School of Advanced Air and Space Studies
Books to Battles
Books to Battles is the official podcast of the School of Advanced Air and Space Studies (SAASS), where rigorous academic thought meets real-world military application. In each episode, we'll take you inside our school to explore its courses, students, and faculty. We'll show how foundational ideas—from classic works of strategy to cutting-edge scholarship—inform the development and execution of air and space power in today’s complex strategic environment. Join us as we bridge the gap between theory and practice, bringing deep intellectual insight to the art of war in the air and beyond. All v...
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Jun 3, 2026
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Season Finale: Lt Gen Armagost and Book Club 03.06.2026 42:28
In this episode, Dr. Whitman Cobb and Col. Hollon sit down with Lt Gen Jason Armagost, Deputy Commander of Air Force Global Strike Command and the Class XXXV graduation speaker. They discuss strategic thinking, military leadership, and the enduring value of intellectual curiosity. Drawing on his experiences as a commander, Stanford fellow, and lifelong reader, Lt Gen Armagost reflects on the role...
The SAASS Student Takeover 20.05.2026 43:49
In this special episode of Books to Battles , members of SAASS Class XXXV take over the podcast to reflect on their experiences at the School of Advanced Air and Space Studies as they prepare to graduate. The students discuss why they chose SAASS, their impressions of the program, the challenges of the reading and thesis process, and the intellectual growth they experienced throughout the year. Th...
Space Power Discussions: Test Gods 13.05.2026 32:24
This week, we bring you a special preview of Space Power Discussions, a podcast series with episodes produced by our SAASS students. Find out more by searching "Space Power Discussions" on your preferred podcast platform. This episode of Space Power Discussions examines Test Gods , exploring the culture of experimental test pilots and risk in advancing aerospace capabilities. SAASS students connec...
Space Power Discussions: The Power of the Space Club 06.05.2026 31:48
This week, we bring you a special preview of Space Power Discussions, a podcast series with episodes produced by our SAASS students. Find out more by searching "Space Power Discussions" on your preferred podcast platform. This episode of Space Power Discussions explores The Power of the Space Club , examining how exclusive access to space capabilities shapes international politics. SAASS students...
SAASS 660: Technology and Innovation 29.04.2026 33:25
In this episode, Dr. Whitman Cobb and Col. Hollon are joined by members of the SAASS 660 teaching team to discuss the course on Technology and Innovation and its role as the final course of the curriculum. The conversation examines how military innovation occurs, emphasizing the bureaucratic, organizational, and political challenges that shape the adoption of new ideas and technologies. The guests...
CSO Gen Chance Saltzman Interview 22.04.2026 38:37
In this episode of Books to Battles , hosts Dr. Whitman Cobb and Col Hollon interview the Chief of Space Operations, the senior uniformed leader of the U.S. Space Force, General Chance Saltzman, Gen. Saltzman traces his career from missile operations to leading a new military service and reflects on how the School of Advanced Air and Space Studies shaped his approach to critical thinking, communic...
Lt Gen (Ret) David Deptula Interview 15.04.2026 38:35
In this episode, Dr. Wendy Whitman Cobb and Col. Cory Hollon interview Lt Gen (Ret.) David Deptula about the role of air and space power in modern warfare and national security. Deptula discusses the mission of the Mitchell Institute, emphasizing the need to better educate policymakers and the public on the strategic importance of air and space capabilities. The conversation addresses contemporary...
Iran Redux 08.04.2026 35:05
We’re pulling an episode out of the vault this week. We’ll be revisiting the June 2025 attacks on Iran in Operation MIDNIGHT HAMMER. And while this week is a re-run, we’ve got a couple of exciting guests lined up for the next couple of weeks. Keep watching this space! And if you could, like, subscribe, comment, and/or tell a friend - it all helps us reach a broad audience of national security and...
Artemis 01.04.2026 41:32
On this episode of Books to Battles, we explore NASA’s Artemis program and the upcoming Artemis II mission. We discuss its strategic significance, technological milestones, and implications for sustainable lunar return and great power competition, highlighting how Artemis shapes the future of human spaceflight and international partnerships beyond Earth orbit.
SAASS 665 Space Power 25.03.2026 34:58
On this episode of Books to Battles, we explore SAASS 665, Space Power, with Dr. Jim Tucci and Dr. Derrick Frazier. The episode examines how the course bridges theory and practice, tracing the evolution of military space thought, key strategic debates, and the role of space in modern warfare.
Thesis Update 18.03.2026 31:32
In this episode of Books to Battles, Dr. Whitman Cobb and Col Hollon welcome Dr. Paige Reid to discuss the SAASS thesis process and where students currently stand in the project timeline. The conversation explains how students move from an initial research puzzle to a refined strategic argument through research, writing, and faculty mentorship. The hosts explore common challenges in the thesis pro...
