Natalia Terfa, Emmy Kegler

Cafeteria Christian

Religion EN ↓ 374 episodes

Cafeteria Christian started as a place for people who love Jesus but are so over the version of Christianity that forgets love, justice, and curiosity. Hosted by Pastor Natalia Terfa and Pastor Emmy Kegler, the show is a mix of faith conversations, cultural commentary, and the beautiful, complicated mess of trying to follow Jesus in the real world. From biblical deep dives to big feelings about the world, Emmy and Natalia create a space where honesty and hope coexist. Together, we're reclaiming the term "Cafeteria Christian" — because when it comes to faith, you really can take what you like a...

Author

Natalia Terfa, Emmy Kegler

Category

Religion

Podcast website

www.cafeteriachristian.club

Latest episode

Jun 29, 2026

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Episodes

#248 Calling Out or Calling In w/ Jesse Ross 15.11.2023

Natalia welcomes back Mr Jesse Ross to talk about those moments when conversations turn offensive and what to say when we don't know what to say, especially as we head into the holiday season where gatherings can be fraught.  Links:  www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian www.mrjesseross.com  

#247 Ordinary Blessings for the Christmas Season w/ Meta Herrick Carlson 06.11.2023

Emmy and Natalia welcome back Meta to talk about her new book, to read some blessings and tell stories, and laugh together around this weird and wonderful and sometimes not so wonderful time of year.   Links:  Patreon - www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian Hiyam: www.tabashsouvenirs.com Meta's website: www.metaherrickcarlson.com Eye on the Magi: https://www.amazon.com/Eye-Magi-Justin-Lind-Ayres/dp/B...

#246 Mountaintops & Mission Trips 30.10.2023

Emmy and Natalia talk about God experiences, when they happen, how they happen, and what we are supposed to do with them - especially if they happened a long time ago, in a stage of faith we've left behind, or what we do if we haven't ever had one at all. Digressions include the  Eras Tour, Teens Encounter Christ, and jello salad.   Support the show at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian   Links...

#245 Question & Response - Israel / Palestine Edition 23.10.2023

Emmy and Natalia respond to a few listener questions about the violence and suffering in Israel and Palestine, and what our role as people of faith is in times when things feel scary and hopeless.  Support the show at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian   Links:  "The Children Are Ours" - https://camillehernandez.substack.com/p/the-children-are-ours   Talmud Sanhedrin 39b - https://www.sefaria.o...

#244 No Single Stories w/ Meta Herrick Carlson and Hiyam Tabash 16.10.2023

Emmy and Natalia try to process the news from this week, as violence and terror in Israel and Palestine are front and center for most of us. We decided to share a conversation our dear friend and colleague and friend of the pod Meta Herrick Carlson had earlier this year with a woman we met and became friends with - Hiyam Tabash. We hope you'll listen, and we hope you'll do some learning through tr...

#243 The Witchy Season 09.10.2023

Emmy and Natalia unpack some of the baggage around Halloween and where it comes from and why it matters to simply be aware of the ways we celebrate (and don't celebrate) this season.  Suppport the show at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian   Links:  Spooky season - mpr: https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2017/10/24/559502238/this-halloween-what-does-it-mean-to-call-something-spooky   Micha...

#242 Taylor Swift and the Religious Instinct 02.10.2023

Natalia welcomes back Whitney Logan to talk about psychotherapy and Jungian analytics as they relate to Taylor Swift and the Eras tour and why collective transcendent experiences matter more than ever.  Links:  Whitney's last CC episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cc-group-therapy-with-whitney-logan/id1422007489?i=1000577663827   Whitney's podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/...

#241 An Evolving Faith with Sarah Bessey 25.09.2023

Natalia and Emmy welcome the lovely Sarah Bessey to talk about faith and writing and community and gathering and why it all matters.  Cafeteria Christian Support through Patreon: www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian Sarah Bessey Links: Field Notes: https://sarahbessey.substack.com/   Essay: Someone Else's Conversion: https://sarahbessey.substack.com/p/someone-elses-deconversion-dbf Evolving Faith: h...

#240 Faith is messy because people are messy 18.09.2023

Emmy and Natalia tackle a set of lectionary texts that have been misused and misunderstood long enough. How can we read an ancient text in a new age?  Donate: www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian  

#239 Tiny Things and Holy Ground 11.09.2023

Natalia welcomes back Ellie Roscher to talk about how our habits and tiny things will change the world, if we just notice them. Donate: www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian Embodied Path Part 1 : https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-embodied-path-w-ellie-roscher-pt-1/id1422007489?i=1000586974702   Part 2: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-embodied-path-with-ellie-roscher-part-2-embodied...

