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ClaimTalk
Welcome to ClaimTalk, the official ClaimDOC podcast, where we dive deep into the complex world of unbundled health plans. Together with industry experts, we'll pull back the curtain on a wide variety of cost containment topics. We'll provide listeners with a lot of information with a few shenanigans along the way.
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Episodes
Health Insurance Is a Mess; How'd We Get Here? – Part 2 | Ep. 25 26.06.2026 27:49
Can the problems with health insurance actually be fixed? In Part 2 of this ClaimTalk conversation, CEO Ben Krambeck, Vice President of Provider Relations Brad Hansen and Vice President of Audit Services Cynthia Swanson continue unpacking how we got here — and what it will take to change course. Building on Part 1, they explore with host Danielle Young how well-intentioned innovation, shifting dem...
Health Insurance Is a Mess; How’d We Get Here? – Part 1 | Ep. 24 29.05.2026 33:04
Purchasing healthcare didn’t become this complicated overnight. So how did we get here? Our industry experts — CEO Ben Krambeck, Vice President of Provider Relations Brad Hansen and Vice President of Audit Services Cynthia Swanson — join Danielle Young on a new ClaimTalk to trace the policy decisions, reimbursement shifts and billing changes that helped create today’s health insurance mess. From t...
How Dual Option Turned an RBP Skeptic Into an Advocate | Ep. 23 17.04.2026 23:21
Convincing consultants to bring reference‑based pricing to clients isn’t easy. Paul Saunders, executive vice president at Saunders & Company, knows firsthand as someone who once was "totally opposed" to RBP. That changed when he saw how a dual‑option approach could work: pairing a traditional health plan with a lower‑cost RBP option and letting members choose what fits them best. In...
Good TPAs – They Do Exist | Ep. 22 06.03.2026 37:52
Who's a good third-party administrator? There are many to choose from, but far fewer that consistently deliver when it matters. And the difference between a good TPA and a mediocre one often determines whether a health plan works exceptionally well or frustrates everyone it touches. Our last two episodes of ClaimTalk weren't kind to TPAs. While much of that criticism was earned, the real...
The Search for a Good TPA — Part 2 | Ep. 21 29.01.2026 40:15
Selecting the right vendors for a reference-based pricing health plan isn’t an exact science. At the end of the day, it often comes down to experience, discernment, and the ability to read the signals vendors give off long before the contract is signed. In this episode of ClaimTalk, Emma Fox, CHVA joins Danielle Young, Bruce Hansen and Stephanie Mohr to continue their unapologetically candid exami...
The Search for a Good TPA — Part 1 | Ep. 20 12.12.2025 38:12
Building a successful self-funded health plan demands skilled and efficient vendor partners that have the expertise to deliver on their promises. Identifying the best vendors can be challenging, and settling for substandard partners can lead to less-than-desirable outcomes. But how do you find the best partners? On this episode of ClaimTalk, Emma Fox, CHVA gets brutally honest during the first hal...
Why RBP Success Starts With HR | Ep. 19 23.10.2025 31:02
In 2022, Featherlite Trailers partnered with ClaimDOC to begin implementing a new reference-based pricing health plan for its employees. It's no secret that moving to an RBP plan can come with friction but, with Shannon Westin, SHRM-SCP leading its human resources department, Featherlite didn't just endure the change, they owned it. Westin joins Danielle Young and Amy Hansen on ClaimTal...
Vetting Your Vendors' Cyber Vulnerability | Ep. 18 19.09.2025 40:09
If your organization sponsors a self-funded health plan and cybersecurity isn’t part of your vendor evaluation criteria, it’s time to reassess. Protecting your own infrastructure is essential, but it’s not enough. Every vendor with access to your data must meet rigorous cybersecurity standards. Otherwise, you're not just accepting risk, you're creating it. In this episode of ClaimTalk, A...
Making Sense of Cash Pay | Ep. 17 29.08.2025 43:45
Paying cash for healthcare services is not a new concept, but it's also an option that is not widely used. The reason for that is because many providers prefer to accept reimbursement from insurance. But cash pay does have its advantages. On this episode of ClaimTalk, Danielle Young visits with Amy Pellegrin and Leah DeBartolo about the pros and cons of cash pay, how health plans can create s...
Adapt or Fall Behind: Making Nontraditional Plans Thrive | Ep. 16 17.07.2025 23:27
For nontraditional health plans to work — whether they use reference-based pricing or another strategy — they often require customized solutions. As health plans evolve, vendors can't ignore new methods to give plan members what they need. In this episode of ClaimTalk, Amy Pellegrin and Stephanie Mohr visit with Sharla Mallett, a member of our direct primary care team. They discuss how the DP...
Direct Contracts & Healthcare Pricing Complexities – Part 2 | Ep. 15 20.06.2025 31:58
Whether you're using a reference-based pricing strategy or some other alternative, there are many challenges in creating an effective direct contract. Much of the time, they boil down to the complexities of healthcare pricing in one way or another. Whether it's compliance with regulations, plan design or services billed by a third party, creating an effective direct contract requires a p...
