Butterfly Foundation
Butterfly: Let's Talk
This is Let's Talk from the Butterfly Foundation. Join your host, Yvie Jones, as we explore living with body image issues and eating disorders.
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Jul 7, 2026
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Updating the 8 Keys to Recovery with Carolyn Costin 09.07.2024 34:47
Carolyn Costin is one of the most well-known names in eating disorder recovery treatment. Her book, Eight Keys to Recovery from an Eating Disorder, is a pioneering work that was published more than a decade ago and is still regarded as a central text in the field. Some people think of eating disorders in terms of addiction, with programs to actively get drugs, alcohol, and other addictions out of...
In depth with Dr Sarah Trobe: Fertility, your body and eating concerns 18.06.2024 25:30
Going through fertility treatment can be a nerve-wracking and sometimes demoralising experience. When it’s coupled with a past or current eating disorder, the whole process can be even more complicated. Why? “Fertility difficulties and going through fertility treatment can increase the risk of an eating disorder, but also, eating disorders can impact fertility,” says National Eating Disorder Colla...
Parents - Ask Me Anything about your teens' body image 04.06.2024 35:04
A staggering ninety-five percent of young Australians aged between 12 and 18 are experiencing some level of body image concern, and more than half are unhappy with how their body looks. That’s according to Butterfly’s second Body Kind Youth Survey. With body dissatisfaction playing a significant role in the development of eating disorders, it’s not surprising that this data makes sense in relation...
In Depth: Dr Carly Roukos on life at Wandi Nerida residential treatment centre 30.04.2024 27:12
Improvements in quality of life and reduced healthcare costs are just some of the benefits uncovered in a Monash University study of Australia’s only residential treatment program for people struggling with eating disorders. Wandi Nerida, based on Queensland’s Sunshine Coast, provides a unique model of holistic, person-centred, inpatient care. As the rate of eating disorders continues to rise, so...
In Depth: Butterfly's head of research and policy on the new community insights report 08.04.2024 23:44
Please note: This episode was briefly published prematurely on the 4th of April. If you listened to it then we apologise for the repeat. If you’ve ever wondered what the public in Australia knows and thinks about eating disorders and body image issues, this episode will put all your questions to rest. We unpack the latest findings from Butterfly's 2024 Community Insights Report with our Head of K...
Ouch: The eye-popping costs of an eating disorder 05.03.2024 28:27
We often talk about the psycho-emotional costs of eating disorders for those living with them; but up to this point, we haven’t learned much about the costs to society. Now we know. Since 2012, there’s been a shocking 36 per cent increase in the economic burden of eating disorders to the people of Australia. In the meantime, 1.1 million people in this country are currently living with an eating di...
If you've experienced trauma you could be at risk for an eating disorder 06.02.2024 26:25
We should let you know that this episode discusses sexual abuse and comes with a trigger warning. It's about trauma, which is an individual’s response to an event or series of events that have deeply disturbed their sense of safety, security, or well-being. While research shows a clear intersection between trauma or post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) and eating disorders, too few health profe...
In Depth with Harvard’s change maker Professor S. Bryn Austin 02.01.2024 24:47
This month we’re talking to a distinguished social epidemiologist and behavioural scientist at the Harvard Chan School of Public Health. Her name is Professor Bryn Austin, and her research focuses on public health approaches to eating disorders. Our conversation begins with an overview of the web that connects consumer culture, corporate exploitation, and the pervasive influence of diet culture on...
Under-diagnosed and poorly treated: Eating disorders in larger bodies 05.12.2023 27:16
We’re talking about the higher-weight paradox, particularly when well-meaning health professionals can trigger an eating disorder or make one worse. Not everything health issue is solved by losing weight, yet that is what people in larger bodies too often hear. Worse, numerous people living with eating disorders remain undiagnosed and untreated because the stereotype of an eating disorder doesn’t...
ANZAED 23: Still more to learn from the latest in research 31.10.2023 32:09
At the recent Australia and New Zealand Academy for Eating Disorders conference on the Gold Coast, we spoke to experts about new and groundbreaking insights into eating disorders. This episode is the second in a series of two. Dr Simon Wilksch unpacks his work around the significant financial and emotional costs that families face when caring for children with eating disorders and, to improve ou...
In depth with lived experience advocate Shannon Calvert 03.10.2023 24:27
The key to understanding any mental illness is to listen to those who have been through it. Not only can the voices of those with lived experience of an eating disorder help those who are currently impacted, but they also, importantly, serve to educate the health professionals who will provide care. The evidence is clear: Services that are co-designed with those who know their own situation will...
The latest in diagnosis and care from the annual ANZAED conference 05.09.2023 30:19
We snuck into the annual Australia and New Zealand Academy for Eating Disorders (ANZAED) conference to illuminate the future of eating disorder diagnosis and care. We recorded on-site at the conference, where we asked various speakers to give us a taste of their research for the sake of all those who’d be interested but couldn’t be there. Segment 1: Reviewing current treatment approaches Dr. Anthe...
