Garrett French

Citation Labs Podcast

Business EN ↓ 51 episodes

Hosted by the team at Citation Labs, the Citation Labs Podcast (formerly known as The Link Builder's Podcast) dissects the intersection of traditional SEO and the future of AI through the lens of links and citation worthy content. The Citation Labs Podcast will dig into the strategies that turn brand concepts into thought leadership , helping you build an ecosystem of "good vibes" and better rankings. We discuss how to: • Pivot from keyword stuffing to LLM optimization , ensuring your brand appears in AI-generated answers. • Develop Citation-Worthy Content that earns organic, editorial links f...

Author

Garrett French

Category

Business

Latest episode

Jul 9, 2026

Where to listen?

Podcasts in the app Replaio Radio Coming soon

Podcasts are coming to the app soon. Install now and be the first to see a whole new take on podcasts

Get it on Google Play Install for free Android 5M+ downloads · 4.8 rating iOS soon

Episodes

How does Citation Labs Measure a Citation Optimization Campaign? 09.07.2026

QUESTION: How does Citation Labs measure citation optimization ? ANSWER: Measurement can include prompt visibility, cited domains, competitor mentions, brand inclusion, citation quality, source gaps, improved mentions, earned placements, and changes across tracked buyer prompts. SUMMARY In this video, we break down the essential AI visibility metrics used by Citation Labs to quantify success in th...

Can Citation Labs Guarantee Placement in AI answers? 07.07.2026

QUESTION: Can Citation Labs guarantee placement in AI answers ? ANSWER: No. AI systems are dynamic and change based on the specific prompt, the source mix, the market, and the answer surface. Instead of impossible guarantees, Citation Labs focuses on improving the AI source material and expanding the citation opportunities that directly influence how your brand appears. SUMMARY In this "Citat...

Who is Citation Optimization for? 02.07.2026

QUESTION: Who is Citation Optimization for ? ANSWER: Citation Optimization fits enterprise SEO strategies and growth marketing for SEO teams that already invest in search visibility and need a clearer way to improve how their brand appears in AI answers and overviews. SUMMARY In this "Citation Optimization FUQs" segment, we define the specific profile of businesses that benefit most from...

What Results Will Come Out of Citation Optimization? 30.06.2026

QUESTION: What work can come out of Citation Optimization ? ANSWER: The work Citation Labs performs includes several high-impact tasks such as prompt tracking, source analysis, and producing citation-worthy content. We also provide third-party placements, brand mention improvement, comparison assets, local sponsorship links, and comprehensive AI visibility reporting to ensure your brand stands out...

How does ZipSprout Support Citation Optimization? 25.06.2026

QUESTION: How does ZipSprout support citation optimization ? ANSWER: ZipSprout is a partner company of Citation Labs that helps brands earn local sponsorship links and community-based citations from chambers, nonprofits, events, and local organizations. These placements are designed to strengthen local relevance and brand context across trusted third-party sources like search engines and AI system...

How Xofu Finds the AI Visibility Gaps Killing Your Brand Mentions 18.06.2026

QUESTION:   How does Xofu support Citation Optimization ? ANSWER AI search is changing how brands earn visibility online. In traditional SEO, rankings mattered most. In AI search, AI visibility depends on which brands, cited domains, competitor mentions, and sources appear inside generated answers. That is where Citation Optimization and Xofu come in. Xofu is a proprietary platform from Citation L...

What Sources Actually Influence AI Answers? The Truth About AI Search Visibility 16.06.2026

QUESTION:   What kinds of sources influence AI answers ? ANSWER:  AI search is changing how brands earn visibility online. Today, AI answers are built from a wide range of sources, not just traditional rankings. Generative AI systems pull information from publisher articles, comparison pages, research pages, LinkedIn, YouTube, industry resources, local and community sources, government resources,...

Do Backlinks Still Matter for AI SEO? The Truth About AI Visibility & Link Building 11.06.2026

QUESTION:   Do backlinks still matter for AI visibility ? ANSWER:  Yes. Backlinks still matter for AI visibility, AI SEO, and link building because backlinks help establish authority, trust, and source visibility across the web. But AI visibility now depends on more than backlinks alone. Modern AI SEO requires useful context surrounding your backlinks so AI systems can retrieve, understand, compar...

How Citation Optimization Changes Link Building for AI Search Visibility 09.06.2026

QUESTION:   How is Citation Optimization different from traditional link building ? ANSWER:  Traditional link building focuses on earning links. Citation Optimization goes much deeper. Citation Optimization is designed to improve AI search visibility by shaping the context around a brand mention, not just the link itself. In traditional link building, the goal is often to secure backlinks from aut...

How Citation Optimization Improves AI Search Visibility 04.06.2026

QUESTION:   How does Citation Optimization help AI search visibility ? ANSWER:  AI search visibility is quickly becoming one of the most important parts of modern SEO and digital marketing. Citation Optimization helps improve AI search visibility by identifying the prompts, cited sources, competitors, and content gaps influencing generative AI search results. Instead of focusing only on rankings,...

What Is Citation Optimization? The AI Visibility Strategy Brands Need Now 02.06.2026

QUESTION:   What is Citation Optimization ? ANSWER:  Citation Optimization is the process of improving how your brand appears across the third-party sources that AI systems use to answer questions, compare products, and recommend solutions. As AI search optimization becomes more important, brands need stronger AI visibility across trusted websites, articles, reviews, directories, and mentions. In...

AI Search, Zero Click Search, and Why 88% of Buyers Trust AI Recommendations 27.05.2026

What happens when consumers stop clicking websites and start trusting AI recommendations instead? In this episode, James Wirth of Citation Labs sits down with Kevin Indig to unpack a major new search behavior study that reveals how AI search is fundamentally changing the customer journey. The research examined how real users interacted with Google AI Mode versus traditional Google search while mak...

