Drew McLellan
Build a Better Agency Podcast
Scale and grow your agency with better clients, invested employees, and a stronger bottom line, with Drew McLellan.
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Jul 5, 2026
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EP 486: Inside the world and benefits of agency book writing and publishing with Shadley Grei 27.01.2025 44:54
Agency book writing and publishing can seem like a daunting mountain to climb. But with the right people to help you through the process, it can be one of the best things you can do to uplevel your thought leadership efforts. That's why this week, I invited Shadley Grei, an agency book publishing expert and newer member of AMI, onto the show to share how agency owners can start thinking about wri...
EP 485: It's time to heal from post-COVID agency owner grief with Drew McLellan 20.01.2025 37:06
I wanted to wait until after the holidays to talk about this topic because it's a bit heavier than what we usually talk about on the show. But it's something that Danyel and I have noticed weighing heavily on a lot of you since COVID, and that is agency owner grief. It's true that many of you have experienced quite a lot of loss and change these past few years — with the way we work, how well ou...
EP 484: Tapping into non-obvious thinking and thought leadership in 2025 with Rohit Bhargava 13.01.2025 50:07
Many agency owners feel like their clients are putting them in a box of specific skills they're able to perform for them. And for many of us, that's not a good feeling. We're wired to think creatively and break free from that metaphorical box, but it can be hard to communicate that to our clients in a sea of competition. So, it's time to break out of that box in 2025. That means we need fresh ide...
EP 483: How to get more involved in your agency finances in 2025 with Sandy Catour 06.01.2025 56:57
Almost no agency owner got into the agency world for their passion for bookkeeping. And if you did — great! You're several steps ahead of most of us. But the reality is, most of us are just happy to keep cash in the bank for payroll and probably aren't looking at the finances as much as we should be. Sandy Catour joined me this week to share why we should rewire this habit. Agency owners should b...
EP 482: How extraordinary thinking leads to extraordinary agency growth with Tori Boats 30.12.2024 56:24
Agency growth and biz dev can feel like an uphill battle when we're already so tired, overworked, and burnt out. But it doesn't have to be hard or add anything extra on our already full to-do lists. In fact, it shouldn't be difficult at all. Tori Boats joined me this week to help close out the year on a high note and show us that setting our agencies up for exponential growth in 2025 doesn't have...
EP 481: Celebrating the joy that comes with agency ownership with Drew McLellan 23.12.2024 18:37
Agency ownership can leave us stressed, burnt out, and sometimes, thinking the grass is greener somewhere else. But when you really sit back and think about it, we have it pretty good — we just lose sight of it sometimes. So this week, I'm finishing off the year with another solo episode to really sit down and take stock of what it is about agency ownership that makes it so special compared to ot...
EP 480: What I'd do differently as an agency owner if I started over in 2025 with Drew McLellan 16.12.2024 29:34
As we round the bend into the new year, I'm reflecting on the lessons learned from my time as an agency owner and the insights I've gained from working with hundreds of agencies. While there are too many to count, I'm going to try to boil down my experiences into a few points that I hope you can take into 2025 as you start to think about what you want the next year to look like for your agency. T...
EP 479: Embracing agency entrepreneurship to work on the business, not in the business with Michael E. Gerber 09.12.2024 1:13:21
To grow the agency, agency owners need to be working on the business, not working in it. That means we have to accept that it's time to get out of the day-to-day and embrace agency entrepreneurship as business leaders. Michael E. Gerber, author of The E-Myth and renowned business guru, joined us today to share some profound lessons for agency owners to uplevel their businesses and stop getting st...
EP 478: Everything agency owners need to know about their account executives with Lori Highby 02.12.2024 51:03
Account executives are critical for agency profitability and success. Without them, we wouldn't have anybody responsible for building deeper trust with clients and growing their accounts. That's why we've brought Lori Highby on the show this week to share everything she knows about the account executive role. Some of you might recognize her from the AE Bootcamps she teaches at, and she's here to b...
EP 477: Take the sabbatical — why agency owners need to unplug with Louise Oliver 25.11.2024 53:06
This one is going to be hard for most agency owners to hear, but you need to take a sabbatical — or a vacation or any amount of time off where you completely unplug from the agency. No Slack, no email, no phone calls. Nothing. Most of you just got really uncomfortable reading that statement, but it's absolutely necessary if you want your agency to grow. In fact, not taking time off could be stifli...
EP 476: How fractional employees are shaping the future of agency culture with Sara Daw 18.11.2024 50:10
The future of work is becoming more fractional. Instead of full-time, in-house teams doing all the work — how many of us grew up in the agency world — fractional employees like contractors and freelancers can take on more and more complex roles for us. With remote and hybrid work still on the rise, we can leverage fractional employees to bring a more diverse portfolio of skills to the agency witho...
EP 475: Thinking holistically about agency employee compensation, benefits, and perks with Drew McLellan 11.11.2024 39:37
Many agency owners reported in 2024 that one of the best things about their agencies are their employees. Despite continued biz dev struggles and slow sales cycles, agency owners have had a hard time shrinking their teams because they just love them that much. So, this week, let's talk about some of the ways we can think about agency employee compensation more holistically to show them our gratitu...
