Both Lives Podcast

This week, Dawn is joined by Pam Birtle to discuss pregnancy crisis and adoption. Pam shares her story of giving birth to her son the day before her fifteenth birthday, the impact of their separation through forced adoption, and their reunion 32 years later. In 1999, she and her husband, Trevor, established Cornerstone. It is currently the only Ofsted-inspected practicing Christian fostering agenc...

This week, Dawn and Lisa are joined by former Evangelical Alliance associate, Anna Iliescu to discuss her article, ‘Why is motherhood unappealing to so many young women today?’ Together they explore why so many women feel fearful or unqualified for motherhood and reflect on how the church can tell a better story for both lives in pregnancy and motherhood, pre and post birth. Dawn and Lisa also dis...

This week, Dawn is joined by Brian Harvey, a businessman from Northern Ireland. Brian shares his adoption story and together they explore the crucial role that fathers can play in supporting both lives in pregnancy, pre and post birth. Also in this episode, Dawn and Lisa discuss the just released Scotland abortion statistics for 2025. They then reflect on a listener comment and a recent conversati...

This week, Dawn is joined by Aoife Kelly de Klerk. Originally from  Tipperary, Ireland, Aoife began her career as an Occupational Therapist. In 2019, she founded Tevah Moshe in response to the baby abandonment crisis in South Africa. Aoife’s husband Leon shared that during his time studying to become a civil engineer, he visited a water treatment facility and was confronted by the reality that one...

This week, Dawn is joined by Sue Lucas, a retired Early Years teacher and advisor from Somerset. Sue and her husband adopted both of their daughters as babies and are now proud grandparents. In the 1990s, Sue co-founded the charity ASIST with a group of adopters, driven by a vision that any woman, wherever she lived, could easily access information about baby adoption as a positive and informed ch...

This week, Dawn is joined by Dr Melody Redman and Dr Grace Petkovic to discuss Healthcare for Both Lives, a new initiative founded by healthcare professionals responding to a lack of support and representation for those committed to caring for both pregnant women and their pre-born children. They explore why the group was established and how it promotes compassionate, evidence-based care, supports...

Alicia Edmund, head of public policy at the Evangelical Alliance, joins Dawn to share how she went from identifying as pro-choice during her late teens and early 20s to embracing a pro-both perspective through faith and discipleship. They also discuss bringing Christian conviction into political advocacy and lament the recent House of Lords vote on decriminalising abortion, and what it looks like...

When God the Son became flesh, He developed in the womb and was born of a woman, like all babies are. Joining us in the fullness of our humanity from that point was intentional, so it must matter. Yet we don’t tend to think about those nine months before Jesus’ birth. With this God Unborn series, we are led to think about the circumstances and the people at the point at which the Word became flesh...

John Wyatt is an Emeritus Professor of Neonatal Paediatrics, Ethics & Perinatology at University College London and a senior researcher at the Faraday Institute for Science and Religion. A former consultant neonatologist, he spent over 25 years caring for critically ill newborns and researching the causes, treatment, and prevention of brain injury in infants. His clinical experience led to a d...

This week, Dawn is joined by Isabel Vaughan-Spruce, Co-Director of March for Life UK and Campaign Director for 40 Days for Life Birmingham. Together they explore Isabel's work, her story, and what motivates her involvement in both national pro-both advocacy and local prayer vigils. March for Life:  www.marchforlife.co.uk/ 40 Days for Life:  www.40daysforlife.com/en/ Let’s continue the conversation...

Welcome to Season two of the Both Lives Podcast! We love to hear from you - get in touch by emailing us at stand@bothlives.co.uk Find out more about the work of Both Lives and sign up to our free monthly newsletter: bothlives.co.uk Follow us on social media: Facebook & X: @BothLives Instagram: @BothLivesUK

In this episode, Dawn and Lisa reflect on the insights shared by our expert guests, answer listeners' questions and explore what it means to view the Advent season through a pro-both lens. The Both Lives Podcast will return in February 2026. God Unborn Advent devotional 2025: www.eauk.org/what-we-do/initiatives/both-lives/god-unborn/god-unborn-advent-2025 Let’s continue the conversation, send your...

