Nathan Fradley and Jordan Vaka

Challenge the Standard in Financial Advice

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Welcome to the Challenge the Standard podcast - a podcast for financial advisers, by financial advisers. Your hosts, Nathan Fradley and Jordan Vaka, will examine the biases, fixed thinking and status quo in advice. In every episode, we'll dive deep into the world of financial advice, questioning the norms, sparking new ideas and exploring how we could do things better. Our goal is to elevate our professional practices and 'uphold and promote the standards of our profession. So, whether you're a seasoned adviser or a bright new entrant to the Australian market (and beyond), this is where we cha...

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Nathan Fradley and Jordan Vaka

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Jul 9, 2026

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Episodes

S8E10 SMSFs in 2026 09.07.2026

Do you wind up more SMSFs that you open? So does everyone else apparently, so who is opening SMSFs then?  In this episode Jordan and Nathan open SMSF discussions with little regard for recourse, discussing The CSLR Treasury paper and it's comment on SMSF inclusion The recent changes to residential LRBAs  Accountant exemptions Working with vulnerable clients who have SMSF Served piping hot like a p...

S8E9 ASIC REP 833 02.07.2026

Hot new ASIC report dropped this week and just like the classic, finger-on-the-pulse tastemakers they are, Nathan and Jordan are here to unpack it.  Donning their best Meldrum-style hats, Nathan and Jordan dive into REP 833, which examines ASIC's concerns with the way platform trustees just don't seem ready to get their act together.  There's a fair bit of ground covered: What ASIC's concerns seem...

S8E8 - Q&A #3 (Careers and Ethical Dilemmas) 25.06.2026

Take a short flight, with a hot cup of tea (but bring your own teabag) for this episode, where Jordan and Nathan answer some listener questions. They discuss How they got a break into the profession Their advice for new entrants on how to break into the profession Remuneration for junior advisers, and whether profit share is common Whether a power of attorney can/should appoint a beneficiary nomin...

S8E7 Your Capacity 18.06.2026

How much work can you reasonably get done? How many SOAs per week, per quarter, per 40 week year is youre realistic capacity? Or is that approach old fashioned, and missing so much of the nuance in your capacity to meet your goals, in the short term but in the long term? Given it's the end of financial year, Jordan and Nathan reflect on  The difference between motivation and consistency The factor...

S8E6 IPOhhhhhhs... 11.06.2026

Well, isn't this all very exciting?! Some big new listings hitting the market and it's such fun watching everybody lose. their. goddamned. minds.  Rules no longer need apply which, in the world of index investing, is kind of a big deal.  So, this week, Nathan and Jordan try (honestly, we really tried) to focus on the client-facing-reality of all the noise your clients are hearing about these big f...

S8E5 Aged Care II: Retention Boogaloo 04.06.2026

We've talked about Aged Care before, but things have changed. Lots of things! There are new rules about how fees are calculated, applied and, most importantly for any government agency, renamed. (Who knew 'hotelling' was a word...look it up though) Nathan's been doing some even more interesting work in this valuable, important space - and written many a CPD piece on it.  And even Jordan's getting...

S8E4 Fine, We'll Do One On The Budget 28.05.2026

Apparently the Federal Government dropped some sort of Budget thingamajig the other day. It's got many people in a lather with the injustice of it all.  Dragged into the discussion with their characteristic reluctance to share an uninformed opinion, Nathan and Jordan thought an episode on this epoch-ending disaster* (going by the reaction of some of the panic merchants out there) would be a good i...

S8E3 Paraplanning 21.05.2026

Say it with us... paraplanning . Paraplanning.  Paraplanning. Para - planning. What is it, why is it important, who's doing it and how are they doing it? This week's episode - likely the first of a series we'll return to - is all about the noble art of paraplanning. Because Jordan and Nathan know that hitting the kind of collaborative alignment that can occur between a financial adviser and parapl...

S8E2 CSLR Consultation 12.05.2026

We get serious this week. No guest. No banter about dentists or Jordan's latest grievance with... well, you know.  Just Nathan and Jordan, a Treasury consultation paper, and a genuine call to action for every financial adviser, business owner, PY, associate, paraplanner etc that'll listen.   The Compensation Scheme of Last Resort is broken. Not broken in a subtle, nuanced, needs-a-closer-look kind...

S8E1 Tax Planning with Martin McGrath 07.05.2026

We're proud of all our episodes, but the level of useful gold in this one is incredible.  Joined by regular guest, Martin McGrath, who seems to enjoy ganging up on Jordan as he attempts to corral the conversation into some sort of structure, they explore the world of tax planning for financial advisers.  What is it Why do it Is it really our job How to do it How to do it (badly) And so much in bet...

S7E20 The Next Stage with James D'Apice 30.04.2026

It's hard to believe that this show has been going long enough to start building traditions, but this is absolutely one of our favourites - our annual check-in with full-time podcaster, part-time lawyer James D'Apice.  James was good enough to join us early on in his Gravamen journey, then come back last year to talk about how he's finding the growth path in his second year of operations.  Now, in...

