Paul Archer and Verity Hurd

Building Brand Advocacy

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Building Brand Advocacy is a tactical marketing podcast exploring how the world’s most impactful brands grow. Hosted by Paul Archer and Verity Hurd, the show explores the tactics and strategies behind modern brand building. Each episode breaks down how category-defining brands, platform leaders, and industry insiders rewriting the rules of growth and the tactics, strategies, and decisions other brands can apply immediately. This podcast is your marketing playbook.

Author

Paul Archer and Verity Hurd

Category

Business

Podcast website

www.duel.tech

Latest episode

Jul 1, 2026

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Episodes

“You’re Tracking Metrics, Not Listening” & It Shows ft. Jazmin Griffith 01.10.2025

Most brands are looking at the wrong data.  Worse still? You don’t know what to do with it. This week, Verity sits down with Jazmin Griffith (Social Strategist, Content Creator, and Founder @ Social Listening Studio, queloque?). Jazmin pulls back the curtain on what real listening looks like today – and why it’s about far more than sentiment & mentions. From decoding niche communities to spott...

“All Marketing Is Brand + Performance” & Aerie Knows It ft. Luke Klein 17.09.2025

What does a decade of building Brand Advocacy look like in practice? Back in May, Paul sat down with Luke Klein (Senior Director of Marketing Strategy & Growth @ Aerie) to unpack one of fashion’s longest-running movements: #AerieREAL. The campaign started in 2014 with a bold commitment: no more retouching. But it was more than a moment; it was a cultural stance. In the 10 years since, Aerie ha...

Marketing Isn’t Boring, You Are: Inside The Comedy Content Engine That’s Breaking Social's Rules ft. Henry Hayes 10.09.2025

Not Hot Take: Marketing shouldn’t feel like a meeting. It should move you. This week, Verity sits down with Henry Hayes – Head of Marketing @ Passionfruit and the comedic content machine reshaping how brands build attention, internally & externally. Whether you know Henry from his LinkedIn comedy bits or his unconventional marketing strategies at Passionfruit, this conversation peels back the...

How You Make Influencers & Affiliates Your Advocates (Not Just Your Megaphones) ft. Lowri Evans 03.09.2025

Brand budgets? Tighter. Expectations on creators? Higher. Welcome to the new era of influencer marketing; where performance matters most, platforms are merging, and brands can’t afford to get it wrong. Kicking off Season 3, Verity sits down with Lowri Evans – an influencer strategy expert with experience at VIEVE, Coco & Eve, Revive Collagen and more. Fresh from going freelance, Lowri breaks d...

What Brands Can Learn From Charli XCX & Beyoncé (& Use It To Win) ft. Joel Marlinarson 23.07.2025

Engineering joy > selling stuff. It’s really that simple.  (But how do you do it?) This week, Verity sits down with Content Creator, Social Strategist, and ‘Coldest Creative’ Founder, Joel Marlinarson. Together, they unpack the intersection where fashion, food, music, and culture collide online – and what smart brands are doing about it. Joel’s built a platform decoding brand moves for his audi...

Why MCoBeauty Is Winning the Dupe Economy (& TikTok's Heart) ft. Gabriel Gomez 16.07.2025

What do you get when you combine razor-sharp humour, social-first instincts, and a refusal to play by the rules? An equal-parts entertaining, and practical, deep dive into brand building on social today. This week, Verity sits down with Gabriel Gomez (Head of Social & Community @ MCoBeauty (US), Creator & Speaker) to explore how one of Australia’s most-followed beauty brands is winning the...

How Surreal, Innocent & Great Copy Wins Brand Fans (Without Losing The Plot) ft. John Thornton 09.07.2025

Can you build Brand Advocacy in punchlines? John Thornton thinks so. Kind of. Verity sits down with Surreal's Senior Creative (and ex-Innocent wordsmith) to break down how brand voice becomes a business asset, how humour fuels loyalty, and why you should definitely check your QR codes before a campaign launch. This isn’t another chat about tone of voice. It’s a behind-the-scenes on… The truth abou...