Direct Contracts & Healthcare Pricing Complexities – Part 1 | Ep. 14 22.05.2025 30:08
Healthcare access can be the biggest hurdle to successfully implementing a reference-based pricing plan. Sometimes it requires creating an agreement called a direct contract between a health plan and a provider to ensure access to that provider. Direct contracts are an effective tool for RBP health plans, but they can be more complicated than they sound. On this month's ClaimTalk, experts Ja...
Claim Denials: Their Rippling Effect on Health Plans | Ep. 13 24.04.2025 39:58
Claim denials are a complex piece of the healthcare system, and they can cause frustration for patients and providers alike. There are many reasons claims can be denied, whether it's due to technical errors, subrogation or if it's deemed not medically necessary. Experts Alex Arnet, Colton Casonand Carrie Kennedy join this month's edition of ClaimTalk to peel back all the layers of c...
Balance Bill Protection: Often Promised, Rarely Executed | Ep. 12 27.03.2025 26:30
A strong balance bill defense is essential to a successful reference-based pricing health plan. But what does that look like? And how do you know what you're being offered isn't just lip service? The answer is fiduciary responsibility. ClaimDOC Balance Bill Manager Alex Deeter and Chief Legal Officer Amy Pellegrin join this month's edition of ClaimTalk to discuss why it's impor...
PBMs: Are You Getting Good Advice – Part 2 | Ep. 11 20.02.2025 33:20
In the second half of a two-part episode on PBMs, experts Marc A. Sweeney, Trevor Daer and Mike Kroupa return to discuss some of the intricacies of the pharmaceutical industry. They tackle complex topics like international drug sourcing, specialty drugs, GLP-1s and more.
PBMs: Are You Getting Good Advice? – Part 1 | Ep. 10 16.01.2025 26:20
There are several key vendor decisions brokers and plan sponsors must make when unbundling a self-funded health plan, including pharmacy benefit management. On a new episode of ClaimTalk, self-funding experts Marc Sweeney, Trevor Daer and Mike Kroupa will help you evaluate if you're making the best decision on your drug spend.
When the 'Easy' Plan Isn't Member-Friendly | Ep. 9 20.12.2024 43:45
BUCAs may seem like the easy, all-inclusive choice, but they don’t offer the personal, one-on-one assistance most health plan members actually prefer. Plus, no plan sponsor should accept inferior member service — whether big network or reference-based pricing. In this month’s episode of ClaimTalk, Michelle Henaman and Heidi Martinez share the gaps in service you need to DEMAND get filled for your...
ADVISORS UNLEASHED - Part 2 | Ep. 8 13.11.2024 26:02
In this month's episode of ClaimTalk, brokers and industry experts Craig Gottwals and Mike Kerns are back for ADVISORS UNLEASHED — Part 2. They go even deeper into the benefits consulting industry, offering more brutally honest insights you won't hear anywhere else.
ADVISORS UNLEASHED - Part 1 | Ep. 7 17.10.2024 37:57
This month's edition of ClaimTalk is the first half of a two-part discussion with brokers and industry experts Craig Gottwals and Mike Kerns. They provide an inside look at the benefits consulting industry in a no-holds-barred conversation you won't want to miss.
Got a Provider Access Fire? Call in a Fixer | Ep. 6 19.09.2024 24:36
Access will always be an obstacle with RBP medical plans. At ClaimDOC, we believe obstacles can be overcome. Our first wave of attack is proactive provider education through Pave the Way. When that’s not working, we turn to Austin Miller and our team of fixers. Learn more about Austin's journey at ClaimDOC and how our provider relations team uses data and relationships to ensure access in a n...
Keeping Claims Honest — The Role of a Fiduciary | Ep. 5 22.08.2024 32:59
As a fiduciary, you are responsible for ensuring medical claims are billed accurately. If your plan administrator is prevented from auditing claims due to the network contracts, who is fulfilling this duty? Cynthia Swanson and Amy Pellegrin join this month's episode of ClaimTalk to discuss egregious billing practices and what it is required to be a compliant fiduciary.
How Do You Measure Great Member Experience? With Baby Pictures | Ep. 4 18.07.2024 15:50
How do you silence RBP noise? In this month's episode of ClaimTalk, we interview rock star member advocate Amanda Ogg, and our training manager, Lori Van Groningen, about how they approach the challenges facing our members. There would be no headache-free direct access to care or cute baby pictures without their efforts.
Winning the RBP Access War, With or Without Contracts | Ep. 3 19.06.2024 25:50
Direct contracts are very different from direct access. In our latest episode of ClaimTalk —Winning the RBP Access War, With or Without Contracts — two of our legal experts share how we interact with providers to make sure DirectAccess+ members can receive medical care when they need it and from whom they want to receive it.
RBP From the Front Lines: It’s As Personal As Healthcare Gets | Ep. 2 10.05.2024 26:02
Is the member experience too challenging with reference-based pricing programs? Listen to Bruce and Stephanie discuss the challenges our member advocates face each day as they help members navigate their medical plans. And hear about the successes they achieve directly from one of our member advocates.
NSA Claims - Surprise Billing and the Shocking Mistakes that Cost Plans Money | Ep. 1 09.04.2024 35:49
No Surprise, the No Surprises Act has unintended consequences when administrative errors are costing plans money. Join us and we'll share some horror stories from open negotiations and tips for making sure your clients aren't just compliant, they are protected. #ClaimTalk #Transparency #NSA
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