Joshua Citarella, Interdependence, New Models
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Jul 5, 2026
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Episodes
My Political Journey: U 11.06.2023 16:57
My guest is a 16 year old Anarcho-Capitalist. He is a long time user on Instagram and highly influential in niche corners of the internet. **recorded: May, 2020**
Lil Internet on the Physics of Social Media 30.05.2023 49:52
From Myspace “Top 8” to VR glasses (less powerful than ideology), Lil Internet joins me to discuss how new technologies are shaping creative life in the 21st century. This episode is part of a series of one-on-one conversations with Channel creators. Follow: https://www.instagram.com/lilinternet/ https://twitter.com/lilinternet https://www.instagram.com/newmodels_io/ https://twitter.com/NEWMODELS_...
NM65 | U Wasn’t There w/ artist & filmmaker Ben Solomon on inter-millennial NYC 24.05.2023 1:13:42
Joining this episode is Ben Solomon aka King Solomon aka KSER IRAK. Born and raised in downtown New York, Ben is an artist, filmmaker, and part of the legendary graffiti crew IRAK, which is to say a legendary part of the history of the city itself. We’ve wanted to have Ben on the show forever (in part because he and Lil Internet have known each other forever) but also because few besides Ben are b...
230522: 13 Ways of Disinformation, Angela Nagle’s Scarce Labor Theory, Metaverse in Janky Capitalism, Ivy League Culture Wars, Catherine Liu’s Trauma in the Digital Age, more 23.05.2023 2:35:12
Hello there farmer - MAGAcommunism music video The Right Stuff: Dating Right Scarce Labor As The Cause Of Innovation A Guide to Understanding the Hoax of the Century - Tablet Magazine https://dis.art/the-metaverse-in-janky-capitalism Josh Kline on the unfolding disasters of climate change and AI | Under the Cover Jen Pan: Higher Education Culture Wars Catherine Liu - What is Trauma in a Dig...
Cryptids and Conspiracy in the Technocene w/ Nadim Samman 17.05.2023 19:51
Nadim Samman, curator at KW Institute for Contemporary Art in Berlin, joins me to discuss his new book, Poetics of Encryption: Art and the Technocene. get the book: www.hatjecantz.de/nadim-samman-8254-1.html socials: www.instagram.com/nadim.samman/ www.instagram.com/kwinstitutefcontemporaryart/
CROSSOVER: Joshua Citarella x Carly Busta re/ media & the public sphere 17.05.2023 51:17
Note: On request, we're re-posting this original Joshua Citarella podcast episode to the Channel feed as this version includes a special NM intro. In late 2022, artist and Do Not Research progenitor Joshua Citarella started a series of one-on-one conversations with other channel.xyz members, diving into the current focus of each. The first episode Josh recorded was with Interdependence ’s Mat Dryh...
NM64 | Infinite Drake w/ artists Holly Herndon & Mat Dryhurst 02.05.2023 1:05:06
Few, if any, are more conversant in AI’s impact on creative production than HOLLY HERNDON and MAT DRYHURST. In part this is because the artist-musicians (and hosts of the Interdependence podcast) have also become, out of necessity, technologists . And perhaps it’s due to their DIY drive to not just comment on but actually build the tools and protocols artists need to more effectively navigate the...
Catherine Liu on the Professional Managerial Class 30.04.2023 1:01:28
Catherine Liu, professor of film and media studies at UC Irvine, visits the podcast to discuss Phillip Guston, the PMC and cultural institutions. She is the author of Virtue Hoarders (2021). cliuanon.substack.com/ twitter.com/bureaucatliu www.upress.umn.edu/book-division/b…virtue-hoarders
230424: 13 Ways of Disinformation, RIP Parler, Illegal Memes (real), Astolopolitics, Universal Army and more 25.04.2023 2:19:40
A Guide to Understanding the Hoax of the Century - Tablet Magazine https://blog.parler.com/conservative-girl-shopping-guide/ The Regime’s War To Make Memes Illegal – Gab News Biden PROSECUTES Anti-Hillary Meme Poster | Breaking Points Anti-Hillary Meme Lord CONVICTED By Biden | Breaking Points How to dress your age, with Gavin McInnes The Five Phases Of Pluto In Aquarius An American Utopia: Fredri...