Forget Followers, Find “10 People That Believe In Your Brand” To Build Real Brand Love (Like ASOS, Red Bull & REFY Do) ft. Sedge Beswick 02.07.2025

Is your brand actually building Advocacy – or are you still buying influence? This week, Verity’s joined by Sedge Beswick; humbly, one of the most sought-after voices in modern marketing. She’s the exited Founder of Seen Connects, Strategic Advisor to multiple brands, a Public Speaker, Mentor, and the original architect behind the ASOS social team. From why the term ‘community’ is losing meaning,...

How You Build Brands Gen Z Actually Care About, Straight From The Strategists 25.06.2025

This is about more than Gen Z. It’s about the way they’ve reshaped marketing for everyone . This week, Paul chats with Lara Stallbaum (CEO & Founder @ Twirl) and Rosie Donoghue (Digital Marketing Manager @ Umberto Giannini) LIVE from London’s Brand Advocacy Summit to unpack: ✨ How to speak Gen Z’s language without losing your brand. ✨ Why performance marketing isn’t enough anymore. ✨ The su...

YouTube Isn’t Social, It’s Search: Build A Channel That Wins Like JD Sports’ (With 0-500k Subscriber Credentials) 18.06.2025

YouTube has been around for nearly two decades.  So, why are most brands still so bad at it? For this chat, Paul & Verity sit down with Chloe McCullough (YouTube Lead @ JD Sports & consultant to brands like SheerLuxe) to ask what building a real brand channel looks like. From scrapping paid media to focusing on organic reach, from creator-first strategies to serialized formats that cut thr...

Kurt Geiger Confirmed: The New Brand Currency Is Experience & Belonging, Not Buzz 11.06.2025

What do pop-ups, playful giant handbags, and hyperlocal partnerships have in common? They’re not stunts. They’re strategy. Recorded LIVE at the Brand Advocacy Summit: London, this is the second of four exclusive episodes – straight from the stage. Verity & Paul sit down with Pascale Montaner (VP of Global Marketing @ Kurt Geiger) and Louisa O’Connor (Managing Director @ Seen Presents) to dig i...

Here’s How You Actually Foster Community, Like Free Soul & Tropic Skincare 05.06.2025

Harsh truth: everything you know about community is outdated. Let’s get to the heart of a word marketers love to throw around, but rarely define. This week, join us LIVE from the stage of the Brand Advocacy Summit: London — kicking off a four-part mini series from the day with a heavy hitter. Verity sits down with Lucy Murray (Brand Director @ Free Soul), Emily Mitchell (Marketing Director @ Tropi...

3 Ps, No BS: Start With People, Passion & Purpose To Build Like Legend-Status Beauty Brands Do ft. Coryn Brisbane 28.05.2025

There’s no brand magic without brand meaning.  The biggest names in beauty know this.  This week, Verity sits down with Coryn Brisbane (Brand & Marketing Consultant | ex-VIEVE, Charlotte Tilbury, Flannels, Glossybox) to talk brand values, internal Advocacy, and what happens when beauty brands scale too fast, too superficially. With a powerhouse CV and a fierce belief in brands that live their...

From Nike’s Strategy To Bugaboo’s Cult Strollers, Here’s How You Win Hearts (& Markets) Like The Expert Who Did It aka. Jeanelle Teves 15.05.2025

What happens when you build brand love from the ground up – and actually mean it? You get an approach that’s part Nike discipline, part Bugaboo heart, and it works. Dive into the tactical how of scaling a brand through hyper-local community building, influencer relationships that last years , and turning your customer service team into your brand’s secret weapon. Paul sits down with Jeanelle Teves...

Stop “Constantly Peddling Content” & Start Putting “Word-Of-Mouth Over Everything” ft. Leah Uka 07.05.2025

Disruption isn’t a claim. It’s a commitment. This week, Verity sits down with Leah Uka (Chief Brand Officer @ Jewells) who shares how to build a brand that actually does things differently. From Combat Medic to Founder to global Brand Leader, Leah’s path defies the expected – and so does her approach to brand-building. Jewells is set to reframe the jewelry space by making every product personal, e...

Why The Old Brand-Influencer Playbook Is Dying (& What You Can Do About It) ft. Gigi Robinson 30.04.2025

Affiliate links? No thanks. Pop-ups over panels? Think again. A content creator using AI to replace herself? Now we’re listening. Season 2 of Building Brand Advocacy is officially in-swing.  This week, Verity’s in New York with Gigi Robinson – a Creator Expert, Social Specialist, Founder, Chronic Illness Advocate, and trusted partner to brands like Liquid IV, obé Fitness, and Stanford University (...

