Natalia Terfa, Emmy Kegler
Cafeteria Christian
Cafeteria Christian started as a place for people who love Jesus but are so over the version of Christianity that forgets love, justice, and curiosity. Hosted by Pastor Natalia Terfa and Pastor Emmy Kegler, the show is a mix of faith conversations, cultural commentary, and the beautiful, complicated mess of trying to follow Jesus in the real world. From biblical deep dives to big feelings about the world, Emmy and Natalia create a space where honesty and hope coexist. Together, we're reclaiming the term "Cafeteria Christian" — because when it comes to faith, you really can take what you like a...
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Natalia Terfa, Emmy Kegler
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Jun 29, 2026
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Episodes
#319 No Mega-Church May 28.05.2025 1:05:12
We asked, and you all responded! This week Emmy and Natalia read and talk about the ways Cafeterians have church shopped and how it went. www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian
#318 No Mega-Church May 19.05.2025 1:01:05
Emmy and Natalia answer our most commonly asked listener question about churches and how to find a "good" church that also is safe, but also has good music, and also good preaching, and and and and and. Links: www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian
#317 Practicing Being Human w/ Beth Silvers 12.05.2025 1:07:30
Emmy and Natalia welcome Beth Silvers of Pantsuit Politics to spend a little time talking about the intersections of faith and politics and why we haven't given up on either just yet. Links: Pantsuit Politics: https://www.pantsuitpoliticsshow.com/ Sarah Bessey Article: https://sarahbessey.substack.com/p/are-we-still-calling-ourselves-christians www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian
#316 The Noise of Your Songs 07.05.2025 57:05
Emmy and Natalia talk about a few stories about Christianity that have been in the news this week, and why it matters to stay in this faith thing, even when it feels like it would be easier to just walk away. www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian
#315 Get in Loser, We're Going Conclaving 30.04.2025 1:02:30
Natalia drags Emmy into her rabbit hole of interest in the papacy and tries to convince her that it matters and that we should care - even if we're super not Catholic. http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian
#314 Post-Easter Mini-sode with Emmy 25.04.2025 20:36
Emmy offers a short meditation on life after Easter Sunday. Content warning for discussion of a suicide attempt. www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian
#313 Hope is Sewer Rat with Feathers 15.04.2025 1:03:32
Emmy and Natalia talk about hope - and why it is so hard to hold onto right now, and what we are doing to hold onto hope when everything else is telling us to just let it go. Poem: Hope is Not a Thing with Feathers Emily, It Is a Sewer Rat - by Caitlin Seida www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian
#312 Why Does Holy Week Matter? 08.04.2025 56:31
Emmy and Natalia talk about how we show up during a week of complicated emotions and feelings, and one that often has a lot of church baggage attached to it. As we get closer to this particular week in the church, let's reflect on what really matters about each day, and why. http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian
#311 Theology of Reality 31.03.2025 1:01:47
Emmy and Natalia get into a deeply theological talk about God and faith and life right now and why scripture is still relevant and where God is right now. Notes: www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian www.facebook.com/groups/cafeteriachristian Book Club Form link: https://forms.gle/QobkVMPsvLQX44QP7
#310 Good Soil w/ Jeff Chu 24.03.2025 56:56
Emmy and Natalia welcome Jeff Chu to talk about his new book, Good Soil. Get Jeff's Book: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/729761/good-soil-by-jeff-chu/ See Jeff on his book tour: https://byjeffchu.com/tour www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian
#309 Disciples of White Jesus w/ Angela Denker 17.03.2025 59:34
Natalia welcomes back friend of the pod friend of God Angela Denker to talk about her new book "Disciples of White Jesus: the Radicalization of American Boyhood." This is a relevant, timely, and important book for anyone connected to young men and boys. Links for Angela: Angela's Website: https://www.angeladenker.com/ Buy Angela's Book: https://bookshop.org/p/books/disciples-of-white-jesus-the-...
#308 Empathy IS Christian 10.03.2025 50:25
OMG we can't believe we have to say this (Empathy is Christian) but it turns out some people are really pushing an anti-compassion anti-empathy rhetoric right now and Emmy and Natalia are here to clear the air. We check in about baby eagles and new cars to start, and the main topic begins around min 15. Links: www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian Jackie and Shadow Webcam: https://www.youtube.com/...
