Wisconsin State Journal
Center Stage, with Milfred and Hands
They're the "Click and Clack" of Wisconsin politics. Scott Milfred , editorial page editor for the Wisconsin State Journal, and Phil Hands , the newspaper's political cartoonist, analyze the most important issues and debates from the Badger State with political independence and a sense of humor. Instead of tedious talking points from the left and the right, "Center Stage" broadcasts from the sensible center with audio clips from the Wisconsin Capitol, from State Journal editorial board meetings, and from political events across the state.
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Jun 22, 2026
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Who’s Joel Brennan? He might be Wisconsin’s next governor 22.06.2026 53:41
Milfred and Hands talk with Joel Brennan, one of the least known Democratic candidates for governor with the most executive experience. Brennan has been far back in the polls and didn’t do well in the straw poll at the recent Democratic Party convention. Yet he’s raising a lot of money and starting to tout his impressive resume in TV ads and at campaign stops across the state. Brennan...
Francesca Hong wants to 'get sh-t done' as Wisconsin governor 04.06.2026 48:55
Milfred and Hands talk with Democratic candidate for governor Francesca Hong about raising the minimum wage, instituting a wealth tax and smoking cigars with Republicans. Hong surprised many people by leading early polls for the Democratic nomination among a crowded field of candidates. But can a democratic socialist who represents the ultra-progressive Isthmus and East Side of Madison appeal...
David Crowley says Republicans fear him most for Wisconsin governor 26.05.2026 48:45
Milfred and Hands talk to David Crowley about his bid for Wisconsin governor, which he says the GOP fears because of his broader appeal. He won reelection as Milwaukee County executive with 85% of the vote. But only 16% of voters in the Madison region know who he is, according to the Marquette Law School poll. That could change soon, because Crowley led Democrats in fundraising the last time...
Kelda Roys wants to 'build what comes next' in Wisconsin 26.04.2026 44:07
Milfred and Hands talk with state Sen. Kelda Roys, D-Madison, about her bid for governor. Roys says she's the most experienced leader with results who best measures up against presumptive Republican nominee U.S. Rep. Tom Tiffany, R-Minoqua. "I'm the candidate who can actually say, 'Here's what I've done,' not just 'Here are my ideas that I've never been able to accomplish.'" She touts her endorsem...
Wisconsin's connection to Oscar-winning 'One Battle After Another' 07.04.2026 42:43
Milfred and Hands talk politics and film with Wisconsin native Michael Bauman, the cinematographer for "One Battle After Another," which won six Oscars last month. Bauman, who grew up about 60 miles northeast of Madison in the Fond du Lac County village of Brandon, was nominated for an Oscar and won a BAFTA Award for best cinematography. He talks about the blockbuster movie and its implications fo...
Will data centers devour Wisconsin's climate goal? 11.02.2026 9:02
Milfred and Hands assess the flurry of data centers being proposed across Wisconsin in communities such as Mount Pleasant , Beaver Dam, Janesville, Grant County and, until recently, DeForest . The billion-dollar projects are needed to support our phones, computers, electronic devices and artificial intelligence. But they also will consume, in many cases, more energy than th...
Wisconsin political predictions for 2026 31.12.2025 7:25
Milfred and Hands play Nostradamus, with apologies to Conan O'Brien, predicting who will win the races for Wisconsin governor, state Supreme Court, Trump's affections and the Big Ten conference in 2026. Milfred sees a future with lots of candidates lining up to run for Madison mayor. Hands makes an easy call about the direction of Madison's property taxes.
Which of these 2026 predictions will look smartest 12 months from now? 31.12.2025 51:20
This week, we're sharing something a bit different: Scott Milfred joins Richard Kyte and Scott Rada on "The Ethical Life," Lee Enterprises' podcast exploring ethical questions in contemporary life. Instead of the usual Center Stage format, you'll hear Milfred as a guest in a three-way conversation about predictions, accountability and what the year ahead might bring. The discussion ranges across p...
Sean Duffy vs. Elon Musk for control of NASA 12.11.2025 4:16
Milfred and Hands explore the "Game of Thrones" conflict between Sean Duffy, the Trump administration official acting as head of NASA, and Elon Musk, the former billionaire buddy of President Donald Trump who leads SpaceX and Tesla, both of which Duffy now regulates as the secretary of Transportation. Musk insulted Duffy, calling him Sean "Dummy" and making fun of his North Woods lumberjacking ski...
Who will be Wisconsin's next governor? 11.09.2025 3:22
Milfred and Hands size up the candidates for Wisconsin's top job, including those who have declared bids and others who are likely to follow. Our political podcasters agree that one Democrat and one Republican are best positioned for success in party primaries, now that incumbent Gov. Tony Evers has announced he won't seek a third term. So much can happen between now and November 2026, and key to...
Madison's 20 mph speed limit ... is ... too ... slow 07.08.2025 3:53
Milfred and Hands test drive Madison's "20 is Plenty" edict that feels cementy when you actually try to drive that slow -- not that many if any people ever will for very far. Sure, driving so slow in theory makes it easier for a car to stop. But "slow speeders" aren't the problem. Real speeders are. And that requires more traffic enforcement, not feel-good laws pretending motorists will drive slow...
Ron Johnson's big, beautiful 'no' 19.06.2025 4:08
Milfred and Hands tout U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson's resistance to the House-passed "big, beautiful bill" that would further burden our children and grandchildren with debt. But he's only half right in focusing on spending while mostly ignoring the cost of tax cuts.
