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But First, Coffee

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But First, Coffee is a live weekly talk show where Jackye Clayton and John Baldino bring candid, insightful conversations about the world of work, leadership, and all things people. Each episode blends expert insight with real-world experience—covering employee engagement, leadership, inclusion, technology, and culture. It's not just HR theory; it's HR reality, poured fresh each week.

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WRKdefined Podcast Network

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Latest episode

Jul 2, 2026

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Episodes

PTO Nobody Takes 02.07.2026

Plenty of workers leave earned vacation on the table, and this conversation digs into why that happens and what leaders can do about it. Jackye Clayton and John Baldino unpack how micromanagement, guilt, and unclear policy quietly discourage people from using time they have already earned, and why unlimited PTO often means employees take even less. They make the case that managers should actively...

How to Get Managers to Be Managers 25.06.2026

Most companies promote their strongest individual contributor into management, then act surprised when that person manages like one. Jackye Clayton and John Baldino unpack why managing is a separate job that demands its own training, authority, and support, and what leaders owe a new manager before holding them accountable. The conversation runs from documenting performance issues honestly to mana...

The Four-Day Week vs The Five-Day Mandate 18.06.2026

Two trends are pulling the workweek in opposite directions, and most companies are quietly picking a side. John and Jackye weigh the four-day and reduced-hours movement against the expanding return-to-office wave, and land on a sharper question than the schedule itself. A shorter week only delivers when employees know exactly what their job is, what outcome is expected, and how their work connects...

The Two-Speed Workforce 11.06.2026

Two employees can clock in at the same company and live in completely different economies. Corporate and white collar roles are being trimmed while frontline, warehouse, and service talent is courted harder than ever. John and Jackye dig into the split, anchored by Walmart's May 2026 move to cut roughly 1,000 corporate jobs while it kept hiring for stores and warehouses, and United Airlines handin...

The Retirement Wave: Who Keeps the Knowledge? 04.06.2026

Nearly a quarter of the US workforce is now 55 or older, and a retirement wave is set to take decades of institutional knowledge with it. John and Jackye dig into why succession planning has been neglected for years, how AI can help capture what veteran employees know before they walk out the door, and why the human side of management still cannot be automated. The conversation ranges across workf...

Celebrating at Work: When Is Friendly Too Friendly? 28.05.2026

Workplace celebrations sound warm and simple until you realize not everyone wants a sheet cake with their name on it. This conversation unpacks how to recognize people at work without overstepping, why the line between a work friend and being friendly matters, and how HR can honor connection while still protecting the organization. The hosts trade real stories about birthday collections, family pi...

The Class of 2026 Hits the Job Market 21.05.2026

John and Jackye sit down with the question every HR pro and parent of a new grad is watching this year. The Class of 2026 is walking into a labor market that does not look like the one their parents were trained for. Hiring is flat, traditional pathways have splintered, and the systems built to filter applicants are aging out faster than the talent they were supposed to find. The conversation move...

The Manager Tax on Performance Reviews 14.05.2026

Performance reviews promise clarity and growth, yet the people running them quietly pay an enormous tax in time, focus, and emotional labor. This episode unpacks what that tax actually looks like for managers, why it keeps growing, and what HR and leadership can do to stop treating review season as a productivity black hole. Key Takeaways: The real cost of a review cycle is measured in manager hou...

Automating Distrust 07.05.2026

Employers are deploying keystroke logging, screen capture, and AI scoring at record pace, and the result is a workforce that no longer trusts the people signing the paycheck. John and Jackye unpack what surveillance technology is actually measuring, why it backfires on managers who lean on it, and how leaders can rebuild trust without giving up on accountability. Key Takeaways: Keystroke and mouse...

LIVE on Tape from WorkHuman 2026 01.05.2026

John and Jackye bring you a taped highlights edition straight from WorkHuman 2026. They unpack the conversations, themes, and on-the-ground takes that defined this year's gathering of HR and people leaders, and translate it all into what it actually means for the way work gets done now. Key Takeaways: What HR leaders are actually worried about in 2026, in their own words The shift from recognition...

The Squeezed Middle Manager 23.04.2026

Middle managers are quietly absorbing more pressure than any other layer of the organization. John and Jackye unpack why the role has become unsustainable, what executives are missing when they pile on accountability without authority, and how HR can intervene before the manager class breaks. Key Takeaways: Middle managers are being asked to deliver executive priorities while absorbing the emotion...

Trade War Hits HR: Planning in the Fog 16.04.2026

Tariffs, supply chain disruptions, and economic uncertainty have landed squarely in HR's lap. John and Jackye talk through what HR leaders are actually doing when the business environment shifts faster than any workforce plan can accommodate, and how to lead teams through decisions that cannot wait for clarity. Key Takeaways: Trade policy volatility is not just a finance problem — it forces HR to...