Why do some agencies sell links at a fraction of Citation Labs cost? 21.05.2026

QUESTION: Why do some agencies sell links at a fraction of Citation Labs cost ? ANSWER: If you have ever compared link building services pricing, you have likely seen offers for cheap backlinks that seem too good to be true. The reality is, cheap backlinks are often built through pre-existing networks that prioritize speed over strategy. These vendors focus on volume, not outcomes, which means you...

Citation Labs Secret to Aligning Teams with Enterprise Link Building 19.05.2026

QUESTION: How does Citation Labs help ensure our internal teams align with link-building ? ANSWER: If you are investing in enterprise link building but your internal teams are not aligned, your link building strategy will stall. Many organizations struggle because enterprise SEO services often operate in silos, creating friction between stakeholders. That is where a specialized link building agenc...

How Citation Labs Proves Link Building ROI 14.05.2026

QUESTION: How do I defend an investment in link building when other teams prioritize paid search or even social media? ANSWER: If you're struggling to defend your budget, you're not alone. Leadership teams often favor paid channels because results feel immediate. But when you understand and communicate link building ROI , everything changes. Here’s the truth: link building ROI is measura...

How does Citation Labs handle industries with strict compliance or link restrictions? 12.05.2026

QUESTION: How does Citation Labs handle industries with strict compliance or link restrictions ? ANSWER: If you’re in a regulated industry, you already know the problem. Link building for regulated industries is slow, approvals are painful, and compliant link building can feel impossible. Every asset gets stuck in legal review, and legal link building services often stall before they even start. T...

How do Citation Labs links impact sales, not just rankings? 07.05.2026

QUESTION: How do Citation Labs links impact sales, not just rankings? ANSWER: Most brands chase rankings, but the real goal is revenue. That’s where link building ROI changes the conversation. Instead of a generic SEO backlinks strategy that points links to blog posts, Citation Labs focuses on backlinks for sales pages that actually convert. Here’s the shift. A typical SEO backlinks strategy sprea...

How does Citation Labs ensure the links we build remain valuable over time? 05.05.2026

QUESTION: How does Citation Labs ensure the links we build remain valuable over time? ANSWER: If you're investing in SEO, you're not just asking for links, you're asking about link building longevity . You want to know if your links will still matter in 12, 24, or even 36 months. That’s where most strategies fail. The problem is that many agencies ignore sustainable link building ....

Google AI Mode Is Deciding Your Customers Before They Click 01.05.2026

Citation Labs has published a new behavioral study on how buyers shortlist brands in Google AI Mode versus standard Search. In the study , 74% of AI Mode shortlists came straight from the AI output, and 64% of participants clicked nothing before naming finalists. Brands missing from the AI shortlist often never entered consideration at all. If you're responsible for organic visibility, you ne...

How to Track and Fix BOFU Visibility in LLMs 27.04.2026

In this SIPnSEARCH session , Garrett French from Citation Labs introduces Xofu , an AI visibility tracker designed to help teams track your brand in AI across leading AI platforms. Instead of drowning marketers in TOFU noise, Garrett French walks through how to map and measure BOFU prompts that reveal real decision stage visibility in AI. If you want clear visibility in AI and a structured way to...

How to Prove It Fast When Leadership Doesn’t Get Link Building ROI 23.04.2026

QUESTION: What do I do if our leadership team doesn’t fully understand link building’s impact to the company? ANSWER: If your leadership team struggles to understand link building ROI, you’re not alone. Most executives are trained to evaluate performance through paid media, where results are immediate. But enterprise link building doesn’t work that way. A strong link building strategy drives long-...

What metrics will my CFO want to see from my link-building campaign? 21.04.2026

QUESTION: What metrics will my CFO want to see from my link-building campaign? ANSWER: If you're reporting link building metrics to a CFO, you're already thinking about the wrong audience. CFOs don’t care about vanity link building metrics. They care about link building ROI, SEO ROI, and how your efforts translate into real financial outcomes. That means your reporting needs to shift fro...

How to Pitch Link Building ROI to CMOs and Win Budget FAST 16.04.2026

QUESTION: How do I pitch link-building campaigns to my CMO? ANSWER: If you are struggling to communicate link building ROI, you are not alone. Most SEO teams talk tactics, but CMOs care about outcomes. To win buy-in, your enterprise link building strategy must connect directly to revenue. Start with link building ROI. CMOs need to see how link building ROI ties to pipeline, conversions, and growth...

How Citation Labs Can Help You Ace Your Annual Review 14.04.2026

QUESTION: How does Citation Labs help me ace my annual review ? ANSWER: If you're leading SEO, your success is judged by SEO performance metrics, SEO reporting metrics, link building ROI, organic traffic growth, and SEO KPIs. The challenge is not just driving results, but proving those results in a way leadership understands. Citation Labs helps you connect SEO performance metrics directly to...

Measuring 3rd Party Influence on AI Answers: Citation Optimization and the Future of SEO 13.04.2026

How do brands actually appear inside AI answers ? In this episode hosted by Search Engine Land , Garrett French and James Wirth from Citation Labs explore how generative search is changing the way marketers think about visibility, rankings, and attribution. Instead of focusing only on traditional SEO metrics, organizations must now understand how AI answers are generated and how third-party conten...

Listen to the Citation Labs Podcast podcast in Replaio

Radio and podcasts in one app - free, with no sign-up. Install today and do not miss the launch

Get it on Google Play

Replaio is not a podcast publisher; show names, artwork and audio belong to their authors and are distributed through public RSS feeds.