Center for Evaluation and Education Policy
CEEPing Up with Education
CEEPing Up with Education is a semi-regular podcast that focuses on current topics in the education landscape, including education policy and issues in education. Produced by the Center for Evaluation and Education Policy at Indiana University, this podcast is for anyone interested in the state of education in the United States and across the globe.
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Jul 9, 2026
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Episodes
What is the Optimal Number of Students in a School District: An Indiana Story 09.07.2026 31:01
Our guests, Dr. Michele Moore and Steffi Elizabeth Thomas, discuss the results of their recent study What is the Optimal Number of Students in a School District in Indiana? An Economies of Scale in School Consolidation Discussion . Should we be asking what's too big in terms of school district size? Questions or comments? Contact us at soeceep@iu.edu Host: Kristin Schumacher Editor and Produce...
Can You Measure Anything? According to Dr. Nicole Alioto, You Can. 10.06.2026 32:57
CEEPing Up with Education host, Kristin Schumacher, interviews Dr. Nicole Alioto about her book, You Can Measure Anything: An Educator's Guide to Measuring What is Hard to Define . They discuss how to evaluate the seemingly difficult to measure goals of schools, and why that matters. Find Dr. Alioto at nicolealioto.com or on linkedin . She is also on Instagram @measureanything. Contact the Cen...
NAMM Advocates for Arts Funding with John Mlynczak 02.06.2026 38:26
John Mlynczak, President and CEO of the National Association of Music Merchants, speaks with host Kristin Schumacher about NAMM's efforts to preserve and promote music education. The conversation includes topics such as tariffs, AI, and the joy of making and performing music. Check out NAMM's good work at: https://www.namm.org/about Editor and Producer: Joe Heisler Theme Music: Ben Fouch H...
The Kids Who Aren't Okay - An Interview with Dr. Ross W. Greene 24.02.2026 35:49
Host Kristin Schumacher interviews Dr. Ross W. Greene about his new book - T he Kids Who Aren't Okay: The Urgent Case for Reimagining Support, Belonging, and Hope in Schools . Dr. Greene is a clinical child psychologist and the author of influential books such as Lost at School and The Explosive Child . He served on the faculty at Harvard Medical School for over 20 years, and is the founding d...
Changes in Indiana Public and Charter School Student Enrollment 28.05.2025 40:50
Our host, Kristin Schumacher, speaks with guests Dr. Michele Moore and Moaaz Hamid regarding their recent report about Indiana public and charter school student enrollment trends. This episode includes more than just the details of the report; it's also a discussion about declining birth rates, school closures, and the impact of the school choice movement. The report is part of a national tren...
Episode 6: The Trouble with Indiana Senate Bill 202 with David Nalbone 13.12.2024 13:27
Our host, Kristin Schumacher, speaks with Purdue Northwest professor David Nalbone about some of the potential consequences of and concerns surrounding Indiana Senate Bill 202. Is this bill the best way to improve the climate on college campuses, or is it an example unnecessary government intervention? Read more about both sides of the issues surrounding Indiana’s SB 202 in this CEEP polic...
Episode 5: The Case for Indiana Senate Bill 202 with Spencer Deery 13.12.2024 28:53
Our host, Kristin Schumacher, speaks with Indiana State Senator Spencer Deery, the author of Senate Bill 202, which impacts public institutions of higher learning. Senator Deery explains how this bill may foster a sense of belonging on college campuses by promoting intellectual diversity and holding instructors accountable for maintaining an atmosphere of free inquiry and expression in their class...
Episode 4: Navigating Policy Controversies with Dr. Quentin Wheeler-Bell 23.10.2024 40:08
This is the fourth episode of the podcast brought to listeners by the Center for Evaluation and Education Policy at Indiana University Bloomington. Our host, Kristin Schumacher, speaks with IU Philosophy of Education professor Dr. Quentin Wheeler-Bell about navigating controversial policies, including Indiana's Senate Bill 202, the Red Scare, and DEI initiatives. This episode was made by: Host:...
Episode 3: Teacher Pay in Indiana with Kristie LeBeau 15.08.2024 31:30
This is the third episode of the podcast brought to listeners by the Center for Evaluation and Education Policy at Indiana University Bloomington. Our host, Kristin Schumacher, speaks with guest Kristie LeBeau about Indiana’s new teacher pay policy which raises minimum salaries to $40,000. You can read more about Dr. LeBeau's research in CEEP's latest policy brief: https://education.indian...
Episode 2: Thoughts about Indiana’s “Eyes on Education” initiative 30.05.2024 28:15
This is the second episode of the podcast brought to listeners by the Center for Evaluation and Education Policy at Indiana University Bloomington. Our host, Kristin Schumacher, speaks with guests and fellow PhD students, Kathy Craig and Michael Bienz about Indiana’s “Eyes on Education” dashboard. “Eyes on Education” allows parents, students, and other interested individuals to post what they deem...
Episode 1: The Implications of School Choice with Yusuf Canbolat 27.03.2024 20:18
This is the first episode of the podcast brought to listeners by the Center for Evaluation and Education Policy at Indiana University Bloomington. Our guest, Yusuf Canbolat, is a recent graduate of the History, Philosophy, and Policy PhD program at Indiana University. Yusuf talks with host Kristin Schumacher about one of the papers he wrote for his dissertation, which centers around the implicatio...
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