Signal Over Volume: The Applicant Flood Nobody Asked For 09.04.2026

Hiring teams did not ask for hundreds of applications per role, but that is the reality right now. John and Jackye dig into what happens when volume becomes the enemy of quality, how AI-generated resumes are distorting the top of the funnel, and what recruiters can actually do to find real candidates inside the noise. Key Takeaways: The surge in applicant volume is driven by AI tools that make mas...

Laid Off by a Forecast 03.04.2026

Oracle just cut 30,000 jobs before most people finished their first cup, all to fund AI data centers. A new CEO survey reveals AI-driven cuts will be 9x higher than previously projected. This episode digs into what happens when workforce decisions are made by financial models instead of people managers, and what HR leaders need to do about it right now. Key Takeaways: Oracle's 30,000-person layoff...

Swag Report LIVE from Transform 2026 24.03.2026

What happens when HR's biggest conference meets your favorite coffee-fueled duo? John Humareso and Jackye Clayton hit the Transform 2026 conference floor for a live swag report, grading the best (and worst) vendor merchandise on display. Key Takeaways: The swag game at HR tech conferences reveals more about a brand than any booth demo Best-in-show items that attendees actually kept versus what hit...

What Hiring Actually Looks Like Right Now 19.03.2026

Hiring sounds clean in demos and messy in real life. In this episode, John and Jackye talk about what candidates and hiring teams are actually experiencing right now. Broken systems, tools without ownership, and AI that can organize data but can't replace judgment. This is an honest look at talent acquisition without the vendor gloss. Key Takeaways: The gap between how hiring tools are sold and ho...

Human Brand in an AI World 13.03.2026

AI is reshaping how we work, hire, and communicate. But what happens to the human side of branding when algorithms are writing the first draft? In this special Friday edition of But First, Coffee, recorded live from TalentNet in Austin, Jackye Clayton and John Baldino dig into what it means to build and maintain a human brand in an AI-driven world. They explore where AI helps, where it falls short...

YOU NEED TO CALM DOWN 26.02.2026

Workplace tension is rising as employees bring heightened emotions from social media, politics, and cultural flashpoints into the office. This episode explores how HR professionals and leaders can help teams navigate charged environments, practice self-regulation, and maintain civil discourse without silencing diverse viewpoints. Key Takeaways: Gratitude is a powerful tool for resetting emotional...

Leadership Is Lonely. Let's Stop Pretending Otherwise. 19.02.2026

Nobody warns you that leadership is lonely. Jackye Clayton and John Baldino have an honest conversation about what happens when you step into a leadership role and realize that your work friends may no longer be your friends, your decisions will make you a target, and no one prepared you for the isolation. From personal stories about transparent bosses to parenting as leadership practice, they exp...

Inclusion Isn't a Statement. It's a Set of Decisions. 12.02.2026

What does real inclusion look like beyond mission statements and policies? Jackye Clayton and guest Kate Johnson of 123 Limited dig into why inclusion fails when it centers comfort instead of belonging. From the beehive model of leadership development to the dangers of treating work like family, they explore how succession planning, feedback culture, and systemic design determine whether people ac...

Fulfillment vs Loyalty at Work 05.02.2026

What happens when loyalty to your employer stops serving you? In this candid conversation, Jackye Clayton and guest Jeremy Roberts unpack the tension between workplace fulfillment and organizational loyalty during an unpredictable economy. From navigating layoffs and fractional work to protecting your professional network, they explore why prioritizing loyalty to yourself, your skills, and your pe...

Clarity is not a personality trait. It is a system! 29.01.2026

Clarity and transparency are among the most overused words in organizational culture—yet most companies cannot define them in practice. In this episode of But First, Coffee, Jackye Clayton and John Baldino break down what organizational clarity actually requires, why HR professionals are often the worst at managing change despite owning the process, and how inconsistency silently destroys employee...

The Hangover of 2025 (Part II) - What Leaders Are Doing Instead of Leading 22.01.2026

Jackye Clayton and John Baldino close out their two-part 2025 hangover series by examining what leaders are doing instead of actually leading. They explore how leadership has evolved from Mad Men-era control to today's caricatures of yesteryear, and why many leaders mask insecurity by producing word salad instead of defining what success looks like. The conversation challenges annual performance e...

The Hangover of 2025 - Why Nothing Feels New Yet 15.01.2026

Jackye Clayton and John Baldino dig into why 2026 feels like a continuation of 2025 rather than a fresh start. They challenge the idea that HR is overburdened, arguing instead that HR is under-empowered and has been since COVID gave the function a false sense of importance through compliance tasks. The conversation unpacks how AI and technology tools are dumbing down talent acquisition by reducing...

What in the World Will 2026 Hold for Employees and Companies? 08.01.2026

Jackye Clayton and John Baldino kick off 2026 with predictions for employees and companies alike. They discuss why retention rates will improve this year but warn that staying does not mean loyalty -- it means safety. The conversation dives into U-Haul migration data showing Texas, Florida, North Carolina, Tennessee, and South Carolina as the top five destination states and what that means for whe...

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