NM Short: Lil Internet’s notes on BELLY (1998, dir. Hype Williams) 23.04.2023 15:46
The first and only feature from famed music video director Hype Williams (Missy Elliot, “ The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly) ,” 1997; The Notorious B.I.G., “ Mo Money Mo Problems ,” 1997; TLC, “ No Scrubs ,” 1999), Belly is a ‘90s crime drama set in NYC starring Nas, DMX, Taral Hicks, Method Man, and T-Boz with cameos by Sean Paul, Method Man and others. Upon its release, the movie was widely panned a...
NM63 | Loss of Distinction w/ art critic Ben Davis 17.04.2023 1:02:22
National Art Critic for artnet News and the author, most recently, of Art in the After-Culture (Haymarket, 2022), Ben Davis speaks to New Models about his recent essay “How We Ended Up in the Era of ‘ Quantitative Aesthetics ,’ Where Data Points Dictate Taste.” For more: benadavis.com Tw: @benadavis https://news.artnet.com/opinion/quantitative-aesthetics-2276351 Art in the After-Culture (Haymarket...
My Political Journey: N 11.04.2023 16:04
My guest is a 20 year old Left Communist. He began by exploring 4chan, /leftypol/ and Kik messenger. In 2019, he joined an IRL political organization. We discuss Bookchinites, leftcom killing fields, proletarian discontent, shitposting and animation. **recorded: July 2, 2020**
NM62 | How to Blow Up A Pipeline w/ filmmaker Daniel Goldhaber 07.04.2023 1:16:22
Adapting climate scholar Andreas Malm’s How to Blow Up a Pipeline (2021, Verso) for the silver screen, Daniel Goldhaber has transformed Malm’s non-fiction manifesto into “one of the most original American thrillers in years" (Roger Ebert). As it sees its US theatrical release this week, Daniel joins NM to speak about the film, the state of indie filmmaking, and the terms of politically engaged cre...
Demystifying AI training law with TechnoLlama 04.04.2023 1:12:42
Everyone and their llama is talking about AI ethics and law, so we invited the high Llama Andres Guadamuz, an eminent researcher in AI and IP, to discuss the particularities and uncertainties of AI training law, in honor of his recent paper on the subject. It is an issue of our time. We make it fun. A Scanner Darkly: Copyright Infringement in Artificial Intelligence Inputs and Outputs: https://pap...
Infowars & Goop: Wellness Products 28.03.2023 49:20
All the "wellness" products Americans love to buy are sold on both Infowars and Goop: https://qz.com/1010684/all-the-wellness-products-american-love-to-buy-are-sold-on-both-infowars-and-goop its real folks Auto-Experiment: Hyper-Masculinity: https://www.patreon.com/posts/auto-experiment-55888347
NM 61 | Dubai’s Next Top Model w/ futurist Noah Raford & writer Shumon Basar 26.03.2023 1:05:00
Western frameworks for governance and development are stunningly ill-equipped for the world that’s unfolding in front of us—one marked by the rapid dissolution of legacy institutions and the break-neck advent of AI. On this episode, we are joined by two big-horizon thinkers highly knowledgeable in the machinations of the UAE—former chief futurist of Dubai Noah Raford , and the writer/critic/thinke...
Latent space exploration with Damien Roach aka patten 21.03.2023 1:06:48
We caught up with Damien Roach, aka patten, aka 555-5555, to discuss the need for new language to navigate the abstract implications of machine learning for our understanding of art, and the limitations of the modernist approach. We also eventually get around to discussing his beautiful new record "Mirage FM" created in part with Riffusion, a text-to-audio model. Follow Damien: https://twitter.com...
