Both Sides Now

Both Sides Now

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Both Sides Now was co-founded in 2022 by Eve McCallum and Finn Ross, who could see the increasing polarisation and the decreasing youth engagement in politics. They wanted to show that you could disagree politically and still be great mates. The show interviewed a range of high-profile politicians and journalists from across the political spectrum, including 6 Prime Ministers, 4 party leaders and 2 journalists.  The show is back for election year 2026, and with Finn now being based in the UK, Alex Martin is stepping up to fill the left-leaning co-host role. Not only will the show continue its...

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Jul 4, 2026

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What is going on with the Conservation Amendment Bill? Plus emergency housing, Opportunity and AI ads 04.07.2026

This week on the podcast we're unpacking the Conservation Amendment Bill and separating the facts from the politics. There's been plenty of debate about what the Bill actually does, so we take a look at what's changing, why it's causing such a stir, and whether the concerns being raised stack up. We also dive into the Government's KPIs for emergency housing. What are they trying to achieve, are th...

A beginners guide to our weird voting system MMP 27.06.2026

Ever wondered how New Zealand's voting system actually works? In this episode, we're joined by our old university lecturer, Professor Andrew Geddis, for a deep dive into MMP – the system that shapes every election and every government. We unpack how MMP works, why New Zealand adopted it, what your party vote and electorate vote actually do, and clear up some of the biggest misconceptions about our...

Definition of a woman, Labour has some new policies and scrutiny week 20.06.2026

This week on the podcast, we begin by discussing our episode with Q Opportunity Party leader. We then unpacked the government's proposed Definition of a Woman Bill and looked at the legal, political, and social debates surrounding it. We discussed what the bill would actually do, why it has generated so much attention, and whether it has any realistic chance of becoming law. We also took a look at...

Opportunity party leader Qiulae Wong on the new Opportunity Party, left v right divide and Mt Albert campaign 13.06.2026

She's the woman hoping to pull off one of the biggest upsets in New Zealand's MMP history. Qiulae Wong — known as 'Q' — is the new leader of the Opportunity Party, and she joins us on Both Sides Now to talk about what needs to change in NZ politics, why the left-right divide is holding the country back, and her mission to get Opportunity into Parliament for the very first time. We talk about her c...

Stalking, climate change litigation and do polls really matter? 06.06.2026

In this weeks episode we examine the Government's new stalking legislation, which will create a standalone stalking offence for the first time in New Zealand. We discuss why existing laws have often failed to adequately capture patterns of obsessive and threatening behaviour, what conduct the new offence will cover, and whether the proposed penalties and protections strike the right balance. We th...

Budget breakdown - what is it, why is it important and what's in it for you 30.05.2026

It's Budget week, which means we've dedicated this episode to breaking down the Government's biggest announcement of the year. We talk through what the Budget actually is, why politicians and the media obsess over it every May, and what this year's decisions tell us about the Government's priorities. We look at the key spending announcements, where the money is going, and...

Breakdown of Nicole McKee, changes to family carers law, public service cuts and more! 23.05.2026

This week on the podcast, politics delivered another packed agenda and we covered it all — from our interview with Nicole McKee and what she had to say about ACT’s priorities in Government, through to the latest debates dominating Wellington. We unpacked the Government’s proposed changes to the family carers legislation and the difficult balancing act between recognising carers, managing costs, an...

Hon Nicole McKee on firearms, family and her political career 16.05.2026

In this episode, we sit down with Hon Nicole McKee to discuss the issues that have defined both her political career and her personal journey. From firearm reform and the aftermath of the Christchurch mosque attacks, to the realities of being a Māori woman in politics, Nicole shares candid insights into some of New Zealand’s most debated topics. We talk about why firearms matter to many New Zealan...

Fees free, breakdown of Desley Simpson, grievance driven politics and birth rates 09.05.2026

This week on the podcast, we covered a LOT — from the government’s surprise Fees Free announcement hot off the press, a breakdown of our episode with Deputy Mayor Desley Simpson and what the UK local council elections might signal globally as Reform makes major gains. We unpacked the new Helen Clark Foundation social cohesion report, including the striking finding that 28% of people feel alienated...

Deputy Mayor Desley Simpson on Leadership, Local Government, and Auckland’s Future 02.05.2026

In this episode, we sit down with Deputy Mayor of Auckland Desley Simpson to unpack the realities of local government, leadership during crisis, and why local politics deserves far more attention especially from young people. A key theme throughout the conversation is the disconnect between people and local government. While councils shape everyday life from transport to infrastructure many voters...

