Robert Simon
Bourbon of Proof
Welcome to Bourbon of Proof. This is a show where we talk to those who have made it in the legal profession and we do it over great conversations and spirits including bourbon, whiskey and scotch. It's either going to arrive at the station on time or go off the rails entirely. The series is about law and life, hosted by Bob Simon & Mauro Fiore.
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Robert Simon
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Jul 8, 2026
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Episodes
Approaching Law & Life With an ATHLETE'S MINDSET | Bourbon of Proof vs. Jess Sargus 08.07.2026 51:20
This time on Bourbon of Proof, the guys pour some exceptionally rare Garrison Brothers whiskey for Jess Sargus—the only person we've met who went from hauling hay bales on a horse farm to teaching lawyers how to think like elite athletes. A performance coach, trial lawyer, and MMA enthusiast, Jess joins Bob and Mauro to discuss everything from boxing in law school and developing a championship min...
Building the Future of Client Advocacy Through AI | Bourbon of Proof vs. Ryan Hecht 24.06.2026 37:40
This time on Bourbon of Proof, the guys sit down with forward-thinking trial lawyer and AI evangelist Ryan Hecht. Bob, Mauro and Ryan discuss everything from AI-powered case management to building National Advocates, his ambitious platform designed to connect clients with top lawyers from coast to coast. And after driving all the way to Houston and back on the same day as his BOP taping, Ryan stil...
Finding ASSETS Companies Claim Don't Exist | Bourbon of Proof vs. Mike Seely 17.06.2026 40:52
This time on Bourbon of Proof, the guys sit down with investigator extraordinaire Mike Seely. Bob, Mauro and Mike talk everything from tracking down former employees and exposing corporate shell games to why relationships still beat algorithms in the legal world. They also debate pressing issues like workplace fantasy football conspiracies and whether sourcing safari guides on Craigslist should be...
PRIVATE EQUITY Isn't Always a MISTAKE | Bourbon of Proof vs. Azim Nagree 10.06.2026 36:55
This time on Bourbon of Proof, the guys pour some cask-strength Still Austin juice for Azim Nagree — the man quietly rolling up the entire legal marketing industry one acquisition at a time! Bob, Mauro, and Azim get into how AI should be doing your paralegal's job but not your lawyer's, and why most law firm owners are basically accidental CEOs who just really hated having a boss. Mauro also puts...
SCALING a Firm Without LOSING YOUR SOUL | Bourbon of Proof vs. Justin Martin 03.06.2026 37:40
This time on Bourbon of Proof, the guys sit down with renowned trial lawyer and relationship-builder Justin Martin. Bob, Mauro and Justin discuss everything from AI-driven case value to scaling a law firm without sacrificing your integrity along the way. They also debate why discipline matters more than motivation, whether radio ads still work, and if living next door to "Zuckerberg" is actually t...
GRINDING to Create a Firm Built on ETHICS | Bourbon of Proof vs. Laura Ramos James 27.05.2026 36:07
This time on Bourbon of Proof, the guys sit down with Texas trial lawyer and firm builder, Laura Ramos James. Bob, Mauro and Laura talk about building a practice from scratch, why branding and diversification really matter, and how AI is quietly reshaping the way modern trial lawyers work. They also get into burnout, buying back your time, and whether "case running" in Texas has officially become...
Rideshare Abuse and SO MUCH MORE! | Bourbon of Proof - Best of L.A. Live 20.05.2026 52:06
This time on Bourbon of Proof , we bring you a highlight reel of the best moments from our "Live from Los Angeles" shows—featuring Jamie Court, Susan Jones Knape, Brett Schreiber, Michael Sanchez, Courtney Rowley, Nick Rowley, and Brian Panish. From billion-dollar verdicts to taking on Big Tech, rideshare giants, and corporate bad actors, it's a masterclass in high-stakes trial law with zero filte...
TRIAL LAW is a CONTACT SPORT | Bourbon of Proof vs. Brian Panish 13.05.2026 44:34
This time on Bourbon of Proof, Bob and Mauro welcome Hall of Fame trial lawyer Brian Panish. They talk about everything from "peanut butter & jelly" cases to collecting on multi-billion-dollar verdicts, while Brian shares stories of wild courtroom theatrics (including a surprise Johnny Cochran appearance). It's big verdicts, bigger personalities, and one final sendoff from The Bike Shed in DTLA. E...
