Martin Rizzo-Martinez & Daniel Stonebloom
Challenging Colonialism
Challenging Colonialism amplifies Indigenous perspectives on issues of concern to native Californian communities. It is our intention to create an educational resource where anyone can hear the perspectives of Indigenous peoples in their own words. It is not our intention to further colonize the narrative, or to misrepresent stories that are not our own. The podcast is produced by Martin Rizzo-Martinez, a Professor & Historian, and Daniel Stonebloom, a public school administrator. Our music is by G. Gonzales, and the logo art ("Chumash Revolt") is by Professor John Jota Leaños.
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Episodes
s03e05: Interview with Archaeologist Kent Lightfoot 02.02.2026 59:19
In our previous episode we explored an example of collaborative, Tribal centered archaeology in looking at the Amah Mutsun Summer Archaeology Program, which collaborated between the Amah Mutsun Tribal Band and Archaeology students and professors at the University of Oregon. In this episode we speak with Dr, Kent Lightfoot, recently retired Distinguished Professor Emeritus of Anthropology at the Un...
s03e04: Collaborative Archaeology 09.01.2026 1:09:56
In our last season, we explored the problematic colonial roots of the academic fields of Anthropology and Archaeology, "Salvage Anthropology" and legacies of extractive and exploitation of Indigenous communities. In this episode we will share an example of how some contemporary archaeologists are working closely with Tribal members to focus their research on issues that are of interest and helpful...
s03e03: The Scandal of Cal with Tony Platt 27.10.2025 1:03:14
This episode includes an interview with Tony Platt, author of The Scandal of Cal: Land Grabs, White Supremacy, and Miseducation at UC Berkeley. Dr. Platt is the author of thirteen books and 150 essays and articles on race, inequality, and social justice in American history, among them Beyond These Walls: Rethinking Crime and Punishment in the United States ; Bloodlines: Recovering Hitler’s Nurembe...
s03e02: Refusing Settler Domesticity by Caitlin Keliiaa 29.09.2025 54:29
This episode includes an interview with Caitlin Keliiaa about her new book, Refusing Settler Domesticity: Native Women's Labor and Resistance in the Bay Area Outing Program . Dr. Keliiaa's study explores the history of young Native women’s lives and experiences as Bay Area domestic workers through the San Francisco Bay Area Outing Program, connected with the Indian Boarding Schools. You can find m...
s03e01: Indigenizing California Mission Art and Architecture By Yve Chavez 29.08.2025 1:02:24
As we resume the Challenging Colonialism podcast after a break, we will be diving into a series of book talks with Indigenous Californian scholars and allies. We are fortunate to be in a time where there are many excellent and important studies being published. We wanted to share these works with our listeners. The first in this series is the new book Indigenizing California Mission Art and Archit...
Special Episode: We Will Protect Juristac Event (Amah Mustun Speaker Series) 03.03.2025 1:03:34
Audio from the "We will protect Juristac" event at UC Santa Cruz, hosted by the American Indian Resource Center (AIRC) held on 11/9/24. SPEAKERS: • Valentin Lopez - Chairman of the Amah Mutsun Tribal Band • Athena Hernandez, Esq. - Tribal Member & Attorney for the Amah Mutsun Land Trust • Alexii Sigona - Tribal Member & Chair of the Lands Committee of the Amah Mutsun Land Trust, PhD Candid...
Special: Our Stories Converge Because the Perpetrators are the Same (p. 3 of 3) 01.05.2024 57:22
The final episode of our 3 part special series explores a variety of ways to show solidarity with Palestine, with a focus on the Indigenous People's Sunrise Gathering at Alcatraz last Fall. We are publishing during escalating police and institutional repression against Palestine solidarity encampments which are spreading rapidly on college and university campuses. Audio editing: Daniel Stonebloom...
