Michael Cruz Kayne and Asher Perlman
But Also with Michael and Asher
But Also with Michael and Asher is a podcast about culture, but also politics, but also everything else. Hosted by Michael Cruz Kayne and Asher Perlman. Produced by Suite Tea Studio
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Michael Cruz Kayne and Asher Perlman
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Latest episode
Nov 3, 2026
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Episodes
Lesbians and Attachment Theory with Jenny Hagel 03.11.2026 1:21:15
Jenny Hagel (Late Night with Seth Meyers, Jenny Hagel Gives Advice) joins Michael and Asher to talk Instagram algorithms, attachment theory (round 2!), and first-grade soccer in Puerto Rico. 00:00:00 Cold open 00:00:30 Welcome Jenny Hagel 00:00:50 NYC's weirdly specific high schools (Harbor School) 00:03:55 Learning "facts" from Instagram 00:05:35 Why lesbians love attachment theory...
Margaret Hoover | But Also With Michael And Asher 26.10.2026 1:22:24
Margaret Hoover, host of Firing Line on PBS, joins Michael and Asher to talk about working Hurricane Katrina from inside the Bush White House, how the Republican Party went off the rails, and confronting Bill O'Reilly on her own show. 00:00:00 Cold Open 00:00:18 Giuliani Water and Kidney Stones 00:04:24 Morphine, Propofol, and Not Sleeping 00:09:29 Wikipedia Pages and Family Fact Checks 00:11...
Chloe Troast | But Also With Michael And Asher 19.10.2026 1:20:46
Chloe Troast (Furious, SNL) joins Michael and Asher to talk about being the new kid at SNL, small planes, and her only shopping experience at Paragon Sports. Plus, a full-throated endorsement of a tiny ice cream maker. 00:00:00 Cold Open 00:00:14 Being the New Kid at SNL 00:00:42 Paragon Sports 00:04:22 The Swimming Situationship 00:11:57 Chloe's Watery Death Wish 00:12:32 Was JFK Jr Asking F...
Eliana Kwartler | But Also With Michael And Asher 12.10.2026 1:27:37
Eliana Kwartler (Late Show with Stephen Colbert) is the guest Asher and Michael thought they had to prepare the least for. We chat attachment theory, the school essay she wrote about 9/11, and what (if anything) she misses about dating men. 00:00:00 Cold Open 00:00:21 Welcome Eliana Kwartler 00:01:14 Childhood Nicknames 00:03:06 Bullied, or the Bully? 00:09:57 Attachment Theory and "Attached...
Paul Dinello | But Also With Michael And Asher 05.10.2026 1:13:17
Paul Dinello (Strangers with Candy, Exit 57) stops by to discuss lifting calves, Psycho-Biddy films, and the Beatles Vs Bob Dylan. 00:00:00 Cold Open 00:00:30 Intro and Housekeeping 00:01:32 Rocco vs. the Inflatable Chef 00:04:03 Can Alley: When Annoying Noises Become Funny 00:08:04 Rocco at The Late Show 00:10:35 Life After The Late Show 00:12:41 The Lindsay Lohan Oreo Commercial 00:16:04 Stream...
Liza Treyger | But Also With Michael And Asher 29.09.2026 1:10:19
Comedian Liza Treyger (Survival of the Thickest) joins Michael and Asher to talk about getting kicked by a stunt horse and which cartoon characters audiences most want to sleep with. 00:00:00 Cold Open 00:00:22 Welcome Liza Treyger 00:00:35 The Super on the Ladder 00:03:48 Hamptons Birthday Weekend 00:05:31 Heads Up, Wavelength, and Game Night 00:09:28 Birthday Dinner and the Best Guinness in NYC...
George Civeris | But Also With Michael And Asher 21.09.2026 1:18:23
Comedian George Civeris (StraightioLab, A Sense of Urgency) joins Michael and Asher to talk chronic health mysteries, hair loss science, and why Materialists secretly rules. 00:00 Cold Open 00:28 Welcome George 01:11 Minoxidil and Family Hair Genetics 02:54 George's Laundry List of Medical Problems 06:45 Hair Transplants, Bad Plugs, and Political Bald Spots 16:06 Hair Systems and the Patreon...