A Moral OBLIGATION to Fight for PEOPLE Over PROFITS | Bourbon of Proof vs. Nick Rowley 06.05.2026 37:46
Welcome back to BOP live from DTLA where Bob and Mauro welcome legendary trial lawyer and courtroom warrior, Nick Rowley. The guys talk about trying cases nobody else will touch, why losing is part of the process, and what it really takes to disrobe terrible judges. Also, Bob may or may not share a story about Nick chasing bears naked in Montana... Buckle up, this is a wild one! If you'd like to...
Taking On Corporate GIANTS | Bourbon of Proof vs. Courtney Rowley 29.04.2026 32:47
This week on Bourbon of Proof, Bob and Mauro welcome 2025 Trial Lawyer of the Year, Courtney Rowley! They dive into why juries are more fired up than ever to bring down bad actors like Monsanto, and what it really takes to try cases across the country while raising a family. They also discuss the power of mentorship & mom strength, and why putting your phone down might be the most radical move of...
BUILDING, GROWING & CONSOLIDATING Law Firms | Bourbon of Proof vs. Michael Sanchez 22.04.2026 34:27
On another live taping from DTLA, the guys welcome OG East L.A. trial lawyer & firm builder, Michael Sanchez. Bob, Mauro and Michael break down the future of law firm consolidation, how technology is launching firms out of a cannon and why knowing your role might be the real secret to scaling. Also, they may or may not negotiate a law firm sale live on air! Settle in and get comfy for more LA-base...
PRIORITIZING Public SAFETY Over Corporate POWER | Bourbon of Proof vs. Brett Schreiber 08.04.2026 36:12
This time on Bourbon of Proof, the guys pour a 135-proof Old Forester single barrel for Brett Schreiber — trial lawyer, wildfire warrior, and the only man we know who went to "Tesla School" for two years and came back with a $300M+ verdict! Bob, Mauro and Brett talk about everything from how to break down autopilot algorithms for a jury to what it really takes to hold utilities and tech giants acc...
Giving Survivors a VOICE!! | Bourbon of Proof vs. Susan Jones Knape 01.04.2026 32:32
Live from The Bike Shed in downtown Los Angeles, the guys welcome A Case For Women founder Susan Jones Knape. Bob, Mauro and Susan dive into the shocking scale of rideshare abuse and why Roblox might be the scariest place your kid can hang out. It's strong pours, iced tea confessions, and a reminder that sometimes the most important work starts with simply listening. Welcome to hometown BOP in DTL...
BIG TECH is Not Above THE LAW!! | Bourbon of Proof vs. Jamie Court 25.03.2026 33:28
This time on Bourbon of Proof, the guys welcome longtime Consumer Watchdog and accident victim advocate Jamie Court. Bob and Mauro ask him about the decades he's spent weaponizing ballot initiatives against insurance companies and then learn all about his latest target... Uber! Jamie has proven many times that sometimes the only way to beat billion-dollar companies is to raise a little hell. The g...
Finding GOOD ATTORNEYS Who Are Also GOOD PEOPLE | Bourbon of Proof vs. Brandon Herlihy 18.03.2026 34:32
LAWFTY co-founder and legal-tech pioneer Brandon Herlihy joins the guys on yet another instalment of BOP NYC. Bob, Mauro and guest-host Ryan Rinella of RyMac Consulting (who you may also know from OpenJar Concepts) drill down on how Brandon is quietly helping reshape the way elite trial firms partner up across the country, and why he believes that aligning incentives ALWAYS delivers better results...
Be BOLD in Branding or Be IGNORED!! | Bourbon of Proof vs. Gary Sarner 11.03.2026 34:04
This week on Bourbon of Proof, the guys go live from Bourbon & Branch in New York City with marketing renegade Gary Sarner and guest-host Maria Monroy of the Tip the Scales podcast. Bob and Mauro have Gary break down why 93% of America still listens to radio AND they get him to reveal the origin story behind his 220 (now-iconic) loud shirts! Cheers to another bourbon-fueled marketing masterclass f...
MINDFULNESS and a Healthy Work/Life BALANCE! | Bourbon of Proof vs. Megan Whiteside 04.03.2026 40:33
This week on Bourbon of Proof, the guys welcome nursing home abuse & neglect legal superstar Megan Whiteside - the only guest in show history to casually mention launching her own firm while pregnant with her fourth child! The episode is also guest-hosted by BOP veteran (and Bob's lovely wife) Christine Bullock. The crew breaks down the strategies for maintaining a balance between work and parenth...
