and Kellie invite you into their storm: a raw, honest, late-night conversation about survival, love, burnout, and the messy beauty of being human. This isn’t just a podcast. It’s something you feel.