Emma Crossland & Sam Wilkinson

Chat out of Hell

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How did two massive dorks create some of the most bombastically stupid rock opera of all time? Join equally massive dorks Emma Crossland and Sam Wilkinson as they delve into the works of Meat Loaf and Jim Steinman. Every episode our intrepid pair both brings one of Loaf or Steinman's works to the table to dissect in meticulously lazy detail, exploring the torrid lives of music's most on-again off-again best pals one week at a time.

Author

Emma Crossland & Sam Wilkinson

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Music

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www.buzzsprout.com

Latest episode

Jul 6, 2026

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Episodes

7.2 - The Future Ain't What it Used to Be | If It Ain't Broke, Break It 06.07.2026

Chat out of Hell dives into the soundtrack of the awful Jim Steinman / MTV Wuthering Heights movie this episode, and surfaces with something wonderful. But also a lot of dismay. The wonderful probably does outstrip the dismay but it is a close run thing. Oh, Jim. PLUS we finally find a decent link between Meat Loaf and Star Trek, Sam tries to remember how a Bajoran space pope died, and a considere...

7.1 - Stark Raving Love | Razor's Edge 08.06.2026

We're back to discuss more of the works of music's 93rd most fractious duo. We open series seven with a chat about Jim Steinman's solo effort Stark Raving Love and manage not to insult him too hard for once, then it's off to see where Meat Loaf's ended up during the filming of the Razor's Edge video. PLUS some nonsense about Andy's Records (remember Andy's R...

Film Club 6 - Wuthering Heights (Not That One) 26.05.2026

Time for a quick film club before we dive into series seven! In a break from Film Club tradition we only interrogate one film this episode, to give us time to talk about something good (Emily Bronte's marvellous novel Wuthering Heights) before we crash into having to discuss something awful (Jim Steinman's MTV movie transplating Wuthering Heights to 2003 California). Oh dear. Keep your c...

6.6 - Torna a Sorrento | Like a Rose 23.03.2026

From high-culture to the lowest of the low, it's Chat out of Hell! As we close out series six with listener requests, Sam pays attention to what Meat Loaf was up to when he sang with Pavarotti for the children of Bosnia, while Emma draws the short straw and has to listen to some sexist crap he did with Jack Black. But we still answer other Meat Loaf-adjacent questions, like: - What kind of so...

6.5 - Love is Not Real | Our Love and Our Souls 09.03.2026

Justin Hawkins, Sean McDonnell and a whole load of Our Souls, it's Chat out of Hell! Time to get into the deep Meat Loaf adjactent questions, like: - How many early 2000s ITV celeb reality shows can you name? - What did Brian May think of Meat Loaf? - Honestly, what was that soldier dying on the battlefield actually thinking of? PLUS we get into it with Rednex's football anthem and all t...

6.4 - Left in the Dark | A Kiss is a Terrible Thing to Waste 23.02.2026

Off we go again! Time for us to analyse the saddest Jim Steinman you've ever heard, the fairly saddest Barbra Streisand, and just a regular Meat Loaf.  And with those three gathered, we can get some answers. Answers to questions like: - What made the Everly Brothers fall out? - How many Steinman stage shows featured a motorbike in the big first act closer? - How many veterans of the UK milita...

6.3 - My Little Red Book | Man of Steel 12.02.2026

Don't tell anyone, but Emma went on holiday and Sam forgot to schedule the publishing date of the episode this week. Bit awks. BUT not half as awks as what Meat Loaf gets up to this episode! Man of what? - Why is he like this? - Why is Jim the way he is? - Why are Heck's sausages so delicious? PLUS a pretty flawed way of wedging in Rednex, and some other sundry nonsense. Keep your commen...