The CHESS MATCH of Expert TRUCKING LITIGATION | Bourbon of Proof vs. Ed Ciarimboli 25.02.2026 30:10
This time on Bourbon of Proof, Bob and Mauro welcome national trucking law powerhouse Ed Ciarimboli. The guys dive deep on the multi-defendant, multi-jurisdictional puzzle that is modern trucking litigation, and Ed divulges his recipe for success! Guest-hosted by Law Rank president and fellow podcaster Maria Monroy, this is truly a can't miss instalment of your favorite law pod. Bottoms up from NY...
Turning SOCIAL MEDIA Into a REFERRAL ENGINE! | Bourbon of Proof vs. Arkady Frekhtman 18.02.2026 31:25
On Another episode of BOP from NYC, the guys welcome trial lawyer and YouTube "People's Champion" Arkady Frekhtman. Bob, Mauro, and Arkady are also joined by guest-host-extraordinaire Zach Barreto from Expert Institute. The gang discusses everything from the strategy behind building a law practice through social media, to trying traumatic brain-injury cases using human stories instead of medical j...
Breaking Down the BUSINESS of LAW | Bourbon of Proof vs. Mary Ellen Murrah 11.02.2026 29:10
On another Bourbon of Proof episode live from NYC, the guys welcome Vista Consulting boss/law firm growth guru Mary Ellen Murrah & trial lawyer/real-life Vista client Michael Rose! Bob, Mauro, Mary Ellen and Michael talk about scaling firms without blowing up culture and debate whether reading your own mail on airplanes is a sign of leadership... or just a cry for help. Cheers to leveling up, BOP...
Fighting the GOOD Fight!! | Bourbon of Proof vs. Brett Turnbull 04.02.2026 43:22
On another "Live from Savannah" episode, Bob and Mauro host Brett Turnbull, the Alabama legal powerhouse with verdicts so big they should come with a warning label. Between high-proof pours and courtroom war stories, they debate whether Brett (a former college QB) can still sling a football with any heat. Is Brett the John Elway of mass tort law?? Stick around and find out!
OVERCOMING Imposter Syndrome and Embracing Team LEADERSHIP!! | Bourbon of Proof vs. Alex Smith & Viraj Bindra 02.02.2026 47:55
Live from Law-Di-Gras, the guys uncork some high-proof picks for NFL legend Alex Smith and Finch Legal founder Viraj Bindra. Bob, Mauro, Alex, and Viraj dive into imposter syndrome in pro football locker rooms, and whether quarterbacks, surgeons, and trial lawyers should ever be "price-capped." Cheers to Alex's philosophies on authentic leadership (with a side of typical Mauro shenanigans). This i...
GIVING AWAY the Marketing Playbook for FREE!! | Bourbon of Proof vs. Nalini Prasad and Colleen Joyce 28.01.2026 38:27
Bourbon of Proof is live from NYC and the guys welcome BluShark Digital's Nalini Prasad — legal-marketing mastermind and the only guest in show history who waited three years to be invited… then showed up pregnant and couldn't drink! Bob and Mauro are also joined by BOP alum Colleen Joyce who sits in as a guest host. They talk about everything from radical transparency in legal marketing to how to...
Is AI About to EAT the Legal Industry?? | Bourbon of Proof vs. Jerry Zhou & Brandon Smith 26.01.2026 1:03:29
This time on Bourbon of Proof, the guys crack open DragonCon bourbon for AI startup founder Jerry Zhou and legal gunslinger Brandon Smith. Bob, Mauro, Jerry, and Brandon dive into Dungeons & Dragons dice rolls, Cocaine Bear parenting decisions, and how artificial intelligence is (not-so-quietly) preparing to automate a significant swath of the legal industry. Cheers to some good, old-fashioned, bo...
The Reality TV Lawyer UNICORN!! | Bourbon of Proof vs Xavier Prather 19.01.2026 50:44
This time on Bourbon of Proof, the guys pour some celebrity-backed whiskeys for Xavier Prather — Grand Rapids family-law attorney, reality TV star, and the only lawyer we know licensed in two states who somehow never took the bar exam! Bob, Mauro, and Xavier talk about Big Brother fame, negotiating TV contracts, turning influencers into clients, and why lawyers should never be afraid to get paid....
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