EP 474: Laying cobblestones for effective agency thought leadership with Susan Baier 04.11.2024 59:39
It's no secret that new business for agencies was brutal in 2023. And for some in 2024, it's been equally difficult. So, for 2025, we want to challenge you to get unstuck from those difficult sales cycles and lay the groundwork for some new energy as we come to the end of this year. This week, Susan Baier joined me again to help us look at the agency sales cycle a little differently. Next year, it...
EP 473: The benefits and challenges of hiring for a COO role with Carolyn Lodge 28.10.2024 54:12
With more agency owners wanting to step out of the agency's day-to-day operations to focus more on being the company's visionary leader, there are many areas of the business that can sometimes go overlooked. To remedy this, many agencies are embracing the COO role to help keep things running smoothly. With the fast growth of this role comes many questions, which we will answer in today's episode....
EP 472: Defining what agency growth means to you and setting the path to achieve it with Marquel Russell 21.10.2024 41:58
This is a topic we've covered many times before, but it's an important one. When was the last time you checked in with yourself about what agency growth really means to you? It can be more than just adding more team members and physically growing and expanding the agency. It can also mean growing your AGI, getting higher paying clients, more interesting projects, more name recognition, or more fre...
EP 471: How agency owners can be more effective in creating transformational change with Tamsen Webster 14.10.2024 52:28
As agency owners, we're perpetual change-makers, striving to affect real and sustained transformation not just in our clients' lives, but also in our own. But as we all know, creating transformational, lasting change within the agency can be an uphill battle. Humans are hardwired to resist change because it can feel unsafe. So when we want to change our day-to-day operations, revise a strategy wit...
EP 470: The agency owner life plan for legacy-building and getting out of agency owner fatigue with Drew McLellan 07.10.2024 38:36
Your business should serve your lifestyle — not the other way around. Many agency owners got into the industry because it affords them a lifestyle and freedom most people dream of. But it's easy to lose sight of that when the business gets overwhelming and we fall into agency owner fatigue. For this week's solocast, I want to do a deep dive into one of the ways we help agency owners sort out this...
EP 469: What agency leaders want and need from agency owners with Del Esparza 30.09.2024 46:04
Agency leaders have some of the most important roles in the agency. They're key team members supporting the agency owner in the agency's day-to-day operations and taking on roles that allow the agency owner to focus on business development and other key tasks. The truth is, it can be a lonely position. As agency owners, we need to consistently work on being more supportive to these key leaders — w...
EP 468: What we get wrong about agency proposals and how to fix it with Emily Shapiro & Robin Boehler 23.09.2024 44:03
Agency owners and leaders are no strangers to proposal writing. But despite our vast experience, there are things we still get wrong, and there is always something we can improve — especially as the industry shifts and changes so quickly. I got to sit down with Robin Boehler and Emily Shapiro from Mercer Island Group to talk about the often-overlooked pitfalls in our agency proposals. This convers...
EP 467: Using systems and processes to make better decisions for the agency with Misty Larkins 16.09.2024 58:25
When I was an agency employee, I admittedly hated being told what to do or how to do it. So naturally, systems and processes really rubbed me the wrong way. Now, as an agency owner, I've learned to embrace the same systems and processes I used to rebel against because I know they help me run my agency better. Despite how constricting they can feel at first, they're there to help you get a zoomed-o...
EP 466: Building relationships that attract right-fit clients to you with Matthew Kimberley 09.09.2024 51:31
Finding right-fit clients is one of the never-ending juggling acts of agency ownership. We need to keep the pipeline full, but we don't want to rely only on referrals or say yes to clients who don't fit our niche or values. The solution lies in how you build and maintain relationships. Not just any type of relationship — relationships that are aligned with the mission, vision, and values of the ag...
EP 465: The five things agency owners do that block agency growth with Drew McLellan 02.09.2024 38:52
Every agency should be able to run at 20% profitability on a consistent basis. But as agency owners, sometimes we get in our own way and become the bottleneck to our agency growth. For this week's solocast, I'm breaking down the five biggest things agency owners do to stifle their agency's growth. Whether it's not being able to get out of the day-to-day operations, or not trusting what your number...
EP 464: Merging storytelling with sales for decreased sales cycles with Stephen Steers 26.08.2024 44:50
For many agency owners, sales is a necessary evil. For others, it's your natural gift, and you look forward to doing it. Either way, you can always benefit from making it easier and better for you. One of the biggest benefits we cover in today's episode is shortening the sales cycle. Many agencies struggled with elongated sales cycles last year, but that doesn't need to become par for the course....
EP 463: Successful podcasting from the audience's perspective with Tom Webster 19.08.2024 53:08
We've spoken before about how podcasting is a great tool for building an audience that sees you as a thought leader. That's still true, but simply having a podcast is not enough. To truly be successful in podcasting, you must know how to engage that audience and be worthy of their time. As our guest Tom Weber says, "You don't have a right to have an audience." An audience must be earned. Tom share...
EP 462: Niching and thought leadership — the most critical components of biz dev with Susan Quinn 12.08.2024 37:50
As agency owners, we're always looking for ways to improve our business development strategies and stand out in a crowded marketplace. This week, I'm flipping the script and sharing an episode where I was a guest on Susan Quinn's podcast, Better Experiences by Design . Susan asks some great questions to help get to the bottom of the two main biz dev strategies modern agencies can count on today —...
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