100 Episodes: The Unforgettable Bits, Lessons & Laughs From Building Brand Advocacy With You 23.04.2025

What’s rarer than viral growth, and more powerful than performance marketing? Sustained Advocacy. It’s what the brands on this show have built, and what this 100th episode is here to celebrate. To mark the special milestone, Paul & Verity are looking back on the unforgettable moments, tactics, and truths from 100 conversations with the sharpest minds in brand building – the CMOs, Founders, and...

Why Perfect Brands Fail & Honest Ones Build Advocacy (Like Ethique) ft. Erica Cocilova 16.04.2025

Why do polished brands stall, while real ones build Advocacy? Because today’s consumers don’t want perfection. They want proof.  This week, Erica Cocilova (Chief Executive Officer @ Ethique Beauty) joins Verity in New York to unpack why substance, imperfection, and product obsession are the future of brand building. From rebrands & B Corp audits to salon takeovers that win over skeptics, Erica...

Advocacy 101: How Founders Turn Creators, Customers & Employees Into Brand Champions 19.03.2025

The strongest brands aren’t built through ads. They’re built through people. Welcome to a special Advocacy 101 episode, where five expert insights are remixed into one helpful guide. The time, it’s Founders’ takes on turning creators, customers, and those in your brand network into your most powerful brand champions. Featuring lessons from Lucy Aylen (Founder @ Never Fully Dressed), Marielle Wyse...

Make Brand Content People Actually Want To Watch, According To A Creator ft. Miranda Shanahan 12.03.2025

How do some brands thrive on social while others struggle to make an impact? The best know they’re not just competing with other brands – they’re competing with viral creators, meme accounts, and even second-screens. So, here’s your tactical framework for standing out in the never-ending scroll. This week, Miranda Shanahan (Brand Consultant & Content Creator on @mirandadoesbrands) joins Verity...

Here’s How You Build An Entire Campaign From One Influencer Post ft. Keith Bendes 05.03.2025

Most brands see influencer content as single posts, even when they’re part of long-term partnerships.  The best brands see these posts as the start of entire campaigns. Creators are more than marketing channels – they’re shaping culture, setting trends, and even launching products that outperform legacy brands. This week, Paul welcomes Keith Bendes (Forbes Contributor, Creator Expert & VP of S...

How Soru Jewellery Builds Creator Relationships Without Losing Their Brand DNA: Francesca Kelly’s Founder Story 26.02.2025

Some brand-creator partnerships feel forced. Others just work .  Real Advocacy is the difference. This week, Verity sits down with Francesca Kelly (Co-Founder @ Soru Jewellery) to break down how collaboration, not control, has fueled the brand’s growth.  No rigid contracts. No paid influencer posts. Just long-term partnerships built on mutual excitement – leading to years-long collaborations, a gl...

The Symprove Strategy: Turning Gut Feelings & True Connections Into Brand Growth ft. Carol McEvoy 12.02.2025

Brands are starting to get serious about Advocacy. Few understand what it takes to build it. Here’s the truth: You can’t buy real Advocacy. You have to earn it. That’s exactly what Carol McEvoy (Head of Social, PR & Advocacy @ Symprove) has spent years perfecting. From gut health to brand health, Carol and her team have built one of the most genuinely trusted communities in wellness. No shortc...

Advocacy 101: Nailing Content, Building Creator Relationships & Winning On Platforms in 2025 05.02.2025

The best brands aren’t just broadcasting. They’re building with their audiences. Welcome to a special Advocacy 101 episode, where we remix four expert insights on what’s next into one tactical guide.  Jo Bird (Creative Consultant | ex-Lounge, ex-Gymshark), Holly Chapman (Head of Brand @ Papier), Victoria Blinova (Senior Strategic Partner Manager @ YouTube), and Lia Haberman (Creator Economy Expert...

You’re Not Shadowbanned, You’re “Sleeping On Social Search” ft. Beth Thomas 29.01.2025

Your resident social media experts are here, deep diving on the most underrated tool in the modern social media toolkit – social search. Right now, it’s the biggest missed opportunity you might not be talking about.  More than a buzzy phrase, properly utilizing social search will be a game-changer for brands looking to keep strategies fresh and stay ahead.  This week, Verity meets with the expert...

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