Special: LandBack & Right of Return: Sister Movements (p. 2 of 3) 23.04.2024 1:02:08
Part 2 of 3 part series. As a podcast focused on illuminating ongoing colonialism and genocide, we recognize the need to address genocide happening right now in occupied Palestine and to stand in solidarity. Our podcast is dedicated to amplifying the voices of Indigenous communities who are left out of official discourse. As such, it is important to amplify the voices of Palestinians right now, as...
Special: Solidarity from Turtle Island to Palestine (p. 1 of 3) 16.04.2024 1:39:55
This three part series was inspired by the outpouring of solidarity statements and gatherings by Indigenous Californian communities. As a podcast focused on illuminating ongoing colonialism and genocide, we recognize that it is crucial to address the genocide happening right now in occupied Palestine and to stand in solidarity. Our podcast is dedicated to amplifying the voices of Indigenous commun...
s02e10 Museums: Let Them Know We're Still Here (Season 2 Finale) 07.02.2024 1:25:59
Our 10th and final episode of Season 2 extends our critique on the history of colonial acquisitions and collections with a focus on the colonial legacies of the institutions of Museums. We focus on the California Indian Museum and Cultural Center, recent movements to 'decolonize' museums as with the Museum of Us in San Diego, and discuss whether it is possible to ultimately decolonize these instit...
s02e09: "The Archive is a Dangerous Place" 04.12.2023 1:00:00
Episode 9 explores the ways in which colonialism and colonial collections have impacted the development of archives, and the restrictions of these spaces. We follow the stories of Indigenous scholars who have worked to reclaim Indigenous knowledge, songs, and documents from archival collections. We also explore questions of data sovereignty, digital sovereignty, and intellectual property rights. A...
s02e08: Ascención Solórzano and the Mutsun Dictionary 09.10.2023 33:50
Episode 8 features an interview with Marion Martinez and her daughter, Veronica, both of whom are members of the Amah Mutsun Tribal Band. They will be speaking about Marion’s great grandmother, Ascencion Solorsano de Cervantes, and mother, Martha Herrerra. Ascencion, who passed away in 1930, was the last fluent Mutsun speaker and one of the Amah Mutsun Tribal Band’s beloved ancestors. In 1929, Asc...
s02e07: Federal Recognition Discussion 11.09.2023 1:37:47
Episode 7 [1:37:47] explores the complexities of what is known as Federal Recognition, and the Federal Recognition Process, which relate to Indigenous sovereignty and self-determination. This is an extremely complex topic, especially in relation to Native Californian Tribes. Our guests, Dr. Olivia Chilcote (a member of the San Luis Rey Band of Mission Indians), and Dr. Vanessa Esquivido (an enroll...
s02e06: "This Work Has to be Done" (NAGPRA p.III) 17.07.2023 58:31
The final part in this 3-episode series continues our focus on the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act (NAGPRA), where we focus on CalNAGPRA, California’s effort to strengthen NAGPRA, as well as other steps taken to improve and refine this difficult process. But we will also hear about resistance to following through on the promises of NAGPRA as well, and hear a few longer perso...
s02e05: "Bury Them with Dignity" (NAGPRA p. II) 13.06.2023 42:47
Part 2 in this 3-episode series continues our broad focus on the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act (NAGPRA). As always, thank you to the guests who gave their time and shared their stories. This episode includes significant discussion of how ancestral remains, funerary objects, sacred items, and objects of cultural patrimony have been collected in the past, continue to be dist...
s02e04: "You Have Disturbed Our Ancestors" (NAGPRA p.I) 17.05.2023 41:00
Part 1 in this 3-episode series focuses on the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act (NAGPRA). As always, thank you to the guests who gave their time and shared their stories. This episode includes significant discussion of how ancestral remains, funerary objects, sacred items, and objects of cultural patrimony have been collected in the past, continue to be disturbed in the prese...
