Melissa Anne & Amanda Turnbull

Burning Butterflies

Religion EN ↓ 100 episodes

Two women share their journey of escaping toxic church culture and healing from spiritual abuse.

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Melissa Anne & Amanda Turnbull

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Religion

Latest episode

Dec 25, 2025

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Episodes

The Finale 25.12.2025

Chapter 7, Episode 19 The series finale! 

Free At Last! Free At Last! Melissa Is Free At Last! 19.12.2025

Chapter 7, Episode 18 We've brought you full circle in the podcast to where we began, but there's one last story we need to tell. Throughout this podcast we have hinted at the fact that Melissa is divorced from Froggy, but we've never told the story of the divorce. And in true Burning Butterflies fashion, it's a doozy! 

Full Circle: Back To Where We First Started Our Story 12.12.2025

Chapter 7, Episode 17 Well, we have come full circle! We're bringing you right back to where we started this story - with Melissa and Amanda sitting in a hotel room, taking an online quiz, looking at each other in stunned disbelief and the phrase "Holy shit, we were in a cult!" being uttered!

Deconstruction and Confidence Are Fanned Into Flames 05.12.2025

Our ladies have all left the church and are all on their healing and deconstruction journeys. But an accident from the past comes back to haunt Tom and leads to a lawsuit, affidavits and depositions. But this time, a few of the people being asked the hard questions are no longer drinking the koolaid!  Burning Butterflies is a listener supported podcast. Please check out our  Patreon  to learn more...

You Girls Morphs Into Jezebels: Let The Shit Talking Begin 28.11.2025

Chapter 7, Episode 15 What happens when Brandi decides to leave the church? Well in true Come As You Are Fashion, it involves a ton of gaslighting and narrative shifting! How did we go from Brandi is amazing and we're throwing her a going away party and giving her an envelope full of cash to she's awful and we are not to talk about her ever again to Brandi receiving a phone call from the person wh...

Ding Dong, Froggy's Gone! 21.11.2025

Chapter 7, Episode 14 TW: abuse, DV, threatening murder For nine years, Melissa has tried her very best to be the wife that God is calling her to be; even through Froggy's abuse, anger and addiction. So what was the straw that broke this camel's back and finally rid Melissa from his reign of terror?  This episode contains descriptions of domestic violence. If that is too much for you, please skip...

The Edgy Problem Children vs The Prim and Propper 14.11.2025

Chapter 7, Episode 13 Melissa is one of the main leaders of women's retreat, giving the inspiration for the theme for the year. But little did she know that not only would this all go down the drain, but this would be her last experience with women's retreat ever.  Burning Butterflies is a listener supported podcast. Please check out our  Patreon  to learn more about how you too can support what w...

Finding Our Voices: So This Is What Confidence Feels Like 07.11.2025

Chapter 7, Episode 12 Amanda is pushed over the edge and finally comes to the realization that Tom was lying about Barry the entire time. Meanwhile, Melissa finds the confidence within herself to push back against Froggy's controlling nature.  Burning Butterflies is a listener supported podcast. Please check out our  Patreon  to learn more about how you too can support what we are doing! Please he...

The Tale of Two Visits: Miss America Under Orders 30.10.2025

With Amanda out of the office and Melissa distancing herself from the church in preparation to leave Froggy, Miss America is getting closer and closer to Charlotte. In this episode, Melissa and Amanda discuss the visits they made to Miss America's house - Amanda thinking she wanted to discuss church marketing and Melissa being ordered to go by Charlotte.  Burning Butterflies is a listener supporte...

Daddy Issues & Near Death Trauma: Amanda Finally Quits 24.10.2025

Chapter 7, Episode 10 Amanda finally has had enough and quits her job (for real this time) and it occurs to her that Tom has had a plan to put Miss America in her job position all along. But still, Amanda is devoted to this church family and is wanting to stay even though she is stepping down from ministry and her job in the office. But when her son has a medical emergency, the support and love th...

Come to the Table and Out Form Under the Umbrella of Authority 17.10.2025

Chapter 7, Episode 9 Under women's ministry, the ladies took a bold turn during Covid and started Facebook lives that turned into a Sally Jessy Raphael fever dream. Ladies were loving it and Charlotte signed off on it. So when Tom randomly shows up one recording day, the gals think he will love it. But oh how wrong they were!  In this episode, the ladies discuss how Tom passive aggressively attemp...

Amanda's Long Awaited Second Meeting With Barry 10.10.2025

Chapter 7, Episode 8 Amanda has been struggling with her place at the church for a while, so she finally makes the decision that if she can't see the vision for Come As You Are that God has given Tom, then she needs to step down from her position in the church. As she puts things in place to step away from ministry, she has her second meeting with Barry. And let's just say, things don't go very we...

