Joshua Citarella, Interdependence, New Models
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an aggregated feed of Joshua Citarella, Interdependence (Holly Herndon & Mat Dryhurst), New Models (Caroline Busta, Daniel Keller, Lil Internet)
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Jul 5, 2026
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The Permaweird with Venkatesh Rao 10.02.2023 1:10:05
After some weeks of nativity bliss and medical drama we are back! A joy to invite Venkatesh Rao to take us down a number of his bunny trails, focussing initially on his great piece The Permaweird, the latest in his Great Weirding series. We discuss the tendency to call "crisis!", a generally ambient sense of weirdness, and how the latest developments in AI suggest that isn't slowing down any...
230130: Parler TOS community jury, Davos shock collar (real), UFO encounters USS Nimitz, modern vs traditional masculinity, Adolph Reed Jr cont. 07.02.2023 2:30:06
Follow: https://www.twitch.tv/joshuacitarella/ Links: https://blog.parler.com/what-is-the-parler-community-jury/?mtm_campaign=emailnewsletter&mtm_source=emailnewsletter012623&mtm_medium=email https://twitter.com/loffredojeremy/status/1619786795943710721?s=20&t=GI2lr5bfQP8BfzChZ6v89w https://twitter.com/JoshuaCitarella/status/1620093263742115841 Extraordinary Until Proven Otherwise u/ak...
Leigh Phillips on Nuclear Power and Eco-Austerity 30.01.2023 53:05
People's Republic of Walmart co-author Leigh Phillips joins me to discuss eco-austerity, neo-malthusianism, degrowth, socially necessary atmospheric carbon and the on going debate around economic planning vs. neoliberalism. Follow on socials: twitter.com/Leigh_Phillips Get the books: www.versobooks.com/books/2822-the-…blic-of-walmart www.johnhuntpublishing.com/zer0-books/…orn-addicts
NM57 | The Redescribers w/ political scientist Kevin Munger 28.01.2023 57:06
Situated amid political communication theory, social media information economics, and the vanguard of social science methodology, Kevin Munger (Assistant Professor of Political Science and Social Data Analytics at Penn State University) visits NM to share his post-2010s framework for understanding the future of networked culture. Kevin is the author of Generation Gap: Why the Baby Boomers Still Do...
NM Special Report | Paradigm Trilogy II w/ Kat Korbjuhn 21.01.2023 46:57
Creative director Katharina Korbjuhn updates NM on Paradigm Trilogy , the mobile-first editorial vehicle she launched in 2021 to address how the fashion-adjacent creative sector is changing. As Paradigm’s second release, “Man vs. Machine” is largely set in Berlin and features contributions from several denizens of the New Models sphere, we invited Kat to come on the podcast to discuss the id...
NM Dispatch: America Diaries AW2023 (mini-bonus ep) by Ian Beckman Reagan 17.01.2023 7:26
In the spirit of the NM America Diaries, NM member Ian Beckman Reagan penned his own observations of life in the DC/MD/VA region in late 2022. In particular, he zeroed in on the rising tide of hand-picked, freshly-crafted “algo-treats” and a new app-enabled brick-and-mortar-supported start-up that’s leading the market in hawking them. For Carly & Lil Internet’s America Diaries AW2...
Proof of Body 16.01.2023 14:59
I wrote the unthinkable (but true) take for the new issue of Document Journal. https://www.documentjournal.com/2022/12/raw-eggs-pink-pills-and-embodied-identity-online-communities-create-their-own-proof-in-a-vacuum-of-truth/
NM Dispatch: America Diaries AW2023 (Pt. 2) by Lil Internet 10.01.2023 17:30
Carly & Lil Internet reflect on their time spending late December in the USA—mostly in Maryland and Virginia—with spoken monologues on life/death cycles and the spectrum of real vs. simulation. Part 2, written by Lil Internet, includes notes on NFT skyscrapers, Cormac McCarthy, and gracefully aging arcade machines. This is part of two of three America Diaries we’ll be releasing in the coming d...