#238 Heaven and Hell 04.09.2023

Natalia and Emmy tackle the theology of heaven and hell from a variety of angles and their own unique perspectives and beliefs. CW: Some discussion of sexual assualt. If that is something that you do not want to listen to for any reason, it happens in the discussion of Judith, around 24 minute mark for about two minutes. Patreon:  www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian   Join the conversation: faceboo...

#237 If All the World's a Stage, Are We All Performing? 28.08.2023

Emmy and Natalia tackle a grab bag of topics that are in the cultural zeitgeist and what they have to do with Jesus, faith, and life, and also why they all lead back to the idea that maybe we're just performing and not really living. Patreon:  www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian   Anne Helen Peterson's article on BamaRushTok: https://annehelen.substack.com/p/culture-study-meets-bama-rushtok

#236 Transition and Ritual 21.08.2023

Emmy and Natalia are back together and thinking about ritual and what makes one and why we should have some more!  Links: Patreon:  www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian   Nora's shop: https://shop.feelingsand.co/products/give-it-a-rest-vinyl-mirror-sticker

#235 Community Response and Allyship w/ Jesse Ross 14.08.2023

Jesse and Natalia talk about Montgomery and why it offered us a bit of hope, and what it has to do with the church and how we respond to each other. Patreon:  www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian

#234 Why Church Bonus Episode 07.08.2023

Join Rev. Miriam Samuelson Roberts and Rev. Andrea Roske-Metcalfe for a question and answer segment. If you missed their dynamite Why Church? episode, go back and listen! Support the show at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian  

#233 Why Church Pt 3 with Colleen Lindstrom, Megan Torgerson, and Emmy Kegler 31.07.2023

On our final episode of Why Church? we will hear from Colleen Lindstrom and Rev. Megan Torgerson. Our host Emmy Kegler introduces each segment and will offer her own reflection this week. Settle in and breathe deep.  Support the podcast at  http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian  

#232 Why Church? Part 3 with Andrea Roske-Metcalfe, Miriam Samuelson Roberts, and Natalia Terfa 24.07.2023

On our third offering of Why Church? we will hear from Rev. Andrea Roske-Metcalfe and Rev. Miriam Samuelson Roberts. Our host Natalia Terfa introduces each segment and will offer her own reflection this week. Settle in for two compelling visions of a church becoming. Support the podcast at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian  

#231 Why Church? Part 2 with Dr. Michael Chan and Ellie Roscher 17.07.2023

On our second installment of Why Church? we will hear from Dr. Michael Chan and Ellie Roscher. Our host Natalia Terfa introduces each installment. Settle in for two compelling visions of a church becoming. Support the podcast at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian  

#230 Why Church? Part One with Meta, Jesse, and Matthew 10.07.2023

On our first installment of Why Church? we will hear from Meta Herrick Carlson, Jesse Ross, and Matthew Ian Fleming. Our host Emmy Kegler introduces each installment. You won't want to miss a beat. Support the podcast at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian  

#229 Why Church Matters Introduction 05.07.2023

Emmy and Natalia talk about the upcoming July series and why we think it's important to talk about church and what it is and what it means and why/if it still matters.    Join the discussion: www.facebook.com/groups/cafeteriachristian   Support the pod: http://Patreon.com/cafeteriachristian  

#228 All Are Welcome? 27.06.2023

Emmy and Natalia are back together just in time to wrap up Pride month with an epic Emmy rant about the phrase "all are welcome" and why it is never true and why maybe we should stop saying it altogether.  Links: Reconciling Works: https://www.reconcilingworks.org/ Support the pod: http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian    

#227 Being the Mom of a Scary Trans Kid, with Jamie Bruesehoff 19.06.2023

In 2017, a ten-year-old girl named Rebekah went viral when she appeared at a rally with a simple sign: "I'm the scary transgender person the media warned you about." Her mom and dad, Jamie and ELCA pastor Chris Bruesehoff, had been raising Rebekah with her two younger brothers in a relatively safe "bubble of protection" where most people Rebekah met were kind and affirming. Suddenly, they were in...

#226 Hillsong Gonna Hillsong... Again. w/Janice Lagata 05.06.2023

CW: Sexual Assault and Harassment  Emmy and Natalia welcome back Janice Lagata to talk about the new Hillsong Docuseries and how power is always, always the problem.  Links: Support the show: http://www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian Venmo us: @cafeteriachristian      

#225 We Welcome Our AI Overlords 29.05.2023

Emmy and Natalia talk about AI and ChatGPT and what it all might mean for faith and church.    Links:  Support the show: http://www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian Venmo Us: @cafeteriachristian    

#224 Maycember 22.05.2023

Natalia and Emmy talk about grind and hustle culture as it pertains to the busyness of May, and also about rest, sabbatical, and how we just aren't as important as we think we are.    Links:  Support the show: http://www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian Venmo Us: @cafeteriachristian  Natalia's blog post for Church Anew on Digital Community:  https://churchanew.org/blog/posts/natalia-terfa-digital-co...

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