Breakdown of Wayne Eagleson, Tova v the PM, FTAs and Shane Jones 25.04.2026

Big episode this week. We unpack the Wayne Eagleson interview and what it reveals behind the scenes, then dive into the leadership confidence vote and what it signals for the party moving forward. We also break down Christopher Luxon’s call to pull out of his scheduled interviews with Tova O'Brien and what that says about his media strategy.  On the policy front, we get into the India FTA — w...

Former Chief of Staff Wayne Eagleson on the machinery of government, being a political staffer and what makes a great PM 18.04.2026

In this episode, we're joined by former Chief of Staff to the Prime Minister, Wayne Eagleson, for a behind-the-scenes look at how government really works. We get into his career at the centre of power, what separates good PMs from great ones, and the real role political staffers play (beyond the headlines). Wayne shares how decisions get made under pressure, what loyalty and judgment look lik...

Breakdown of Barbara Edmonds Episode, public sector grad roles, Eve has watched Prime Minister and the cabinet reshuffle 11.04.2026

We unpack our takeaways from Barbara Edmonds’ latest interview, dive into the growing fuel crisis, and talk about the tough reality facing grads with fewer public sector roles available. Plus, Eve shares her thoughts after watching Prime Minister , and we break down the recent cabinet reshuffle — were the right calls made? Tune in for sharp insights and real talk on the issues shaping Aotearoa rig...

Hon Barbara Edmonds on family, election promises and working for National 28.03.2026

We are so excited for you to hear this one, we chat with Barb for a refreshingly honest conversation about life inside and outside Parliament. She opens up about raising a big family, her time working for National, and why community has always been at the centre of everything she does. She shares why she's not making big promises about “fixing the economy” this election, what she thinks voter...

Breakdown of Nicola Willis' interview, petrol prices, COVID-19 Royal Commission and a super rugby update 21.03.2026

We begin by reviewing our interview with Nicola Willis. We unpack the growing conflict involving the US, Israel and Iran, and how it’s starting to ripple into everyday life here — particularly through oil prices, petrol costs, and the wider cost of living in Aotearoa. On the domestic front, we go through the newly released Royal Commission COVID-19 Lessons Learned Phase 2 report.  We also touch on...

Hon Nicola Willis on Pay Equity, Mum guilt and how her leadership style compares with Jacinda Ardern 14.03.2026

Finance Minister Nicola Willis joins the podcast for a candid conversation about the pressures and priorities of political leadership. From the debate around pay equity to the reality of mum guilt while holding one of the country’s most demanding jobs, Nicola shares how she navigates family, finance, and public scrutiny. She also reveals the policy she believes every politician should be talking a...

2026 Preview and Predictions 08.03.2026

We are back and Eve is joined by a new co-host, Alex Martin. In this first episode, we share our predictions for the political year ahead and talk through stories and issues we think will shape the months to come. We also outline what we’re planning for the podcast this season and the kinds of conversations we want to have along the way. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Former White House Deputy Chief of Staff Chris Liddell on his time working for Donald Trump, American politics and his work to help New Zealand 24.04.2024

This was an epic chat with the kiwi who spent 4 years having daily meetings with the most powerful man in the world. He chats about his time in the White House, politics in the United States and how he's helping to shape the future of New Zealand. Chris has done very little media in New Zealand so don't miss the chance to hear directly from someone who was once the most influential kiwi...

Former White House Deputy Chief of Staff Chris Liddell Speed Round 24.04.2024

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James Meager MP Speed Round 06.03.2024

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New MP James Meager on his proudest achievement, his future goals in politics and his Maiden Speech 04.03.2024

This was an epic chat with new MP James Meager where we chatted about everything from climate change, to the treaty, to what his proudest achievements are outside of politics and the impact his new career will have on his personal life.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Eve and Finn share their thoughts on the campaign 05.10.2023

Catch Eve and Finn sharing how they think the campaign has gone and what we can expect in the coming weeks! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

TOP Leader Raf Manji Speed Round 22.09.2023

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Raf Manji on TOP, what the polls don't show about their chances and the current MP who considered making the move 21.09.2023

Eve and Finn would both agree that theres many things in TOP they would both vote for. This was a great chat where we explored more about who TOP are, what they would bring to Parliament and why voting for them isn't a wasted vote.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Paddy Gower speed(ish) round 08.09.2023

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