Harvey Guillén | But Also With Michael And Asher 15.09.2026 1:17:50
Harvey Guillén (What We Do in the Shadows, Rocky Horror on Broadway) joins Michael and Asher for a real romp. They alo get into rat sympathy, learning Wicked in Japanese, a spider infested computer, and Harvey's Netflix true crime podcast Killer Stories. 00:00 Cold Open 00:31 Housekeeping & Show Plugs 01:37 Meet Harvey Guillén 02:17 Covid on Watch What Happens Live 03:13 Broadway Underst...
Rachel Abrams | But Also With Michael And Asher 08.09.2026 1:14:10
Rachel Abrams (co-host of The Daily) joins the podcast to finally settle the debate: was E.T. slimy or dry? She also talks about her journey to becoming a host of The Daily, and gives a full-throated endorsement of the chicken at Medieval Times. 00:00:00 Cold Open: The Rocky Raccoon Weather Bit 00:00:28 Welcome to But Also, With Guest Rachel Abrams 00:01:03 Rachel's 17 Years in Journalism, Fr...
Emmy Blotnick | But Also With Michael And Asher 31.08.2026 1:19:17
Comedian Emmy Blotnick (What's Her Secret?) joins Michael and Asher for a debate on matcha v coffee, dueling theories on who really invented the hamburger, and a detour through museum size preferences. They also try to crack the mystery of a stranger's stuffed bell pepper texts before Emmy closes with a full throated endorsement of PBS Passport. 00:00:00 Cold open: the pepper tease 00:00...
D'Arcy Carden | But Also with Michael and Asher 24.08.2026 1:16:57
Four shrimp for $30, a Fightmaster obsession, zero eye contact...D'Arcy Carden gets weird with us, and it rules. We cover a scientific breakdown of why spoilers don't ruin anything, a deep dive into her music obsession, an invented facial expression that might be a medical marvel, and a full-throated defense of $4-a-shrimp cocktail. Also - wink theory, The Odyssey discourse, and one hote...
Gary Gulman | But Also With Michael And Asher 17.08.2026 1:19:05
Gary Gulman is a stand up comedian known for acclaimed stand up specials The Great Depresh, Grandiloquent, and Born on 3rd Base. He talks to Asher and Michael about turning down endorsement deals, a cataract surgery that gave him 20/20 vision overnight, and the ethics of corporate gigs and sponsorships. He endorses John Steinbeck's East of Eden. 0:00:00 Cold Open 0:00:19 Intro 0:00:51 Turning...
Aaron Jackson | But Also With Michael and Asher 10.08.2026 1:18:15
Aaron Jackson (Dicks: The Musical, The Opposition with Jordan Klepper, Author of The Astonishing Life of August March) joins Michael and Asher to discuss Patti LuPone, Bruce Springsteen's eating habits, and the true difference between jealousy and envy. 00:00:00 Cold Open 00:00:14 Welcome Aaron Jackson 00:03:23 Nick at Nite Nostalgia 00:06:39 NYPD Nuts 00:07:05 Podcast Swag 00:08:44 Aaron&ap...
Jen Spyra | But Also with Michael and Asher 03.08.2026 1:21:11
Jen Spyra is a writer whose work has been featured in the New Yorker. She was a senior writer at the Onion and also wrote for The Late Show with Stephen Colbert for four seasons. She joins us for a conversation about catchin d while havin' cancer, how gossip is good, and cowards in the republican party. 00:00:00 Cold Open 00:00:30 Welcome to But Also 00:01:03 Life in the Samurai Hole 00:02:05...
Josh Gondelman | But Also with Michael and Asher 27.07.2026 1:18:05
Josh Gondelman joins Michael and Asher to talk apartment disasters, sneaker culture, insurance mascots, and the books he can't stop recommending. 0:00 Cold Open/Intro 0:58 The Great Apartment Flood 6:23 "Freak My Sneaks" 9:10 Pimp My Ride Ruined People's Lives 11:50 Jake From State Farm and J.K. Simmons 17:24 Josh's Twitter Pep Talk Era 20:05 The Modern Seinfeld Twitter Ac...
