Build Better Boards
Build Better Boards
The Build Better Boards podcast is created to help cooperative boards grow and thrive. Hosted by organizational health experts Richard Fagerlin and Keri Jacobs, PhD, each episode is conversational, with Richard and Keri sharing their experiences and tips on co-op governance and leadership. Inspired by their deep desire to help the co-op community meet today’s challenges, this podcast equips boards with practical tools to succeed. Future episodes will feature industry-leading guests and questions from the greater co-op community. Follow us on LinkedIn to join the conversation!
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Jun 30, 2026
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41 | I Voted No. Now What? 30.06.2026 31:18
In this episode of Build Better Boards, hosts Dr. Keri Jacobs, Richard Fagerlin, and Mitch Majeski explore what a director owes the board after voting no. Agreement and alignment are different jobs: Agreement is a yes or no on the decision itself. Alignment is the commitment to carry that decision forward as your own once the board has made it, which the hosts tie directly to fiduciary duty. Align...
40 | What Would Have to Be True? Growth Through a Principled Lens: Part II 15.06.2026 39:06
In this episode of Build Better Boards, hosts Mitch Majeski, Dr. Keri Jacobs, and Richard Fagerlin continue the principled-lens series that began in Episode 39, "Growth Through a Principled Lens: Part I." The conversation widens from growth to how a board can pressure-test any progressive decision without slowing it down. All seven principles, as a decision lens: Keri lays out the full s...
39 | Growth Through a Principled Lens: Part I 01.06.2026 24:33
In this episode of Build Better Boards, hosts Dr. Keri Jacobs and Richard Fagerlin open a new series on running strategic decisions through the lens of the seven cooperative principles, using growth as the entry point. The dual mandate: Co-op leaders carry two responsibilities at once: running a competitive, sustainable business and maintaining a member-centric enterprise grounded in principles. H...
38 | Accountability, Strategy, Risk: Byron Enix on Getting Board Work Right 19.05.2026 47:43
In this episode of Build Better Boards, host Richard Fagerlin talks with Byron Enix (retired President & CEO, American AgCredit) about what boards owe their organizations before, during, and after a CEO transition. The three real jobs of a director: Accountability, strategy, and risk. Get those right and CEO selection becomes the natural outcome of good governance. Build the playbook before yo...
37 | CEO Succession: Six Reasons to Start Now (and Five Things in Your Way) 04.05.2026 35:28
In this episode of Build Better Boards, hosts Dr. Keri Jacobs and Richard Fagerlin dig into CEO succession planning, using Egon Zehnder's article "CEO Succession Planning for Tomorrow's Success" as a launch point for what boards should actually be doing right now. Succession is not search: Search is the moment you pick someone. Succession is everything that happens in the years...
36 | From Model to Movement: Reframing to Engage the Next Generation. 20.04.2026 52:42
In this episode of Build Better Boards, host Dr. Keri Jacobs talks with Sylandi Brown (Manager of Communications and Administration, Middle Georgia EMC) about why the cooperative is better understood as a movement than a model, and what that shift means for how boards recruit, govern, and engage the next generation. Movement, not model: A model is something you apply. A movement is something you p...
35 | Managing vs. Governing Board Mindset 07.04.2026 26:04
In this episode of Build Better Boards, Richard Fagerlin, Mitch Majeski, and Dr. Keri Jacobs dig into a question that shows up in boardrooms all the time: when is a board governing, and when is it slipping into management? Using a framework Keri has been sharing with boards, the conversation offers a practical way to assess where a board is spending its time and whether that time is being used in...
34 | 5 Practices for Sustaining Momentum Between Board Meetings 24.03.2026 35:36
In this episode of Build Better Boards, hosts Richard Fagerlin and Dr. Keri Jacobs explore how boards can maintain momentum between meetings instead of resetting progress each time they convene. They share five practical practices to help boards stay aligned, engaged, and proactive throughout the year. Clear ownership after decisions ensures follow-through by defining what was decided, what succes...
33 | Rewrite Your Agenda 09.03.2026 40:18
In this episode of Build Better Boards , Dr. Keri Jacobs, Richard Fagerlin, and Mitch Majeski discuss how board agendas shape the mindset and behavior of cooperative boards. They explore how many agendas unintentionally reinforce a managing mindset and share practical ways boards can redesign agendas to encourage more strategic governance. Agendas often become copy-and-paste routines that reinfor...
32 | Working Genius in the Boardroom 23.02.2026 32:44
In this episode of the Build Better Boards podcast, Dr. Keri Jacobs, Richard Fagerlin, and Mitch Majeski explore how the Working Genius assessment can strengthen board governance. They discuss how understanding directors’ natural strengths and frustrations improves agenda discipline, decision clarity, and healthy oversight. Working Genius looks different in a boardroom than on a management team. D...
31 | Board Development Basics 09.02.2026 33:04
In this episode of Build Better Boards, Mitch Majeski, Dr. Keri Jacobs and Richard Fagerlin discuss practical strategies for integrating board development into the regular cadence of board meetings. They explore how directors and board chairs can foster continuous learning, build shared perspective, and support new members without relying solely on outside consultants or formal events. Bite-sized,...
30 | Why Is Board Work So Hard? 26.01.2026 35:31
In this episode of Build Better Boards , hosts Mitch Majeski, Dr. Keri Jacobs and Richard Fagerlin explore the often-unspoken challenges that make board work more difficult than it appears. They examine why even well-intentioned, committed directors can struggle to find alignment and move forward together. Misunderstandings around what it means to “represent” members can create confusion and misa...