s02e03: The Legacy of Kroeber, Ishi, & UC Berkeley 24.03.2023 1:11:19
Episode 3 continues and deepens our critique of academia's extractive and complex relationship with Native California by examining the history of one of California’s most renowned and celebrated anthropologists, Alfred L. Kroeber. Kroeber helped establish the school of Anthropology at UC Berkeley, and, up until 2021, his name adorned UC Berkeley’s Kroeber Hall. This episode examines Kroeber &...
s02e02: Salvage Anthropology "A Nasty Business" 22.02.2023 40:59
Episode 2 follows the introductory episode with a deeper dive into Salvage Anthropology and its origins. Academic study of Indigenous cultures in California trace back to scholars such as Franz Boas and Aleš Hrdlička. They were both proponents of what was called ‘Salvage Anthropology’ - the belief that Indigenous communities were dying and making way for modern society. These beliefs were built up...
s02e01: Illicit Acquisitions (Season Two Overview) 17.01.2023 37:03
There is a long legacy of extractive and exploitative relationships in academic study of Indigenous California, seen clearly in the origins of the fields of anthropology, ethnography, & archaeology. These unethical relationships have resulted in colonial collections of Indigenous ancestral remains, funerary objects, songs and ceremonies, and Indigenous knowledge and wisdom, much which still ha...
Season 2 Release Date: January 17th, 2023 10.01.2023 0:36
Episode 1 will provide an overview of the themes we’ll cover in Season 2. We’re excited to share what we’ve been learning about anthropology, museum collections, archeology, intellectual property, rematriation, and more. You’ll hear about extractive colonial collections from Native Californians who are Challenging Colonialism in California and beyond.
Trailer: Challenging Colonialism Season 2 27.12.2022 3:21
Challenging Colonialism returns with Season 2 in January 2023. Stay tuned for the release date. This preview includes the voices of: Dr. Brittani Orona (Hupa, Hoopa Valley Tribe) Steven Pratt (Amah Mutsun) Annie Danis Corrina Gould (Lisjan Ohlone) Dr. Cutcha Risling Baldy (Hupa, Yurok, Karuk) Gregg Castro (t’rowt’raahl Salinan/Rusein-Ramaytush Ohlone) Alexii Sigona (Amah Mutsun) Kanyon Sayers-Rood...
s01 Bonus: Take Action to Protect Juristac 24.08.2022 9:57
Amah Mutsun Tribal Band member Carolyn Rodriguez and Green Foothills Policy and Advocacy Director Alice Kaufman speak about the urgent need to protect Juristac--and how you can contribute. Challenging Colonialism is produced by myself, Daniel Stonebloom & Martin Rizzo-Martinez. For this episode, Daniel conducted both interviews as well as the audio engineering and editing. All music by G. Gonz...
s01e05 Nichelle Garcia on Run4Salmon 15.08.2022 37:43
Nichelle Garcia (Winnemem Wintu) talks about the Run 4 Salmon, the 2022 run, its goals and its history. She also discussed inter-tribal solidarity in water and salmon protection, as well as the curriculum and mini-lessons she's contributed to and taught in schools to raise awareness of what's at stake. Challenging Colonialism is produced by Daniel Stonebloom & Martin Rizzo-Martinez. This inter...
Supplement to s01e01: Telling and Teaching the Truth of the California Missions, part 2 06.06.2022 40:13
This recording is from the second half of a panel entitled “Telling the Truth of the California Missions,” which was part of the Telling and Teaching the Truth of the California Missions event, held on August 27, 2021, preceding the Mission Bell removal. Moderator Merri Lopez- Keifer (San Luis Rey Band of Mission Indians) introduced the speakers. She is Senior Advisor to the Tribal Council San Lui...
s01e04 Indian Boarding Schools: Colonialism Through Education 09.05.2022 1:01:30
Beginning in the 1880s, Indian Boarding Schools across the country operated with the stated goal to “kill the Indian and save the man.” These institutions were key to U.S. policies that aimed to assimilate native children by removing ties to their own cultures. This episode examines the history of the Boarding Schools that impacted thousands of Indigenous Californian children, specifically focusin...
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