NM Dispatch: America Diaries AW2023 (Pt. 1) by Carly Busta 07.01.2023 20:37
Carly & Lil Internet reflect on their time, these past 2 weeks, in the USA—mostly in Maryland and Virginia—with spoken monologues on life/death cycles and the spectrum of real vs. simulation. Part 1, written by Carly, includes notes on flat design and the neo-Catholic church; sports betting and direct-to-consumer prescription pharmaceutical marketing; the failed Renaissance start-up that under...
NM56: The Para-Real w/ Cade Diehm of New Design Congress 24.12.2022 41:52
Digital design theorist Cade Diehm joins NM to discuss his new paper, “ The Para-Real: A Manifesto ” (published via C/O Berlin and New Design Congress), which gives language to a zone that’s become increasingly prevalent as digital spaces merge into continuous territories. The Para-Real is not the “metaverse,” Cade argues, but a fertile, momentary form of consciousness where the physical here...
Air Age Blueprint, machine sentience and interspecies comms with K Allado-McDowell 13.12.2022 1:21:12
Hey everyone! Holly is due to give birth this week so our recording schedule is taking a temporary hit (leave name ideas in the comments). Fortunately we recently linked up with the inimitable K Allado McDowell at Berlin's HKW to discuss their new book "Air Age Blueprint" with a live audience, out now on Ignota Books, as well as recent controversies around AI sentience, and K's own work exploring...
BONUS: Bonn After Hours w/ artists Dena Yago & Joshua Citarella 09.12.2022 52:00
Recorded mid-“Future of Critique”-conference in the former West German capital of Bonn, this conversation with New York-based artist & consultant DENA YAGO (formerly K-HOLE) and artist JOSHUA CITARELLA real-talk-debriefs some of the structural models on which legacy criticism built its house. Topics include: the museum’s changing cultural status, the knock-on effects of “anti-gatekeeping” disc...
NM Special Report: Pret-à-Panique w/ Dean Kissick 03.12.2022 1:08:08
Over the past few weeks a new strain of polycrisis has penetrated Western tech stacks… but where to begin? The main character meltdowns (Kanye, Elon, SBF)? The unmooring of their terrain (fashion, twitter, crypto)? Or the mega luxury brand situated at center of an apopheniac-swarm’s conspiracy scheme? To help us make sense of it all, we invited New York based writer Dean Kissick to join us for thi...
Mat Dryhurst on Platform Populism 01.12.2022 47:36
Spawning.ai, 20th century bohemianism, the ‘brahmin left’ vs. the ‘merchant right’. Join us to discuss how new technologies and class interests are shaping creative practice in 21st century. This episode is part of a new series of one-on-one conversations with Channel creators. Follow: twitter.com/matdryhurst www.instagram.com/matdryhurst/ twitter.com/hollyherndon www.instagram.com/holly_herndon/...
Mental models and next gen AI tools with Cristóbal Valenzuela (Runway) 30.11.2022 1:03:04
Runway have been on an absolute tear of late offering new AI tools for their creative production suite, so we invited CEO Cristóbal Valenzuela to join us to discuss their approach, and how the mental models of artists and greater society may change in accordance with the shifts happening. Try out Runway: https://runwayml.com Follow Runway: https://twitter.com/runwayml &nb...
NM55 | viral.rip w/ Kreayshawn aka Natassia Gail Zolot 25.11.2022 47:19
Sometime in the early 2010s, the internet started directing culture. No longer were magazine editors and record execs making stars, they were finding them online with the hope of capturing these artists’ viral successes. Among that wave of internet-first creatives was the Bay Area’s Natassia Gail Zolot aka Kreayshawn, whose 2011 track & video Gucci Gucci was a massive hit that remains an epic...
