Excess Returns

Click Beta

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A futurist, a financial planner and a special guest walk into a (virtual) bar, each carrying an investing topic the others don't know in advance. Join Dave Nadig and Matt Zeigler for unscripted conversations about markets, the economy, and whatever else crosses their minds. We hope you'll walk away a more informed investor - but we guarantee you'll enjoy the journey either way

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Excess Returns

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Business

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www.excessreturnspod.com

Latest episode

Jun 6, 2026

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Episodes

“A Chaotic 30 Days” | What Happens When SpaceX Goes Public 06.06.2026

Click Beta returns with Matt Zeigler, Dave Nadig and Cameron Dawson discussing what could happen when SpaceX goes public and why this IPO may be as much a market structure problem as a valuation problem. They break down the potential impact of a $1.75 trillion IPO, 100 times sales, a small free float, forced index buying, passive fund flows, options trading, bubble dynamics and what advisors shoul...

They Call It "Broadening." The Data Says It’s Just Two Stocks 21.04.2026

Markets are sending conflicting signals right now—shrugging off geopolitical shocks, powering higher on a narrow set of AI-driven stocks, and relying on a consumer that may be spending beyond its means. In this episode, Matt Zeigler, Dave Nadig, and Cameron Dawson break down why the market feels increasingly disconnected from fundamentals—and what that means for investors navigating today’s enviro...

The Data You Trust Is Broken | What Aggregate Economic Numbers Hide 17.02.2026

In this episode of Click Beta, Matt Zeigler sits down with Cameron Dawson of NewEdge Wealth and Dave Nadig of ETF.com for a wide-ranging conversation on markets, macro data, positioning, tokenization, AI productivity, and the narratives driving investor behavior. The discussion dives into consensus forecasts, the K-shaped economy, international equity performance, dollar positioning, AI capex, and...

Nothing Has a Right to Exist in Your Portfolio | What the Last 15 Years Has Taught Us 23.12.2025

In this wide-ranging year-end conversation, Cameron Dawson, Dave Nadig, and Matt Zeigler reflect on what worked, what failed, and what the last decade has revealed about markets, diversification, and portfolio construction. The discussion moves from the collapse of traditional asset allocation assumptions to the realities of concentration risk, gold and crypto as psychological assets, and how inve...

The Bull Market Where Everyone Feels Broke | Behind the Rise of Financial Nihilism 17.11.2025

In this episode of Click Beta, Matt Zeigler, Dave Nadig and Cameron Dawson dive into the concept of financial nihilism, exploring how market behavior, culture, and economic incentives shape decision-making and individual prosperity. We discuss market innovation, the pursuit of supernormal growth, and how these phenomena impact investor psychology, social dynamics, and everyday life. The conversati...

The Rate Cut Paradox: When Lower Rates Cool the Economy 05.10.2025

When politics and markets collide, it’s easy to let emotions take over. In this episode of Click Beta, Matt Zeigler, Dave Nadig, and Cameron Dawson break down the latest government shutdown, how politics really impact markets (if at all), and what investors should pay attention to amid the noise. They also explore whether AI spending could mirror past bubbles, how Fed rate cuts might hurt the very...

Navigating a Low Trust Market 06.09.2025

In this episode of Click Beta on Excess Returns, Cameron Dawson, Dave Nadig, and Matt Zeigler dive into the trust crisis in markets, the implications of AI-driven CapEx, and how small lessons from life translate into investing wisdom. From the reliability of payroll data to the “bubbles all the way down” problem, the conversation blends deep market insights with practical rituals for navigating un...

The Liquidity Trap Door | Why the Market's Only Solution is Also Its Biggest Risk 03.08.2025

What happens when liquidity floods the system, narratives drive markets, and the international investing playbook gets rewritten in real time? In this episode of Click Beta , Cameron Dawson joins Matt Zeigler and Dave Nadig for a wide-ranging conversation that blends sharp macro insight with unfiltered commentary on global markets, thematic investing, valuation risk, and even concert etiquette. Fr...

The Market That Won’t Break | Why Risk Doesn’t Matter (Yet) 02.07.2025

In this episode of Click Beta, Matt Zeigler, Jason Buck, andDave Nadig dive deep into the paradoxical world of modern markets wheregeopolitical chaos meets relentless bullish sentiment. From potential World WarIII scenarios to AI companions whispering in your ear, the hosts explore whytraditional market logic seems to have taken a permanent vacation. They discusseverything from the "buy the d...

The Big Beautiful Debt Delusion | The Unpredictable Cost of Endless Borrowing 29.05.2025

n this episode of Click Beta, Dave Nadig, Matt Zeigler, and Jason Buck go deep on the messy realities of U.S. fiscal policy, the politics of taxation and spending, and what it really means to “get our fiscal house in order.” They dig into the latest tax bill, the implications for business owners and local economies, and the broader consequences for American hegemony and cost of capital. Along the...

The Domino's Recession Indicator | The Risks Markets Are Missing 02.05.2025

In this episode of Click Beta, Matt Zeigler, Dave Nadig, and Jason Buck dive into the complex state of the U.S. economy — from recession signals and tariffs to shifting consumer behavior and surprising cultural trends. With no Google allowed and a shared mission to cut through the noise, the crew brings their personal anecdotes, macro analysis, and economic skepticism to the table. If you’ve ever...

The Tail Risk Tipping Point 29.03.2025

Join Matt Zeigler, Jason Buck, and Dave Nadig in this unfiltered and dynamic episode of Click Beta from Excess Returns. Feeling "stupid and exhausted" from their daily grind in markets and business, the trio ditches the polished analysis for a raw, behind-the-scenes rant session. With a mix of optimism, pessimism, and plenty of tangents, they dive into pre-agreed and surprise topics—no G...

The Sovereign Wealth Fund Grift 05.03.2025

In this episode of Click Beta, Matt Zeigler, Dave Nadig, and Jason Buck bring their financial expertise to the table for an unfiltered discussion about today's most pressing economic issues. Unlike other finance podcasts that chase headlines, Click Beta aims to show viewers how industry professionals actually think through complex topics behind the scenes. The hosts dissect current events with...

Bear Markets, Trade Wars and the Knowledge Worker Recession 05.02.2025

Welcome to Click Beta - where three market professionals cut through the financial clickbait to have real conversations about what matters. In this premiere episode, hosts Matt Zigler, Jason Buck, and Dave Nadig dive into pressing topics like trade wars, tariffs, and their real-world impacts on small businesses and manufacturing. The conversation flows from corporate-subsidized jobs to cryptocurre...

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