Miss America and the Four T's of Charlette's Women's Ministry 03.10.2025

Chapter 7, Episode 7 Charlette is on a mission to make Miss America likeable to the masses right in the middle of Amanda's crusade to make Come As You Are Great Again! These two fronts converge with the push for Miss America to lead a women's ministry event.  For years, the qualifications of what is expected of leaders at Come As You Are have been pushed down the body's throats. Masterlife, Next S...

Thursday Nights: Melissa Has Enough 26.09.2025

Chapter 7, Episode 6 Thursday Night Service has been nothing but worship and small groups for a few weeks now and Melissa and Froggy are leading a study. Their plan? Read through the Bible as married couples. A plan that is simple in premise, but difficult in execution. Froggy's grandparents continually try to have deep discussions on Biblical marriage (which is not what the study is about). And F...

Men Up For Eldership: Tom Presents His Own Downfall 19.09.2025

Chapter 7, Episode 5 The men have completed the eldership training and are ready to be presented to the body as elders. But there's one glaring issue. There is a clear difference between the men that serve the body that will become elders and those that will become elders that don't serve the body. Also, Tom wasn't planning on seeking the input of the entire church family. In a prayer meeting, Ama...

Hope 2020: Melissa's Women's Ministry Debut 12.09.2025

Chapter 7, Episode 4 With the pandemic, the ladies can't travel up the mountain for retreat in 2020. With many women having pre-paid, Come As You Are needs to come up with something quick before ladies start asking for refunds. The solution? A conference! This will be Melissa's women's ministry debut, leading along side Brandi and Amanda will not be involved at all. Well, at least that was the pla...

Melissa Plans Her Escape 04.09.2025

Chapter 7, Episode 3 Join Melissa and Amanda as they discuss Melissa's marriage after Froggy returned from helping his brother during COVID. The time away gives Melissa clarity and she begins to plot her escape. However, she still has to "do church."  Burning Butterflies is a listener supported podcast. Please check out our  Patreon  to learn more about how you too can support what we are doing! P...

Seeing Red: The Infamous Color Levels 29.08.2025

Chapter 7, Episode 2 Tom thought forming an eldership would solve his leadership problems—but instead, it created new ones. These men are about to complete their eldership training and will become official leaders in the church. The problem? Ministries already have leaders. People who’ve been doing the work faithfully for years are now being told they have to answer to someone else. Enter Tom’s br...

We're Growing on Purpose: Make Come As You Are Great Again 22.08.2025

Chapter 7, Episode 1 In the debut episode of our final chapter, the ladies pick up where they left off in chapter 6. Amanda was yelled at and called inept for not sending Tom's mother in law a text message. Amanda intends to confront Tom, pointing out that he has lost his way and Come As You Are isn't living up to it's purposes. But Tom takes Amanda's words as "affirmation" that he has heard from...

Chapter 7 Trailer 17.08.2025

This is it! The final chapter! In this last "minisode," Melissa and Amanda talk about how they have changed over the course of the podcast and what they are most looking forward to in this final chapter.  The first episode of Chapter 7 will drop on Thursday, August 21st at 6:30pm

People Start Asking Questions: The Family Wasn't the Same 08.08.2025

Chapter 6, Episode 13 - Chapter Finale As tensions build in the church against Barry, people start asking questions. Barry and Miss America seem to have changed their narrative and people are taking notice. At the same time, Amanda is starting to question if Tom is someone worth following.  Burning Butterflies is a listener supported podcast. Please check out our  Patreon  to learn more about how...

The Regathering: Barry Leads the Way 01.08.2025

Chapter 6, Episode 12 Come As You Are finally gets cleared from the county to reopen from the Covid shutdown and who does Tom choose to make huge decisions? Barry! The man who has not even been at the church for a year, the man who hasn't taken any of the onboarding classes, the man who keeps changing his past. And in the midst of it all, Amanda finds the backbone to finally stand up to Tom and ca...

Froggy During Covid: Melissa Finds Herself Again 25.07.2025

Chapter 6, Episode 11 Throughout the pandemic, Froggy travels out of state to work for his brother. This time apart is not only good for Froggy (who is finding fulfillment in his work) but also for Melissa (who is getting her groove back without the abusive cloud of Froggy looming over her).  Burning Butterflies is a listener supported podcast. Please check out our  Patreon  to learn more about ho...

The Doctor and The Dead Mice 18.07.2025

Chapter 6, Episode 10 They're making Barry a pastor, so how does his debut go? And what is that smell coming from the church office? But there's no time to worry about any of that, we have a VBS to put on in the middle of a pandemic! Burning Butterflies is a listener supported podcast. Please check out our  Patreon  to learn more about how you too can support what we are doing! Please help us shar...

The Week That Seemed Like a Year 11.07.2025

Chapter 6, Episode 9 Some weeks blur together. This one? Felt like a lifetime. In this episode, the ladies double-check the receipts, because there’s no way all of this chaos unfolded in just seven days… right? Wrong. In the middle of a global pandemic, they somehow manage to plan an online VBS, lay the groundwork for what would eventually become the women's ministry podcast, and spiral over the b...

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