S7E19 ID, Advising Non-Couples, Scoping and Insurance Bonds 23.04.2026

Following a run of outstanding and informative guests, this week we return to our normal programming - Jordan and Nathan mouthing off about a stack of different things - but this time prompted by listener questions! In this week's episode, they cover: The best U2 Album The conflicts that can arise when advising people who's  romantic life is over, but have chosen to continue their shared life.  Ad...

S7E18 Human Side of Advice with Brendan Frazier 16.04.2026

In this episode Jordan and Nathan are joined by none other than Brendan Frazier, most well known as host of The Human Side of Money Podcast.  The boys discuss How to just get started, and not be a perfectionist The power of questions, but why the words themselves are not the most important aspect in a client engagement. How leaning into the Human side creates a moat in a world of AI (yes of course...

S7E17 Special Disability Trusts with Kathy Havers 09.04.2026

Our recent episode on collaborating with other advisers - 'Playing Well With Others' - is one we're really proud of. And in that episode, Nathan and Jordan both mention the eye-opening experience of working with one specific financial adviser in a deeply specialist area.  Well, this week, that adviser - Kathy Havers of Viridian Advisory - is good enough to come on and introduce us and our listener...

S7E16 Scaling Advice 02.04.2026

Is it possible to scale good, quality, personalised financial advice? If it can be done - then how can we do it?  Can we scale the advice without scaling the discovery ? How can we find out enough about somebody to know what advice they don't need - and how do we have to charge for that work?  How can you, as a professional adviser, exercise and evidence your professional judgment about what a cli...

S7E15 Collaborative Estates with Zinta Harris 26.03.2026

Financial advisers - you've spent your entire working relationship with your clients helping them build their wealth.  How prepared are you to help them make sure it passes to the next generation/s, without triggering the next War of the Roses? In this week's episode, Jordan and Nathan explore one of the alternatives to the 'traditional' view of estate planning and disputes; 'interdisciplinary col...

S7E14 Discovery 19.03.2026

Quick question for you - is the 'old' way of doing fact finding enough in the current financial advice profession? If it is, great - let us know! But if you don't think it is, if you think that the bar has been lifted, over and over and over again, then this episode might be for you! In this weeks meander Jordan and Nathan start to tackle the battle of gathering and evidencing a clients situation...

S7E13 Playing Well With Others 12.03.2026

Financial advice is a fairly solitary pursuit - the burden sits heavy on our individual shoulders.  But, does it necessarily need to be so? In this week's episode, Nathan and Jordan explore how advisers can, and are, work collaboratively to help meet our clients best interests.  From sharing ideas, discussing cases and referring to specialists within the profession, the opportunity to find the bes...

S7E12 QAR Revisited 05.03.2026

Remember QAR? The noise, the fury, the outrage? The column inches, breath and spittle diverted into 'discussing' the Quality of Advice Review? Would it surprise you to be reminded that the final report dropped way back in February 2023 - 3 years prior to this week's episode?  And, when you look around and see what a big difference it's made (...), isn't it quite astonishing? This week, prompted by...

S7E11 Ethics of Engagement 26.02.2026

We all know what bad engagement looks like. The shiftiness in the face of the truth, the big sales pitch, over-promises and, sadly, inevitable pain when the truth comes to light.  And we know what good engagement looks like - if I asked you, you could name a handful of advisers doing great work in engaging with the public.  But, what about that space in between?  How big is the gap between good an...

S7E10 AI in Advice with Stuart from Claras.ai 19.02.2026

This week, we're joined by Stuart Riddle, of Claras.ai - one of the AI offerings in the financial advice market.  Nathan and Jordan start by asking him about the state of AI in financial advice, and expand into: The questions advisers should be asking about AI The questions licensees are asking about AI How AI can help advisers be more efficient, effective and balanced The specific workflows and i...

S7E9 Implementation 12.02.2026

This week, Nathan and Jordan try to answer the question - how involved should you, as an adviser, be involved in implementing your advice? Well, they don't try all that hard, but they have a shot at it.  Starting at fairly opposite ends of the spectrum, they try to discuss: Working out who's job it is to get the forms signed If it's not your job, who's is it? How involved should you still be, even...

S7E8 Gettin' Paid 05.02.2026

Managing to keep the meandering at the start of the ep to a - wide ranging and flower-heavy - minimum, Nathan and Jordan quickly get on task today to discuss getting paid.  From choosing how to structure the timing of when you get paid for your work as a financial adviser, to the methods you offer clients, to handling that blessedly rare occasion of a client stiffing you on a bill, they try to exp...

S7E7 Ethics of Age Pension Advice 29.01.2026

As a financial adviser, you no doubt know some stuff about the Age Pension. The Income Test. The Assets Test. Thresholds, limits, reduction factors - a fair bit of stuff.  But how do you tackle some of the ethical considerations? How do you balance client best interests with client intentions - especially when some of those intentions can be a bit dicey? In this week's episode, we explore this fun...

S7E6 Episode 100: POWER! 22.01.2026

100 episodes! 100 episodes of these two goons meandering around topics that affect, interest and bewilder financial advisers in Australia.  To celebrate this milestone, Nathan and Jordan have decided to meander around the topic of 'power' in financial advice.  Who has it, who doesn't, why they do (and don't), how they can exercise it and how we can increase it.  It is, like most of our oddly popul...

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