Drew McLellan
Build a Better Agency Podcast
Scale and grow your agency with better clients, invested employees, and a stronger bottom line, with Drew McLellan.
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Jul 5, 2026
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EP 337: Helping agency owners sell the way people buy, with David Priemer 21.03.2022 43:57
As agency owners, we tend to view sales as a necessary evil. Even when we love what we do, believe in how we do it, and have proof that we do it well, having to put on our "sales hats" can still feel, well, gross. But…maybe we're going about getting those sales in the wrong way. Nobody likes sales…except for David Priemer. David loves sales. In fact, he loves sales so much that he opted to leave h...
EP 336: Harnessing the power of introvert agency leaders with Monica Parkin 14.03.2022 46:06
Like so many other business environments, our industry is one that is undeniably extroverted on the surface. Agency work is collaborative, relational, creative, and dynamic — all attributes that seem to be catered almost exclusively to extroverted individuals. So where does that leave our introverted counterparts? Monica Parkin, my guest for this episode, is not only an award-winning public speake...
EP 335: How to attract and retain agency employees, with Drew McLellan 07.03.2022 38:24
Today, we're delving into a topic that's been on my mind, and on the minds of agency owners in general, for quite some time: employees. No matter where you are or how big your agency is, staffing is a challenge for everyone right now. Every time the subject comes up during my conversations with agency owners, there are two frustrations in particular that bubble to the surface time and time again:...
EP 334: New year insights for agency relationships with Lee McKnight 28.02.2022 53:46
The last few years have thrown a lot at us — both professionally and personally. While we've done our best to navigate all of that unpredictability, many have struggled to not only react to these changes but adapt. As agencies continue to reframe and take stock of where we're at in this "new normal," I can't think of a better time to dive into some impressive research just released in RSW/US's 202...
EP 333: Rethinking your agency's sales model with Kevin Snow 21.02.2022 44:24
For an industry that is heavily dependent on effective sales practices, many agency owners are intimidated by the "s" word. It conjures horrible imagery of vacuum salesmen trying to trick people into making purchases they don't actually want or need. Hiring sales teams might seem like the right step but the results are often disappointing and it's difficult to pinpoint exactly why. This can turn o...
EP 332: Rethinking agency biz dev part 6: Play to win, with Drew McLellan 14.02.2022 48:50
Business development is a complicated and challenging aspect of agency life for many owners. The same rules that applied when the agency was new no longer apply once it starts to settle into its identity. But what is that identity, and how can it best be leveraged for business growth? And what if you want to shift that identity to better define how you want to be seen and known? After five episo...
EP 331: Rethinking agency biz dev part 5: Focus your agency's POV, with Drew McLellan 07.02.2022 36:13
Agency life has evolved dramatically since the era portrayed in shows like Mad Men . We used to be the keepers of the "secret sauce" for making the magic happen, and now we're the keepers of the secret knowledge for using that magic to its greatest potential. Agencies used to be expected to be generalists, but now clients and prospects are looking for specialists with a depth of strategic experti...
EP 330: How to grow your book of business with Drew McLellan 31.01.2022 26:23
Agency business development has to consider many things when setting goals. There is new business to be found, existing business to expand, and lost business to make up for. It can be difficult to juggle all of this information as the agency owner, but it can be challenging for an agency's AEs who aren't clear on how to best leverage their position. Today's episode continues the series dedicated t...
EP 329: Rethinking agency biz dev part 3: The 6 kisses of death to avoid, with Drew McLellan 24.01.2022 34:04
Agencies often pose important questions to our clients in order to help steer them into good decision-making. We talk to them about the need to be findable, to understand the customer's buying journey, to be helpful to clients instead of selling to them, and being aware of how far prospects are into the buying decision by the time the client is actually aware the prospect exists. We are great at t...
EP 328: Rethinking agency biz dev part 2: How things evolve with Drew McLellan 17.01.2022 37:54
During the lifetime of an agency, how that agency/agency owner approaches business development evolves. In the beginning, an agency's first clients are people the agency owner knows personally. From there, as the agency matures and grows, it morphs into working with people who have been referred to the agency by happy clients. Many agencies never evolve past this level of business development. It...
EP 327: Rethinking agency biz dev part 1: Find a niche with Drew McLellan 10.01.2022 51:36
As we start to dip our toes into 2022, many agencies have been pretty quiet on the biz dev front for the last 4-6 weeks. By the time we emerge from the holiday hibernation, we're approaching February and our pipeline is feeling a little weak. I decided to help you jump-start your agency biz dev efforts with a series of podcast conversations just between you and me. I've decided to mix things up...
EP 326: A ground level look at marketing AI with Cathy McPhillips 03.01.2022 47:45
There's no denying that artificial intelligence isn't just part of the future, it's here today. But the concept is overwhelming for many agency owners. It's hard to know where to begin when you don't even know what questions to ask or how to find answers, especially when you are already pulled in so many directions every day. Who has time to add learning something as complex as AI to their TO-DO l...