29 | Season 3 Recap: What We Learned on CEO Selection and Succession 08.12.2025 32:28
In this episode of Build Better Boards, the team recaps their season-long focus on CEO succession and evaluation. They reflect on why these topics matter even when a transition is not imminent and how the processes and questions explored can strengthen boards and cooperatives overall. CEO succession and evaluation are not just “event” activities; treating them as ongoing processes helps boards cla...
28 | Do CEO Evaluations Actually Work? (Part 2) 24.11.2025 37:14
In part two of this conversation on CEO evaluations, Dr. Keri Jacobs and Richard Fagerlin continue with guests Kevin Berchelmann and CEO Jason Brancel to explore how boards and CEOs build a process that is clear, fair, and genuinely useful. We discuss how: Boards should clarify what they’re measuring, whom they’re hearing from, and how they’ll gather and synthesize input. Expectations and criteria...
27 | Do CEO Evaluations Actually Work? (Part 1) 10.11.2025 33:26
In this episode of Build Better Boards , hosts Dr. Keri Jacobs and Richard Fagerlin talk with guests Kevin Berchelmann and Jason Brancel about one of the board’s most important responsibilities—evaluating the CEO. This is part one of a two-part conversation exploring why evaluations matter, how to make them meaningful, and how boards and CEOs can turn the process into an ongoing, productive dialog...
26 | Year in Review 27.10.2025 51:14
In this episode of Build Better Boards , hosts Dr. Keri Jacobs, Richard Fagerlin, and Mitch Majeski reflect on insights from a year of podcast episodes. They explore shifts in board dynamics, director behavior, and leadership expectations, sharing how boards can remain effective in a complex environment. Big G (governance) and little g (culture) must develop together for boards to thrive. Director...
25 | "The Nick Saban Effect" 13.10.2025 44:10
In this episode, hosts Richard Fagerlin and Dr. Keri Jacobs explore why top talent leaves and how boards can know whether turnover is a healthy sign of growth, or a warning signal. They introduce the “coaching tree” concept that highlights the power of developing leaders who, in turn, grow more leaders. Learn how to reframe turnover as launching leaders as part of building a thriving leadership pi...
24 | From Start to Finish. Part III of our Panel Discussion on Executive Search 29.09.2025 41:06
In the third and final episode of our executive search series, hosts Mitch Majeski, Dr. Keri Jacobs, and Richard Fagerlin continue the conversation with John Wright (Kincannon & Reed), Kevin Drury (Hedlin Ag Enterprises), and Leigh Taylor (NRECA). Together, they explore how boards can navigate their most important decision: hiring the next CEO. • Discuss when and how to keep staff and members...
23 | No Unicorns: Navigating the Realities of CEO Searches. 15.09.2025 31:11
In this episode of Build Better Boards , hosts Richard Fagerlin, and Dr. Keri Jacobs continue their conversation with John Wright (Kincannon & Reed), Kevin Drury (Hedlin Ag Enterprises), and Leigh Taylor (NRECA). The panel explores how boards should navigate internal versus external candidates, the importance of succession planning, and the common pitfalls that can derail a CEO search. Interna...
22 | The Headhunter Dilemma. Part I of our Panel Discussion on Executive Search 02.09.2025 50:33
In this episode of Build Better Boards, hosts Dr. Keri Jacobs and Richard Fagerlin—joined by host Mitch Majeski—kick off a three-part panel on CEO succession and executive search. Guests John Wright (Kincannon & Reed), Kevin Drury (Hedlin Ag Enterprises), and Leigh Taylor (NRECA) unpack why boards mistrust “headhunting,” how retained vs. contingency models differ, and what it takes to run a di...
21 | Wartime vs. Peacetime CEOs 18.08.2025 28:20
In this episode of Build Better Boards , hosts Dr. Keri Jacobs and Richard Fagerlin join Mitch Mojewski to discuss how boards can recognize whether their organization needs a “wartime” or “peacetime” CEO. They explore the traits required for each type of leadership, the circumstances that may trigger a shift, and how boards can prepare for and respond to these changing organizational needs. Wartim...
20 | Inside or Outside? The Succession Debate 04.08.2025 37:16
In this episode of Build Better Boards , host Mitch Majeski is joined by Dr. Keri Jacobs and Richard Fagerlin to discuss the strategic considerations boards face when choosing between internal and external candidates for CEO succession. They examine the pros, cons, and nuances of each option and emphasize the importance of a thoughtful and rigorous selection process. Key Discussion Points: Interna...
19 | Succession Planning and the New CEO “Avatar” 21.07.2025 38:48
In this episode of Build Better Boards , hosts Dr. Keri Jacobs and Richard Fagerlin examine how boards can keep CEO-succession plans alive and relevant. They distinguish emergency “hit-by-the-beer-truck” scenarios from long-term leadership development, and explain why creating a forward-looking CEO “avatar” helps boards hire the right leader when the time comes. Differentiate an emergency response...
18 | Season 3 Kickoff: CEO Selection and Succession Planning 07.07.2025 35:27
In this episode of Build Better Boards , hosts Dr. Keri Jacobs and Richard Fagerlin launch Season 3 with a focus on one of the board’s most critical responsibilities: selecting and supporting the CEO. Prompted by listener feedback and insights from a recent survey of CEOs, they explore how boards can better prepare for CEO transitions and strengthen their leadership acumen. The season will explore...
17 | Future-Proofing Finale: Member Engagement & Future-Ready Boards 16.06.2025 52:22
In this season-closing episode of Build Better Boards , hosts Dr. Keri Jacobs and Richard Fagerlin reflect on Season 2’s “future-proofing” theme through a candid conversation with Courtney Berner, Executive Director of the University of Wisconsin Center for Cooperatives. Together they examine how boards can stay resilient by strengthening member connections, clarifying governance roles, and foster...
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