Covid space travel and AI rabbit holes with Andy Turner (Plaid) and Emma Catnip 23.11.2022 1:13:44
A great joy to host Andy Turner and Emma Catnip to discuss their work in celebration of the release of Plaid's latest album Feorm Falorx. We discuss their intergalactic space travel over the covid lockdown, our mutual rabbit-holing over the latest AI tools and techniques, and the situation for touring artists as they prepare to take the record on the road. Experience Feorm Falorx, the album and gr...
NM Lecture | Do You Know Where You Live? (audio), Future of Criticism, Bundeskunsthalle Bonn, 18/11/22 22.11.2022 33:14
The implosion of legacy media structures with the shift from top-down publishing and broadcasting to decentralized distribution, and the rise of audience-user as laborer have completely altered the terms of attention and cultural power. This past Friday (18 Nov. 2022), Carly & Lil Internet delivered a keynote on this transition from linear to holographic media for the “Future of Criticism” con...
Nate Sloan on Aristotelianism 17.11.2022 45:51
Bro, is science even real? Epic crossover event of economic base vs. ideological superstructure. Nate Sloan, host of the Pneumatic Materials podcast, joins me to discuss mysticism, rationality, christ, the demiurge, geo-engineering, the incomplete project of the enlightenment and the shifting meta-frames for today’s political reality. https://www.patreon.com/pneumaticmaterials https://www.i...
NM54 | Damn Nation w/ journalist James Pogue 09.11.2022 1:17:52
What exists beyond America’s blue-checkmark core? Journalist JAMES POGUE ( Harper’s, New Yorker, American Conservative , plus author of the 2022 Vanity Fair chartbuster “ Inside the New Right: Where Peter Thiel is Placing His Biggest Bets ,” as well as his 2018 book, Chosen Country ) joins NM just before the 2022 midterm elections to sketch out the emergent USA he sees. Along the way, we talk loca...
Synthetic Trival and Semilla AI with Hexorcismos 08.11.2022 1:34:08
We catch up with Moisés Horta Valenzuela (Hexorcismos) to discuss his remarkable experiments with music and machine learning, and his upcoming software project Semilla that experiments with co-ownership of musician AI models shared for anyone to use. Just...the best. Listen to Hexorcismos: https://hexorcismos.bandcamp.com/ Follow Hexorcismos: https://twitter.com/hexorcismos Check out Semilla: http...
Jen Pan on the New Old Left 01.11.2022 48:36
Jen Pan, former host of the Jacobin Show, joins me to discuss YouTube political messaging, elite activist language and what social democracy can do for art. Stay tuned for her forthcoming book from Verso. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/JacobinMag Read: https://jacobin.com/
New economic kinks and Extitutional theory with Primavera De Filippi 25.10.2022 1:16:07
Primavera De Filippi of the French National Centre for Scientific Research (CNRS) and Harvard's Berkman Klein Center for Internet and Society joins us to discuss her economic experiments, her groundbreaking art project Plantoid, her novel concept on Extitutional theory, and her current thoughts on the state of crypto. Follow Primavera: https://twitter.com/yaoeo?lang=en An Introduction to Extitutio...
Mallhammer 40k w/ artist Jon Rafman (NM52) 14.10.2022 52:03
In Berlin with parallel shows at Galerie Sprüth Magers and Schinkel Pavillon, artist JON RAFMAN joins NM to speak about collective memory, the fractured self, embracing the cringe of new consumer tech, and post-net art’s post-lockdown resurgence. For more: IG: @jonrafman https://jonrafman.com/ Fall 2022 shows @ Sprüth Magers & Schinkel Pavillon
Other intelligences and prepping for utopia with James Bridle 13.10.2022 1:23:56
Hi everyone! Back in the saddle after an enforced little break prompted by a peculiar cluster of medical scare, pregnancy and founding a new organization. What a wild year. Thrilled to host James Bridle to discuss his recent book on ecologies of non-human intelligence "Ways of Being", animal sensing and co-operation, deliberative democracy, the singing origins of language, cybernetics, and a great...
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