#307 Lent Is a Rollercoaster Baby We're Gonna Die 03.03.2025 58:28
Emmy and Natalia talk about Lent and the rollercoaster of this whole season in the church: ups and downs and ups and downs and ups? It's a lot. When life is already a lot. How do we do this sad season when life feels pretty sad on its own? www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian Links: Emmy's Article: https://sojo.net/articles/unintended-consequences-spiritual-discipline Kate's Lent Devotional: https:...
#306 The Beatitudes (Emmy & Natalia's Bible Corner) 24.02.2025 1:01:53
Emmy and Natalia take some time to talk about a newly controversial topic: The Bible. Hahahahaha obviously this isn't new, but we thought we'd start with a set of familiar verses to dig into for our return to reclaiming the Bible for good. Notes: Spencer LaJoy - Plowshare Prayer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHQ9FoQC3BI www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian
#305 Embodied - Even Now w/ Ellie Roscher 17.02.2025 1:00:24
Natalia welcomes back Ellie Roscher to talk about how we stay in our bodies despite the many ways the world is trying to get us to disengage, and how we can show up as regulated as possible each day, no matter what is happening. Links: www.ellieroscher.com www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian
#304 A Few Things That Are Helping 10.02.2025 57:52
Emmy and Natalia talk about the different large and small ways they are trying to survive and manage their mental, physical, and spiritual health during this new era. Links: Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer: https://www.wordwoman.com/a-daily-dose-of-poetry/ Natalia's Weekly Uplift: https://www.nataliaterfa.com/uplift www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian
#303 I've Got Questions w/ Erin Hicks Moon 03.02.2025 59:36
Emmy and Natalia sit down with the amazing Erin Hicks Moon to talk about her new book: I"ve God Questions: The Spiritual Practice of Having It Out with God. Cafeterians, Erin is our people, and this book is for us. Links: www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian Erin Hicks Moon details: Buy/preorder her book: https://bakerpublishinggroup.com/books/i-ve-got-questions/419610 Follow Erin: ErinHMoon...
#302 Even After Everything - w/Stephanie Duncan Smith 27.01.2025 1:09:23
Emmy and Natalia welcome author Stephanie Duncan Smith for an utterly gorgeous conversation about life's cycles of loss and grief and joy. Links: www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian https://stephanieduncansmith.substack.com/ @stephduncansmith on instagram
#301 This is January 20, 2025 20.01.2025 58:53
Emmy and Natalia talk about the complicated feelings about this particular January 20th - when we celebrate MLKJr Day and also the presidential inauguration day and how it all cycles into our ability to believe, not believe, and act with love anyway. Links: www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian The Drum Major Instinct: https://bethlehemfarm.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/DrumMajorInstinct.pdf
#300 Full Circle 13.01.2025 1:06:31
Emmy and Natalia celebrate their 300th episode (!) and reflect on where they've been and where they're going next, and how where we are now really feels like a good time to go back to our roots. Links: Alter Guild, ep 12: Ritual Promise - https://go.ivoox.com/rf/35237112 www.facebook.com/groups/cafeteriachristian www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian
#299 What are YOU Doing for Christmas? 16.12.2024 59:23
Emmy and Natalia talk about Christmas and why it's so often filled with stress and shoulds instead of peace and joy. After this episode we'll be taking a break until January 13th, but in between now and then join us for two Instagram Lives (on top of the usual Sunday morning ones). December 21st, 8:30pm (central standard time) - to celebrate the solstice/longest night. January 6th, 11am (centra...
#298 Christmas is a Mess 09.12.2024 1:02:36
Emmy and Natalia tackle a listener question about the different Christmas story narratives in the different Gospels, and why they are different and if it matters or not when they are. www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian
#297 Apocalyptic on Purpose 02.12.2024 53:01
Emmy and Natalia talk about Advent, and why it's not a "warm glow" season but actually a truth-telling season and kind of the perfect way to spend a few weeks right now - when everything feels like it's on fire and no one is ok. www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian
#296 We Do Not Give Thanks 27.11.2024 56:04
Emmy and Natalia talk about Thanksgiving and the tentative and tender ways some of us are showing up at various tables, or the ways we are choosing to not show up at all. www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian
#295 Women of Fire 18.11.2024 1:03:20
Emmy and Natalia decide to open the Bible to the book of Judges to see what wisdom for today might be found in these not-so-modern stories. Links: www.facebook.com/groups/cafeteriachristian www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian Melissa Florer Bixler: https://substack.com/home/post/p-151371020
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