Cloth & Clay Podcast

It's a question I would dare say most of us have asked at one time in our lives. When life gets difficult, we so often assume God has left us or abandoned us, even though He tells us that He will never do that. Psalm 23 has long been a favorite passage for me because I do understand what it means to walk through the darkest valley. And it was in that valley that God proved to me that He reall...

I'm so excited to bring you this episode! My oldest son, Sam Furlow, joins me on the podcast for a conversation about his life, his path to Christ, his struggles after losing his dad, and his battle with sin. He is now 26 years old and is working in full-time ministry, but the road to get here was long and winding.  If you have a prodigal child, I strongly encourage you to listen to this epis...

Pastor Lee Shipp, of First New Testament Church, joins me again in this episode. Episode 9 was so good that we stayed right where we were and just kept talking to bring you another episode that is incredibly rich. We discuss how brokenness gives God the ability to conform us into the image of Christ.  My favorite part is toward the end where Pastor Lee encourages our listeners to let go of failure...

Y'all!!!! I'm so excited to bring you this episode filmed in a new location and with a new co-host! It's just temporary...don't worry. Johnny will be back soon. This episode captures a conversation between me and my dear friend, Pastor of 20 years, former boss, and hero of the faith - Pastor Lee Shipp. Pastor Lee is the Pastor of First New Testament Church, where Clay and I att...

Hebrews 10:35-39 is a powerful passage in which the writer of Hebrews is begging the early church to hold onto their confidence. They are enduring hardship but he is reminding them how they've already endured hardship and they made it through. Now, they are growing weary, and he is encouraging them to hold on. This episode will bring encouragement and hope to you if you are weary and worn out...

In this episode, we study one of the most impactful scriptures as it relates to spiritual growth.  2 Peter Chapter 1 lays out a progression of growth that is critical to the development of our spiritual life. Peter tells us to "supplement our faith" with a list of characteristics that ultimately lead us to Agape Love!  Don't miss this episode. You will be encouraged to continue movi...

In this episode, Johnny and Kristy discuss the process of the threshing floor. Though difficult, it is so productive. The analogy is so amazing!  The more we understand about the process, the more we see how God uses the trials of our life to refine us and make us useful.  Let the Holy Spirit encourage you and help you accept the process of what God is doing in your life.  Thank you to our sponsor...

In this episode, Johnny and Kristy tell the story of how God led them to sell The Hill. If you've been following along, you know that The Hill has been one of the greatest gifts of Kristy's entire life. God has used it to launch Cloth & Clay Ministries, and it has been the location of many significant moments.  His plan, though completely shocking, was to transfer ownership to Greg &...

In this episode, Kristy and Johnny will finish their discussion that began in episode 3 titled "Let Go and Hold On". These concepts originated from a sermon Johnny preached recently about lessons he learned when his life was taken in a different direction than he expected.  Life is difficult. Tragedy finds us all. We all face unexpected outcomes.  Listen and learn some powerful strategie...

Join us in Episode 3 as Johnny talks about the principles that helped him manage tragedy. He quotes the great theologian, Mike Tyson…. “Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face!” If you relate to those words, please listen as we discuss God’s plan to help us in this life.  Thank you to The Vine and Style Encore for their sponsorship of this podcast. If you are interested in partnerin...

Those are Roxanne's words. "I want to be this girl." It's one of the most compelling things she ever said. In the face of ALS...having no idea what was ahead of her...she recorded a video in which she told the world that her illness had changed her for the better. She had grown spiritually, she no longer cared what people thought of her, and she understood what was important in...

Season 2 is here! These episodes will be released bi-weekly, so be sure to subscribe!  In this episode, Johnny and Kristy will discuss the concept of "Shock". Many of us know what it is to experience shocking news, sudden changes, or unforeseen circumstances.  Johnny will share more details about Roxanne's diagnosis of ALS, and how his relationship with the Lord enabled him to handl...

In this powerful episode, Kristy shares about the days following Clay’s brain cancer diagnosis and the deep soul-searching that led him into a season of repentance. She reflects on how pain often reveals what matters most and how remembering God's past faithfulness gives strength for today. Their story is a moving reminder that even in the hardest moments, God is still writing a redemptive st...

In this inspiring episode, Kristy shares how the people of her church became a lifeline after Clay’s diagnosis, surrounding her family with love, prayer, and support. She speaks to the beauty and power of the body of Christ, especially in times of crisis. Kristy also tells the story of how she began a simple blog to process her journey—one that God grew into a life-giving ministry of hope.

In this emotional episode, Kristy recounts the trip to Houston for Clay’s brain surgery and the weight of uncertainty they carried. She shares how, in the midst of fear and fragility, she encountered God as the One who gently binds up our wounds. Through pain and prayer, Kristy discovered a deeper trust in the healing presence of the Lord.

In this episode, Kristy shares about Clay’s recovery from brain surgery and how his scars reminded of them of God’s healing . She teaches about learning the sacred practice of bringing her sadness honestly before the Lord. Through tears and trust, Kristy discovered that God meets us most tenderly in our sorrow. She teaches how the practice of "encouraging yourself in the Lord" changed he...

In this  episode, Kristy shares how she asked God to show her what He was going to do in the midst of uncertainty and fear.  She shares practical and spiritual insights on how to pray with honesty, faith, and surrender during seasons of uncertainty. You will hear about praying prayers that are in accordance with the will of God. 

In this deeply moving episode, Kristy shares about Clay’s final days, his passing, and the powerful way his funeral became a testament to God’s glory. She reflects on the peace and purpose that marked Clay’s life, even in death, and how the service celebrated his unshakable faith. The episode concludes with a touching video Clay recorded before he died—his final words of hope and encouragement to...

In this episode, Kristy reflects on the first year after Clay’s death—a year marked by sadness, but also sweet moments with her kids.  She shares how God met her in the quiet and gave her the strength to keep going, one day at a time. She also talks about how the ministry of Cloth and Clay was born, a ministry of surrender and healing. Have you ever wondered why she named it Cloth & Clay? You...

In this inspiring episode, Kristy shares the miraculous story of how God gave her The Hill—a beautiful retreat center designed to bring healing to hurting women and others in need of healing. She draws a powerful parallel to the children of Israel standing on a hill after crossing the Red Sea, looking back at God’s victory. Through her story, Kristy reminds us that God still leads His people to hi...

In this uplifting episode, Kristy shares how God has restored joy to her life after seasons of hardship and loss. She reflects on the deep endurance God provides to help us face life’s toughest challenges with hope and strength. Through her story, listeners are encouraged to hold on to God’s promise through life’s challenges.

In this episode, Johnny & Kristy will introduce you to their story. It's a good one! And we don't want to spoil it here, so you'll have to listen to see how Johnny & Kristy ended up together after the death of both of their spouses - Clay & Roxanne. The ministry of Cloth & Clay was birthed from Clay's diagnosis of Glioblastoma in 2016. After he passed in 2017, K...