6.2 - You Never Can Be Too Sure About the Girl | Rock N Roll Hero 26.01.2026

We give Jim Steinman a rest on the bench this week, and instead discuss Meat Loaf's Divorced Dad era as he warns us about how you can't trust women in You Never Can Be Too Sure About the Girl then just sort of gently shouts a bit in Rock N Roll Hero. And while we're here, he answers questions like: - What paranormal creature is Midnight at the Lost and Found really about? - What pos...

6.1 -Read 'Em and Weep | Going All the Way (A Song in Six Movements) 12.01.2026

Here we go, diving into series six! Two delicious slices of Meat Loaf are served in the forms of Read 'Em and Weep then Going All the Way. And why we enjoy them, we'll mull over the big questions like: - What's the opposite of pearls? - What did the doctor say to the famous sad clown Barry Manilow? - Is there a finer sausage than Heck's Sausages? #thechickenonesarereallynice PL...

Chat out of Hell's Rory Dodd Interview 25.12.2025

Behold, it's Chat out of Hell's Christmas Surprise! Rory Dodd, lovely man and centrepiece of the Steinman Sound, was kind enough to sit down and chat with us about his life, work, and secrets of finding good bargains in Ontario. It was an absolutely lovely conversation and we hope you like it too. See you January 12th for the next series of Chat out of Hell! Let us know what you thought...

Film Club 5 - Spice World | Wayne's World 22.12.2025

Ho ho ho! Time for a most festive Film Club! We'll be diving into Meat Loaf's worldliest of movies as we take a look at Spice World then realise we've talked for a normal length episode but still have to cover Wayne's World. Truly, our labours never cease. BUT THAT'S NOT ALL THE FESTIVE CHAT! Come back on Christmas Day for a very special episode indeed, we're super ex...

5.6 - Somebody Loves Me | Good Girls Go to Heaven (Bad Girls Go Everywhere) 17.11.2025

An end of term vibe delayed by a bit of illness brings us to this, the true end of term - Chat out of Hell series five, episode six. Meat Loaf gets all classy and covers Gershwin in the first half, then Emma has to explain that Good Girls go to Heaven is actually about self-enjoyment and ruins it for everyone. But we still have time to dive into the important questions, like: - Which Vaudeville pe...

5.5 - More Than You Deserve | California Dreamin' 20.10.2025

As we cruise towards the end of series five, we’ve time to visit more of Jim’s dodgy musical past, but then cleanse our palate with a very modern dodgy cover of an absolute classic. And while we’re there, let’s ask some questions like: - Is Emma more of a Bert or an Ernie? - Is Jim Steinman more of a 70s Kermit the Frog or the rubbish modern one? - What did Bob Mortimer think of Mr Blobby? PLUS so...

5.4 - No Matter What | In the Land of the Pig, The Butcher is King 06.10.2025

Chat out of Hell moves as close as it's ever been to boy band territory this episode as we check in with Jim Steinman's collab with Andrew Lloyd Webber, which somehow led to a single from Boyzone. Meanwhile Meat Loaf rocks the heck out to a track from the never-seen Batman: The Musical and we all wonder if it was a good idea. But while we do, we answer the big questions, questions like:...

5.3 - Cry Over Me | Amnesty is Granted 22.09.2025

We call back in to see what Diane Warren's been up to this episode, as we listen to the third of her Meat songs in Cry Over Me, before Sammy Hagar barges in with the hard-rockin' Amnesty is Granted. But during all that, we get to answer the big questions: - How good a video can you make in four hours? - What was the deal with Bat out of Hell III? - Is A Very Merry Muppet Christmas any go...

5.2 - A Time For Heroes | Holding Out For a Hero 08.09.2025

Continuing the theme of doing themes, this episode we take a look at two rockin' songs about heroes. And somehow made it through the whole thing without once talking about Cadbury's Heroes. Well done us. But we did discuss the big questions, questions like: - What on earth was going on at Marvel comics in the late 80s? - What's gone wrong with nerds lately? - Is it wise to dance on...