Rachel Antonoff | But Also with Michael and Asher 20.07.2026 1:16:03
Rachel Antonoff is a fashion designer, dog lover, and has strong feelings about plungers. But Also is produced by Suite Tea Studio 00:00:00 Cold Open 00:00:30 Convincing Michael to Get a Dog 00:05:15 Frantic Vet Emails to Dr. Thompson 00:08:14 Talking to Pets in Weird Voices 00:10:56 Show Tunes and the Miss Saigon Obsession 00:12:03 Playing Annie at the JCC 00:13:41 Fiddler on the Roof: Topol vs....
Jordan Klepper | But Also with Michael and Asher 13.07.2026 1:27:00
Jordan Klepper (The Daily Show) joins Michael and Asher to talk field reporting, the "Brick Suit Guy," and what actually changes someone's mind when the cameras are off. Plus: DOGE, voter ID, Graham Platner, dad life, and trips to the gastroenterologist. 00:00:00 Cold Open 00:00:22 Welcome 00:00:59 Podcast Photos, Dress Code, and Homework 00:05:03 Introducing Jordan Klepper 00:05:16...
Taylor Ortega | But Also with Michael and Asher 06.07.2026 1:16:22
Taylor Ortega is an actress & comedian starring in Big Mistakes on Netflix. She chats with Michael and Asher about Scents, fashion shows, and Ipods But Also with Michael and Asher is produced by Suite Tea Studio 00:00:00 Cold Open 00:00:25 Fashion Week Nerves and Celine 00:03:50 Nominal Determinism and the Winner Loser Twins 00:05:44 Smells, Signature Scents, and Bad Breath 00:13:15 Coffee, Sl...
Jeff Hiller | But Also with Michael and Asher 29.06.2026 1:14:57
Jeff Hiller is an Emmy Award Winning Actor, Comedian, and Improviser. He starred as Joel in the Emmy Winning TV Show Somebody Somewhere, and he also stars as Dale on the TV show Widow's Bay on Apple TV Plus. But Also is produced by Suite Tea Studio 0:00 Welcome to But Also 0:29 Introducing Jeff Hiller 1:14 Nobody Expected the Emmy 3:10 The Night-Before Party 6:40 The Call ("I'm Get...
Jay Jurden | But Also with Michael and Asher 22.06.2026 1:27:35
Jay Jurden stops by to talk about Miss Saigon, Playing MSG, and what type of men grandmama's find attractive. But Also With Michael and Asher is produced by Suite Tea Studio 00:00:00 Intro 00:00:48 Half white, half Asian discourse 00:02:56 Miss Saigon and Bui Doi 00:04:32 It's Raining Fish and the stunt double 00:06:50 Height, the doctor, and fainting 00:13:33 Asher's dog on the tr...
Zach Cherry | But Also with Michael and Asher 15.06.2026 1:39:27
Zach Cherry drops by to talk about only eating things he 'likes', the NY Liberty, and Alamo Drafthouse. But Also with Michael and Asher is produced by Suite Tea Studio 00:00:00 Opening Banter 00:01:37 Welcome to But Also 00:01:49 Guest Introduction: Zach Cherry 00:02:33 Dinner Discussion Begins 00:03:58 Pizza Preferences 00:04:47 Food Ethics & Oxtail 00:05:24 Politics Segment Attemp...
Katie Nolan | But Also with Michael and Asher 08.06.2026 1:27:33
Katie Nolan stops by to talk dying on her own terms, Macklemore's hypocrisy, The America 250 celebration, and a vaginal microbiome sponsorship nobody asked for. Edited by Rachel Whitaker Theme music by Peter E. Snyder Audio engineered by Suite Tea Studio Executive produced by Produced Michael Cruz Kayne, Asher Perlman, and Suite Tea Studio. 0:00 Cold Open / Intro 0:14 Vaginal Microbiome Spons...
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