In depth with former helpline manager Juliette Thomson on person-centred recovery 01.08.2023 25:26
According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, the DSM-V–also known as the psychiatrist’s bible–there are only four official diagnoses for eating disorders. Though experts expect that number to double in the next edition, the reasons someone might develop or maintain an eating disorder are as variable as the number of people affected. This is because eating disorders ar...
What medications can help you recover from an eating disorder? 04.07.2023 36:03
There’s a medication for almost every illness, and that’s true for mental illnesses, including eating disorders. But how do they work, and how do they help? We’re launching our fourth season of Butterfly: Let’s Talk with an investigation into medications used to treat people with eating disorders, including some brand-new developments that could offer hope. “Many people with an eating disorder wil...
What 1600 young people told us about their body image 06.06.2023 27:46
The results from the new Butterfly Body Kind Youth Survey are in, and they’re concerning. More than 1600 young people aged 12-18 took part in the survey, with at least half saying they were dissatisfied with their bodies. About one in three kids say they’re completely dissatisfied with the way that they look. "The problem is there’s a real cost to young people's body dissatisfaction," says Helen B...
Meet the three MPs committed to better care for eating disorders 09.05.2023 26:52
In February this year, ABC dedicated their flagship investigative report, Four Corners, to eating disorders. This was, in part, because of a few Members of Parliament. The MPs are Teal Independent Zoe Daniel, Liberal Andrew Wallace and Labor’s Susan Templeman. Based on continuous calls for help from their constituents, the three resolved to act for change. To start, they’re co-chairing a new Parli...
It still hurts: Appearance-based teasing when you're a kid 11.04.2023 23:50
Many of us remember being teased about our appearance in primary school because it happens - a lot. Perhaps we don’t think about it much now, but chances are the experience has left a mark on who we’ve become. The research is clear: Appearance-based teasing is a key risk factor for a child to develop body dissatisfaction which, in turn, can negatively impact their life outcomes, including their me...
In Depth with NEDC director Beth Shelton 14.03.2023 24:52
Dr Beth Shelton is a psychologist and long-time director of the National Eating Disorder Collaboration (NEDC), leading a team that develops national standards for preventing and treating eating disorders and works actively to build the system of care. As a highly respected professional in the field, we asked Beth to explain the different diagnoses for eating disorders, the possible causes, and wha...
All about #BodyPride as an LGBTQIA+ human 14.02.2023 25:16
We’re all subject to continuous appearance-based pressures which impact our self-worth. The LGBTQIA+ community is no different. In fact, it’s a community that faces unique challenges regarding pressures that affect body image. And, for some people, it can escalate during Mardi Gras season. “People will go on a big shred or a big diet for the month,” says one of Australia’s most popular LGBTQIA+...
In depth with early childhood body image expert Dr Stephanie Damiano 03.01.2023 24:14
It goes without saying that we want to give our young children the best start. We also know from years of research that negative body image can impact almost all life outcomes – including relationships, education, and careers. So how do we protect our children from developing a negative body image? And when should we start? The answer could shock you. Dr Stephanie Damiano is a psychology researc...
How can we be kind to our bodies this summer? 13.12.2022 26:07
The summer holidays usually come with some expectations. We meet the extended family for a holiday meal. We wear fewer clothes in the summer heat. We make new year’s resolutions pushed by the diet industry. We smile and nod at the inevitable comments about our appearance from well-meaning family members. And we’re expected to find all of this a joyous time of year. But it’s events like these that...
In Depth on Perfectionism with Prof Tracey Wade 01.11.2022 20:47
The drive for perfectionism is unusually common in people experiencing body image issues and eating disorders. Perfectionism is quite different from the drive to improve, which is an appropriate and healthy desire. Perfectionistic people, however, believe that "perfect" is possible—and the problem is that it's not. This sets up the perfectionist for continual frustration and disappointment, which...
In Depth with occupational therapist Dr Elysa Roberts 04.10.2022 26:34
In this episode, we sit down with occupational therapist Dr Elysa Roberts to discover why OT can be effective in treating eating disorders. First, what is an occupation? It’s generally defined as “any activity in which one engages”, which means it’s a lot more than just a job. An occupation can include eating, exercising, working, shopping, socialising, parenting, education, time spent on spiritu...
Young people and body image - all we don't know 13.09.2022 32:34
As parents or carers of young people, we like to think we know what's important in young people’s lives. But there's no way to tell what's really going on in their heads. If we're trying to understand young people as a group--their perspective in relation to the world and the culture right now--it's even harder. That's where Mission Australia's Youth Survey comes in. “It’s the largest national...
In Depth with Worimi Woman, Dr. Liz Dale 16.08.2022 20:30
Liz Dale is a Worimi Woman and Doctor of Psychology whose work involves Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people’s lived experience of eating disorders and body image concerns, as well as Aboriginal approaches to wellness and care. A holistic approach is becoming increasingly accepted as key to ongoing recovery. However, many of us steeped in Western European treatment models are still figurin...
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