5.1 - Tear Me Down | Objects in the Rear View Mirror May Appear Closer Than They Are 25.08.2025

Five alive! But not the delicious soft drink of the 1980s. We're back for the first proper episode of series five with an exploration of Meat Loaf's sad origins. And really, they are sad. Poor bloke. But we still managed to find some fun in there, as we also get answers to the big questions. Questions like: - Is there anything Michael Bay can't wedge an explosion into? - Is there an...

Film Club 4 - Ghost Wars 11.08.2025

It's nearly time for new Chat out of Hell, but first there's a summer blockbuster film club! And what a blockbuster it is, as we watch 13 episodes of the SyFy original series Ghost Wars. Don't say we never do anything for you. Chat out of Hell returns for series 5 on Monday 25th of August, where we'll dive into Meat Loaf's early days with Objects in the Rear View Mirror fr...

4.6 - Kickapoo | California Isn't Big Enough (Hey There Girl) 30.06.2025

Chat out of Hell earns its explicit tag this week and it's all Meat Loaf's fault. It's two songs from the cheeky boys of silly rock as we start with Meat guesting on a Tenacious D song then straight into a Justin Hawkins-penned number about his schlong. You know, his nob. His junk. His bits. His wang pipe. His donger. His one-eyed trouser snake. His pump-action yoghurt gun. His liza...

4.5 - Surf's Up | Masculine 16.06.2025

Grab your boards and hit the waves, dudes. Surf's Up! Jim Steinman's sportiest song slash rude joke meets Meat Loaf's MANLIEST number in this episode. We're stuck in the 80s again, so there's big shoulders and pastel coloured suits aplenty. BUT: - How MANLY can one song be? - Was Meat Loaf in on the joke? - Why does masculinity smell just like Lynx Africa? PLUS all the usu...

4.4 - I'm Gonna Love Her For Both of Us | Making Love out of Nothing at All 02.06.2025

There's a spate of inadequate male lovers in this episode. Is Meat Loaf's friend a bad boyfriend? Are Air Supply just a bit too full of themselves? We stay firmly in the early 80s this time with a not-hit from Dead Ringer and an arrogant Best of from Air Supply. BUT: - Is "white soul ballad" a compliment? - What's Emma's bath technique? - How sympathetic is Meat Loaf...

4.3 - (I'd Love to Be) As Heavy as Jesus | Stand in the Storm 19.05.2025

Where did Meat Loaf's career begin? Not here, but it's quite close. Time for another break from Jim Steinman's zany antics as we dive into Meat Loaf's Motown past and his angry... well, not future. More recent past. This episode we dive into Meat's first recorded album and then some shouty angry MAN ROCK from one of his later ones. And on the way, we'll answer some of...

4.2 - Dead Ringer for Love | Runnin' for the Red Light (I Gotta Life) 05.05.2025

I don't know anything about you baby, but Chat out of Hell is everything you're dreaming of. Assuming you dream of adequate podcast analysis of the works of Meat Loaf and Jim Steinman. This episode we take a break from Jim Steinman's byzantine theatre career and go back to the absolute rockers from the mouth of Meat Loaf. Dead Ringer for Love and Runnin' for the Red Light vie f...

EXTRA Bat Musical Review Special 26.04.2025

This is a very special extra bit of Chat out of Hell. If you're interested in our thoughts on the Bat musical currently touring the UK, this is the right place! If you're not, we totally get it and we'll see you on the 5th for a proper episode instead. BYE! Bow now now now Send us Fan Mail

4.1 - The Dream Engine (Dream Engine) (Dreams) (Engines) 21.04.2025

Chat out of Hell is back to go where other podcasts won't - in this case, to Jim Steinman's very first musical creation. This episode we dive into the Dream Engine - produced at Amherst College in 1969, burning a trail through rock and roll history for the rest of time. Our interepid duo dive deep into this murky sea, providing the answers to questions like: - What sort of socially aware...

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