Drew McLellan
Build a Better Agency Podcast
Scale and grow your agency with better clients, invested employees, and a stronger bottom line, with Drew McLellan.
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Jul 5, 2026
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EP 237: What agencies don't know about the PPP loan program with Stephen Katz 20.04.2020 53:03
Agency owners are scrambling to take advantage of the CARES Act, and in particular the Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) loans but there's a lot we don't know because there's a lot that is not set in stone. There is a total lack of clarity around this how the PPP works – from application all the way through repayment and potential forgiveness. The 800-page act says one thing and the SBA says ano...
EP 236: Lead your agency through difficult times and remote working with Adam Carroll 13.04.2020 1:01:38
Agency owners wear many hats and certainly one of the most important is leader. There are days when that's easy and even fun. And then, there are days like the ones we've been having lately, when the weight of that role can get pretty heavy. Our employees need us to guide them through these uncharted waters. And to do that, we need to stay calm, confident and compassionate. But how do you do that...
EP 235: A very personal message to agency owners – how to survive the Covid chaos with Drew McLellan 06.04.2020 44:54
Odds are you cannot remember a more tumultuous time in your agency. You probably endured through 9/11 but we understood what happened and why. You probably survived the 07-08 recession but we saw it coming and had time to plan and adjust. Covid-19 brings a rare and overwhelming combination of a health scare, human isolation, and an economic shutdown all in one fell swoop. No wonder you're feeling...
EP 234: Surviving the pandemic – where will your agency be in 60-90 days? with Kiri Sinclair 30.03.2020 1:10:24
US and European based agency owners are fightly vigilantly as the coronavirus pandemic unfolds in their region of the world. It's affecting agencies and their clients in significant ways. I've been talking to agency owners non-stop for the last two weeks and one thing is for sure – one agency's experience is not like another's. For some, business and AGI has never been better. In others, 50% of th...
EP 233: How to grow your agency using creative collaboration with James Carbary 23.03.2020 1:01:21
Today's episode is a twofer – and both topics are going to benefit your shop. The first is the idea of collaborating with your prospects to create content that is valuable for both of you. From there you can leverage that shared experience to create new opportunities for your agency. The second is how you can write that book you've been thinking about, despite how overloaded your calendar and life...
EP 232: Getting your agency to the other side of the coronavirus with Drew McLellan 16.03.2020 42:19
There's not a small business owner on the planet who isn't concerned about how the coronavirus is going to impact their business, employees, clients, and family. Those worries are complicated by the fact that this is also a health risk to those you love. I can't help with the health risk part – but I can help ease your fears about your business. We're going to survive this together and in this epi...
EP 231: Agency Owners | Leveraging psychology to improve agency sales with Charlie Poulson 09.03.2020 47:58
The more you know about a person, the easier it is to connect with them. One of the challenges when it comes to biz dev is that we really don't know too much about the prospect we're trying to build a relationship with, especially in the early stages of the sales pitch. But what if there was a way for you to gain those insights even if you've never met them in person? Charlie Poulson's first job o...
EP 230: Agency Owners | Using Traction to scale and strengthen your agency with Drew McLellan 02.03.2020 52:08
Many agency owners are familiar with the book Traction by Gino Wickman and his Entrepreneurial Operating System. It's a fantastic methodology for improving your agency's ability to scale effectively, growing a leadership team and building a more sustainable, profitable agency. If you implement Traction properly. Otherwise, it can be a huge waste of time and money. Traction" is not just a book — it...
EP 229: Agencies should sell with authority with Stephen Woessner 24.02.2020 49:47
I have long preached the concept of being a specialist versus a generalist to my audience, so it should come as no surprise to you that along with my co-author Stephen Woessner, CEO of Predictive ROI, I have just written a book on the subject. Sell With Authority is a playbook for agency new business efforts that will allow you to shorten your sales cycle, increase your pricing and profitability a...
EP 228: Growing your agency from 5 to 200+ with Robert Glazer 17.02.2020 49:52
Robert Glazer is the founder and CEO of Acceleration Partners, a global marketing agency that specializes in partner or affiliate marketing. Initially, I planned on spending our time debunking the myths around affiliate marketing space (which we still covered), but our conversation took an interesting turn and instead we focused on Acceleration Partners' growth journey. Robert described the transf...
EP 227: Trend worth tracking for agency owners with Rohit Bhargava 10.02.2020 51:55
We get hired because our clients want to surround themselves with expertise and a depth of knowledge that they don't have in-house. They know we have to stay current on the trends shaping our business and theirs if we want to remain relevant. But in a rapidly evolving marketplace, it's challenging to stay ahead of the curve. Rohit Bhargava and his Non-obvious book series has been a go-to resource...
EP 226: Agencies and accounting can be friends with Chris Hervochon 03.02.2020 49:20
Most of us didn't major in math or accounting. In fact, many of us were drawn to our industry because it wasn't math centric! Unfortunately, agency leaders are not math exempt. Without proper financial data, it's impossible to successfully run a profitable agency. This means your accounting partner, in-house or not, should be your constant companion. Many agencies are exploring an outsourced accou...