NM Dispatch: Dubai Diaries 2023 13.03.2023 30:04
In which Carly & Lil Internet make their first visit to Dubai and return with a new world module installed on their mental hard drives. Many thanks to Shumon Basar and Art Dubai’s Global Art Forum 16 “Predicting the Present” for making this trip possible. At the GAF conference Carly & Julian gave a talk titled, “Predicting Media,” followed by discussion with Shumon. We'll update this post...
My Political Journey: J 13.03.2023 17:31
My guest is a 22 year old reactionary who is "extremely-online". He was a Bernie supporter in 2016 and self educated on sites like 4chan, Instagram and Youtube. We discuss authoritarianism, libertarianism, the enlightenment, neoreactionary theory, Hindutva, vegetarianism and shitposting. **recorded: August 5, 2020**
230306: Christian Nationalist AI, Libertarian-Stalinism Anti-War Rally (Real), Zero Carbon Concrete, East Palestine Lib Takes and Lots of Domestic Terrorism 07.03.2023 2:27:44
Catch the live stream: twitch.tv/joshuacitarella Links: 领风者 / The Leader / Вождь s01e02 "Defending the rights of the people" 1080p Introducing Gabby: Our Friendly AI Bot That Generates Amazing Images – Gab News Why The Worldview of The People Building AI Matters SeaBrick, Better and Less Expensive than Concrete, It’s Eco Restorative and Sequesters CO2 https://twitter.com/GynoHaz/status/16...
NM60 | Code Couture w/ writer Olivia Kan Sperling on the programming logic of style 27.02.2023 1:07:04
This episode is nominally about the state of style but ultimately is about the changing media paradigm that underpins how we signal through sartorial codes in 2023. New York-based writer Olivia Kan-Sperling is our guest. She is an assistant editor and regular contributor to The Paris Review and her work has appeared in publications such as Interview , Praxis , Heavy Traffic , and Cabinet . Last ye...
Caroline Busta on Linear Media and the Public Sphere 26.02.2023 48:39
CB joins me to discuss how new technologies and ideologies are shaping the public sphere in the 21st century. This episode is part of a series of one-on-one conversations with Channel creators. Follow: https://www.instagram.com/cbcb2000 https://twitter.com/cbcb2000 https://www.instagram.com/newmodels_io https://twitter.com/newmodels_io https://newmodels.io/ www.channel.xyz/
NM59 | 4-EVER-DIS w/ DIS's Lauren Boyle 19.02.2023 54:32
As DIS returns to Germany for the first time since members Lauren Boyle, Solomon Chase, Marco Roso, and David Toro curated 2016’s hotly contested Berlin Biennale 9 , Boyle joins New Models to talk about the generation-defining project’s trajectory since its inception in the late-‘00s, its recent film installation Everything But The World (on view through Feb 26 at the Schinkel Pavillon in Berlin),...
My Political Journey: R 13.02.2023 8:52
My guest is a 16 year old Anarcho-Communist who was an Eco-Fascist in 2019. “R” is a co-admin on a popular leftwing meme account. The week before recording this episode she attended a Black Lives Matter protest in a nearby major city. We discuss neoliberalism, classical liberalism, esotericism, schizoposting, e-boys, accelerationism and mental health. **recorded: June 9, 2020**
NM58 | Public Access w/ artist Cory Arcangel 11.02.2023 1:01:52
Artist Cory Arcangel joins New Models to chat about his practice at large during the closing days of his Kunstverein Hamburg show, “ Flying Foxes .” The conversation originally aired as live video via the Kunstverein, with an intro by the show’s curator, Nicholas Tammens. The audio has been adapted by Lil Internet for the NM Audio Metaverse™. For more: https://coryarcangel.com Cory Arcangel,...
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