EP 325: Stop running your agency based on fear, with Drew McLellan 27.12.2021 42:07
In response to the changes brought about by the pandemic, many agency owners have turned to fear-based decision-making. Employee turnover and demands coupled with an erratic market and global uncertainty can make things feel out of control. Trying to steer an agency with a vision requires decision-making that might put you at odds with your team so it might feel wise to placate rather than push. B...
EP 324: How young people think about the agency business with Michael Barber 20.12.2021 53:22
Diversity and inclusion have never been more front and center and the workplace is being called upon to better reflect the world around us, especially by our younger employees and potential employees. Agencies are trying to do their part, but many are feeling lost because they simply don't know what they don't know. If we want to continue to attract young talent, we have to crack this code. Over a...
EP 323: Be vigilant against complacency with Len Herstein 13.12.2021 56:36
When things are going well in our agencies and our personal lives, it's easy to relax into the comfort of that success. One of the risks of that comfort is missing the signs that trouble is brewing below the surface. There's a difference between living in fear and anticipating challenges. No one is suggesting we live a life of paranoia where we're constantly waiting for things to fall apart, but a...
EP 322: The 2021 Agency Edge Research Series with Susan Baier 06.12.2021 45:32
Understanding how clients view the agency relationship is key to making the most of that partnership. Every year since 2014, AMI and Audience Audit have brought you The Agency Edge Research Series to hopefully give helpful insights into what clients and prospects are looking for when working with agencies. The 2020 research correctly indicated that 2021 was going to be very robust for agency busin...
EP 321: How to use your money to make more money with Adam Carroll 29.11.2021 44:48
Everyone wants to make and have more money but understanding all the available financial options and opportunities can be overwhelming. Many agency owners are juggling debt, income, personal and professional mortgages, and complex investment plans, most of which are managed by advice we were given by our parents when we were young. We've heard of ways to use our money to make money, but it all sou...
EP 320: The elements of good partnership agreements with Drew McLellan 22.11.2021 42:40
As part of our succession planning work, we have seen and worked with owners going through every stage of agency life. We've seen agencies evolve and dissolve and there are complexities along the way regardless of the journey. One of the most complicated relationships can be between partners, whether that be partners who own and run an agency together, or an agency owner who is transitioning to se...
EP 319: Winning the long game with Dorie Clark 15.11.2021 52:27
As agency owners and leaders, we all want to succeed at the long game. We plan and work with the hope that it will lead to long-term success. But it can be difficult to hang in there when faced with uncertainty, and we constantly wonder which bets are going to pay off and when we need to pivot. Fear can paralyze us or force us to make decisions that undermine a potential payoff because it all feel...
EP 318: Building a client-focused community with Pam Slim 08.11.2021 43:56
Putting yourself in the center of a community is a powerful tool for any agency owner, but that just scratches the surface of what is possible — if you make one small tweak. Imagine putting your client at the center of a community instead of yourself. An ecosystem of businesses, experts, and tools, all designed to help your clients become even more successful. This shift allows us to completely re...
EP 317: R&D tax credits available to agencies with Mike D'Alessandro 01.11.2021 56:30
The federal government and 36 of 50 states in the U.S. have research and development tax credits that many agency owners incorrectly believe our agencies are not eligible to receive. In reality, many AMI agencies take full advantage of these credits, sometimes earning back in excess of $100,000 a year. Needless to say, it's important for your agency to explore whether or not you are eligible for t...
EP 316: Building a DEI policy that works with Nikki McCord 25.10.2021 1:03:41
The conversation of diversity, equity, and inclusion and DEI policy creation is something on the minds of many agency owners. How to tackle such a delicate and complicated topic can be overwhelming and confusing. The fear of getting it wrong or not doing enough can lead to no action at all, which we can all agree does nothing to further the cause. But how exactly do we begin and how do we get it r...
EP 315: Five mistakes employees make when buying into the agency with Drew McLellan 18.10.2021 26:38
At Agency Management Institute, we are often called upon to help agency owners plan their next steps when it comes time to sell. This may lead to the owner wanting to hand the reins to a current employee that has proven to be the right person to take over owning and running the agency. There are challenges that the seller has to contend with, but there are just as many challenges, and mistakes, th...
EP 314: How culture influences brand with Mark Miller & Ted Vaughn 11.10.2021 55:47
"Culture" and "Brand" are two concepts that are often thought about and discussed as completely different topics. We don't often consider how one might not only affect but define the other. But the truth is, they are very much the opposite sides of the same coin, if that coin represents the calling card for your agency or your client's company. Agency owners and authors Mark Miller and Ted Vaughn...
EP 313: Three frameworks for inspired agency leadership with Jonathan Raymond 04.10.2021 49:13
There is no shortage of advice on how to be a better agency leader, but much of the advice out there is esoteric or theoretical. The ideas are grand, but a solid, tangible game plan is rare. Without clear steps to take, old habits and behaviors easily return before these new ideas have a chance to create lasting change. Author Jonathan Raymond's diversified background led to an interest in figurin...
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