This week, Dawn is joined by the author of Carrying Hope: Expecting Death, Delivering Life, Beth Appleby. Together they’ll explore Beth’s heartfelt and deeply vulnerable story of a pregnancy destined to end in death by the medical world but fore which God has other plans. Buy Carrying Hope: Expecting Death, Delivering Life or contact Beth at: carryinghope.co.uk Let’s continue the conversation, sen...

This week, Dawn is joined by legal scholar, Dr Mary Neal, whose work focuses on healthcare law and ethics and legal theory. Together they explore the jurisprudence of pregnancy and the trajectory of abortion law in the UK. Let’s continue the conversation, send your questions and comments to stand@bothlives.co.uk Find out more about the work of Both Lives and sign up to our free monthly newsletter:...

This week, we’re turning our attention to the USA as Dawn is joined by Elizabeth Graham, CEO of Life Collective and Stand for Life. Together they explore, the current cultural landscape when it comes to abortion in America, the impact of Roe v Wade being overturned, and the need for and ways in which churches and communities are stepping up to support women, families, and babies – pre and post bir...

This week, Dawn is joined by cultural commentator, The Belfast Bigot. Together they explore the truth of what abortion really is, the cultural climate surrounding it, and why The Belfast Bigot chooses to keep his identity private. Let’s continue the conversation, send your questions and comments to stand@bothlives.co.uk Find out more about the work of Both Lives and sign up to our free monthly new...

This week, Dawn is joined by Sophie Guthrie-Kummer, Chief Executive at Choices, a charity committed to offering compassionate, confidential support to women navigating the complex realities of pregnancy, loss, and parenthood. Let’s continue the conversation, send your questions and comments to stand@bothlives.co.uk Find out more about the work of Both Lives and sign up to our free monthly newslett...

This week, Dawn is joined by Carla Lockhart MP. Together they explore the challenges of balancing motherhood with a demanding political career and talk about what it’s really like to stand up for both lives in pregnancy in the House of Commons. To find out how your local MP has voted on issues surrounding pregnancy and abortion check out: theyworkforyou.com How to connect with your local represent...

This week Dawn is joined by Damilola Makinde, (Evangelical Alliance advocacy engagement lead) Together, Dawn and Damilola explore why and how churches should speak of and respond to pregnancy crisis and abortion, God’s creation design, His heart for His image bearers and what it means to be a woman.  Let’s continue the conversation, send your questions and comments to stand@bothlives.co.uk Find ou...

On this week’s episode, Dawn sits down with Stefanie, a midwife specialising in trauma and loss. Together, they explore what it truly means to walk alongside women and families through some of life’s most complex and heart-wrenching circumstances. They discuss the gaps that still exist in care for women and unborn babies, and share insights on how those providing this essential support can look af...

In this week’s episode, we’re joined by cardiologist Dr Dermot Kearney. Through his work with abortion pill reversal, Dr Kearney has saved dozens of babies. We ask: What is abortion pill reversal? Why was he banned from saving unborn baby’s lives? Is the current system pro-choice or pro-abortion?  To find out more about the amazing, life saving work of abortion pill reversal, check out abortionpil...

In this week’s episode, we’re joined by Dr Marion Ritchie, a GP with a special interest in women's health and sexual reproductive health. We ask, when does life begin? What is it like to work in a contested space that can challenge an individual’s conscience? Let’s continue the conversation, send your questions and comments to stand@bothlives.co.uk Find out more about the work of Both Lives and si...

Welcome to the Both Lives Podcast! In this episode, Both Lives UK lead, Dawn McAvoy will talk about the history of Both Lives, explore what it means to be pro-both and reflect on how her own experience of a pregnancy crisis shaped her views on this important topic. Let’s continue the conversation, send your questions and comments to stand@bothlives.co.uk Find out more about the work of Both Lives...

This is the official trailer for the Both Lives Podcast. Find out more about the work of Both Lives and sign up to our free monthly newsletter: bothlives.co.uk Follow us on social media: Facebook & X: @BothLives Instagram: @BothLivesUK