EP 225: Strengthen your agency's hiring process with Drew McLellan 27.01.2020 39:05
It doesn't matter if you are a small shop, a specialized shop, in a major market, or based in rural areas – odds are, your biggest struggle right now is attracting and retaining talent. Many agency owners are losing sleep over staffing up or even worse, losing one of their key players. Interestingly, how you're hiring may be one of the reasons your tenured employees are giving notice. Right now, e...
EP 224: Agency culture redefined with John Waid 20.01.2020 48:57
Culture matters. As agency owners and leaders, we get that. And we love creating a "great culture." But, developing a great culture is about more than beer o'clock and having a ping pong table. Yes, fun is important. But if you want to attract and retain the top talent in your industry, that alone is not going to cut it. John Waid of Corporate Culture Consulting joins us on this episode of Build A...
EP 223: Find your agency's next leader with Craig Barnes 13.01.2020 57:34
Biz dev, mentorship, and relationship management are critical responsibilities of every agency owner. But the hours in a workday are limited, and if we fail to delegate with confidence, the work that is uniquely ours will not get done. It's just too easy to get sucked into client work or internal issues that we shouldn't be focused on. Every agency owner needs a #1 who walks, talks, and leads like...
EP 222 : Productize your agency's offerings with Jared Gold 06.01.2020 55:55
One of the challenges of agency life is that typically everything we sell is a custom job. It's tough to build in efficiencies or systemize our production when we never make the same deliverable twice. But it doesn't have to be that way. Back in Episode 100 , we discussed the idea of structuring your agency as a wonder bread factory vs. an artisanal bakery and there are different pros and cons for...
EP 221: Increase your agency's value and build a smart exit strategy with Gina Cocking 30.12.2019 50:05
Most agency owners hope to sell their agency someday down the road. If that's you, understanding how agencies are valuated today will help you maximize that opportunity whenever it comes. Even if you aren't interested in selling, you can and should still be beefing up your agency's value. Gina Cocking joins us for this episode to provide an investment banker's perspective on the valuation and sale...
EP 220: Strengthen your core and the core of your agency with Drew McLellan 23.12.2019 44:30
Maybe it's my age, but there's a lot more talk about the importance of strengthening my core, to improve balance and stability. The same is true for our agencies. Our reality is always a bit unstable and we often expend a lot of energy anticipating the next storm. But if your agency's core is strong, you can rest a little easier, knowing you can weather whatever comes. Just like you have for years...
EP 219: A year of reflection and growth for agency leaders with John Jantsch 16.12.2019 47:21
There was a time when you spent most of your time learning your craft. Whether it was account service or art direction or biz dev – you had to develop the skills to do your job well. There's no doubt that our world demands on-going education so we can continue to serve our clients. But at this point in your career, you have the luxury of focusing on something a bit deeper — developing yourself as...
EP 218: How agency owners can leverage a virtual assistant with Jess Tyson 09.12.2019 58:30
Have you ever wished that you had a team member dedicated to helping manage your day, your email, your commitments, and your goals? When we have someone in the office, they often get usurped by other teams or the crisis of the day. That's one of the many advantages of working with a virtual assistant. Many agency owners are enjoying added productivity and peace of mind that comes with someone alwa...
EP 217: The buying journey of your agency's prospects with Robin Boehler 02.12.2019 53:48
Like every other consumer, your prospects go on a wild and winding journey as they consider whether or not they want to hire an agency and then go about finding that perfect partner. It's amazing to me that many agencies teach their clients about buying journeys and yet don't really understand what their prospects go through as they go to market. Robin and Steve Boehler are the principals at Merce...
EP 216: Using AI to support your agency's content strategy with Jeff Coyle 25.11.2019 58:45
There are very few agencies today who aren't trying to solve the content challenge. The content creation process is complicated and it's often difficult to demonstrate the ROI to clients so they will pay you what it takes to actually create something worthwhile. Clients want high performing content but aren't excited about paying for it. And it can be tough for us to document and demonstrate what'...
EP 215: Recession-proof your agency with Drew McLellan 18.11.2019 47:10
For the last decade, I have been living in the perfect home. I love everything about it— from the size and layout to its waterfront location. I thought I would never move again. But everything changed when I adopted my charcoal lab puppy, Heather. Heather is about four months old right now and she already exceeds the 30lb weight limit for pets, according to our homeowner's association. It's safe t...
EP 214: Why public speaking skills matter to agency owners with Michael Port 11.11.2019 1:04:32
You are agency owners, not career keynote speakers. But that does not mean you don't earn your living as a presenter. You present every day of your professional lives. You hold one-on-one meetings in your office and lead all-agency meetings. Some of you are speaking at conferences and tradeshows as well. By sharing your expertise, teaching, and demonstrating that you know your stuff, you will crea...
EP 213: Set your agency apart with Tamsen Webster 04.11.2019 57:02
With so many people that have yet to join us on the show, I very rarely ask someone to come back on. But Tamsen Webster is an exception. You may remember episode 61 , where Tamsen joined us to talk about speaking at conferences and tradeshows as a biz dev strategy. This time, we are going to take a different tack because Tamsen has been pretty busy since we last spoke. Every day, I talk to agency...
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