What's the holdup on legal weed in Wisconsin? 18.05.2025 3:14
Milfred and Hands get the bottom of Wisconsin's long-overdue legalization of medical marijuana and the stubborn Republican resistance to pot for recreational use -- even though GOP President Donald Trump is for it.
Wisconsin voters shred Elon Musk's fake cheese 06.04.2025 3:04
Milfred and Hands dissect Elon Musk’s impact on the Wisconsin Supreme Court race last week and look ahead to next year’s midterm elections in the swing state and beyond. President Donald Trump's billionaire buddy spent more than $20 million trying to elect Judge Brad Schimel to the Badger State's top court. Musk and Schimel failed in a blowout to Justice-elect Susan Crawford, who won b...
Run, Tony, Run? Or done? 23.03.2025 25:26
Milfred and Hands analyze Gov. Tony Evers' prospects for a third term, should he decide to run for governor again next year. Only one governor in state history -- Tommy Thompson -- has served a third (and part of a fourth) term. Milfred thinks Evers could be well-positioned as the antithesis to President Donald Trump. Hands isn't so sure, suggesting the left is hungry for new faces and younger blo...
What's behind Derrick Van Orden's impeachment ploy? 22.02.2025 15:44
Milfred and Hands impugn U.S. Rep. Derrick Van Orden's impeachment ploy. The Prairie du Chien Republican wants to throw a federal judge out of office for daring to stall one of President Donald Trump's priorities in court. The New York judge paused the Trump administration's attempt to scour the Treasury Department's payment system, which houses the Social Security and bank account numbers for mil...
Ron Johnson vs. Donald Trump on tariffs 08.02.2025 22:45
U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Oshkosh, calls tariffs a tax. President Donald Trump says they'll make Americans rich and powerful. It's a tale of two tariffs. Milfred and Hands break down the (so far) polite fray on trade between Wisconsin's senior senator and his party's president who backed off -- for at least 30 days -- on imposing 25% tariffs on trading partners and neighbors Canada and Mexico.
Jay Rothman on UW funding, free speech, football money and 'Marxist maniacs' 07.12.2024 31:46
Milfred and Hands play clips from the Wisconsin State Journal editorial board's meeting last week with Jay Rothman, the "change agent" president of the Universities of Wisconsin. Rothman touts his $855 billion request for increased funding from the Legislature. In many ways, his business-like pitch should resonate with the GOP. Milfred asks about President-elect Donald Trump slamming "Marxist mani...
Wisconsin is still the deep purple state 09.11.2024 35:08
Milfred and Hands analyze Donald Trump's comeback win for the White House and why Wisconsin voters also chose progressive U.S. Sen. Tammy Baldwin, D-Madison, who in many ways is his polar opposite. Our political podcasters try to temper lefty Madison's loss by talking up checks and balances as well as states' rights. Milfred loves Trump's flip-flop on electric cars, now that Trump's bromance with...
Tammy Baldwin seeks the Wisconsin State Journal's endorsement 17.10.2024 30:23
Milfred and Hands unpack the Wisconsin State Journal's endorsement meeting with U.S. Sen. Tammy Baldwin, D-Madison, who is being challenged by her seat in the Nov. 5 election by Republican businessman Eric Hovde. The race in this closely watched swing state could decide control of the Senate. Baldwin touts the bill she is pushing with Republican vice presidential nominee JD Vance to demonstrate he...
Eric Hovde seeks the Wisconsin State Journal's endorsement 12.10.2024 43:41
Milfred and Hands play audio clips from and comment on the Wisconsin State Journal editorial board's endorsement meeting with U.S. Senate candidate Eric Hovde.
Why do so many farmers back Trump? 22.09.2024 50:42
Milfred and Hands interview Brian Reisinger, the Sauk County author of "Land Rich, Cash Poor," who worked for big-name Republicans such as Gov. Scott Walker and U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson. He offers a clear-minded assessment of rural economics, politics and culture, based on his own family's challenges.
Tim Walz vs. JD Vance in Wisconsin: Who won? 10.08.2024 30:06
Milfred and Hands assess the Middle America cred of both presidential candidates's salty surrogates. Both VP picks visited Eau Claire, talking guns, drugs, inflation, freedom and what's really weird. Our political podcasters play clips and comment each candidate's points and provocations. Wisconsin is giong to be seeing a lot more of these two, who play better here in many ways than either of thei...
Kamala Harris woos Wisconsin. Will it work? 28.07.2024 22:08
Milfred and Hands play clips from and analyze Vice President Kamala Harris' speech last week in West Allis. They also assess her chances of winning Wisconsin in November, now that she's the Democrats' presumptive nominee. Harris is a far better campaigner than Joe Biden had been in recent months, bringing some needed energy to the ticket. Yet she faces skepticism from many Midwestern voters.
Madison's new school leader: 'Zero tolerance isn't zero care' 23.06.2024 27:34
Milfred and Hands play audio clips from the Wisconsin State Journal editorial board's meeting with Madison's new school superintendent, Joe Gothard. The Madison native, former La Follette coach and principal who left the Capitol City for Minnesota and ran the bigger St. Paul, Minnesota, school district. Now he's back for the top job here. Gothard talks about prioritizing all-day 4K, making Madison...
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