Air University Press and Journals 11.03.2026 30:52
In this episode of Books to Battles , hosts Dr. Wendy Whitman Cobb and Col. Cory Hollon speak with Air University Press editors Michael Tate and Megan Hohen about the role of military academic journals in shaping professional debate within the Air Force and Space Force. The discussion explores how the Air University journals support warfighter education by publishing research on airpower, spacepow...
The 2026 National Defense Strategy 25.02.2026 49:46
In this episode of Books to Battles , Dr. Wendy Whitman Cobb and Col. Cory Hollon examine the 2026 National Defense Strategy through the lens of international relations theory and contemporary events. They discuss the document’s emphasis on realism, homeland defense, deterrence of China, increased burden-sharing with allies, and revitalization of the defense industrial base. The hosts analyze nota...
SAASS 667: Information and Cyber Power 18.02.2026 33:48
In this episode, Dr. Wendy Whitman Cobb and Col. Cory Hollon are joined by Lt Col Rachel Reynolds and Lt Col Ben “Hojo” Heidenreich to discuss SAASS 667, Information and Cyber Power . The conversation explores how the course examines influence, subversion, cyber operations, and the role of narratives in contemporary competition, drawing on historical and current case studies such as Ukraine and gr...
SAASS Alumni #1 11.02.2026 37:38
In this episode, Dr. Whitman Cobb and Col. Hollon are joined by Col. Brendon “Herb” Herbeck and Lt. Col. Rob Gharrity, SAASS alumni currently serving at U.S. Space Command. Herb and Rob reflect on their experiences at SAASS and how the program shaped their professional development. The discussion explores how the school’s emphasis on critical thinking, writing, and strategic analysis continues to...
SAASS 644 - Irregular War 04.02.2026 35:28
In this episode, Dr. Whitman Cobb and Col. Hollon are joined by SAASS 644, Irregular War, teaching team members, Drs. Lina Svedin and Rob Hutchinsonto discuss the class and its place within the curriculum. The conversation explores how the course conceptualizes irregular warfare, the distinction between war and warfare, and the roles of state and non-state actors in pursuing political objectives t...
House of Dynamite in Review 28.01.2026 45:39
In this episode, Dr. Whitman Cobb and Col. Hollon analyze House of Dynamite , a recent film depicting a nuclear missile crisis from multiple institutional and human perspectives. The discussion examines how the movie portrays early warning, missile defense, crisis decision-making, and civil–military relations under extreme time pressure and uncertainty. The hosts assess the realism of command-and-...
SAASS 633 - Coercion and Deterrence 14.01.2026 44:32
Dr. Whitman Cobb and Col Hollon welcome the teaching team for SAASS 633: Coercion and Deterrence in Theory and Practice . Dr. Paige Reid and Lt Col Rachel Reynolds discuss the origins and evolution of the course along with its central question: “how do you get someone to do what you want them to do?” The team breaks down why the class drops students straight into the nuclear age, how thinkers like...
End of 2025 Review 24.12.2025 30:04
In this end-of-year episode, the hosts review a turbulent 2025, focusing in particular on December’s rapid sequence of national security developments. They examine U.S. military operations in the Caribbean and Eastern Pacific, the evolving use of economic and military coercion against Venezuela, and historical parallels to the Cuban Missile Crisis. The discussion situates these actions within coer...
Mental Health in the Military 17.12.2025 34:46
In this episode, the team talks with Lt Col JoLynn Tatum, a clinical psychologist and Air War College faculty member, about the state of mental health in the military. She explains common challenges service members face—often less PTSD than everyday stressors like relationships, sleep, depression, and anxiety—and why stigma and career fears still keep many from seeking help. Tatum discusses rising...
Aquisition Transformation 10.12.2025 44:28
In this episode of Books to Battles , Dr. Wendy Whitman Cobb and Col. Cory Hollon are joined by Lt. Col. Joshua Cobb, U.S. Army, for a candid deep dive into the complexities of military acquisitions reform. Drawing on his broad experience across infantry, missile defense, special operations, and requirements writing, Josh explains why the U.S. system struggles with speed, agility, and risk accepta...
Airpower in Limited War 03.12.2025 32:43
In this episode, Wendy and Cory sit down with Dr. Tom Hughes, Col. Neil “Gump” Dimmitt, and Lt. Col. Ben “Hojo” Heidenreich to unpack the SAASS course Airpower in Limited War . They explore how the course traces airpower’s evolution from World War II into the era of politically constrained, technologically advanced limited conflicts, and how instructors choose which 80 years of history to cover in...
The Return and Current Events 26.11.2025 32:06
Dr. Whitman Cobb and Col Hollon reunite after a 43-day government shutdown and discuss how the furlough affected faculty, students, and operations at the School of Advanced Air and Space Studies. They then examine ongoing U.S. military activity in the Caribbean under Operation Southern Spear, exploring the legal, strategic, and regional political implications of recent strikes on narco-trafficking...
Hiatus 29.10.2025 1:33
Hiatus Announcement: The Books to Battles team is taking a break for the remainder of the U.S. government is shutdown. We'll be back with full episodes as soon as possible. Thank you for your support!
International Relations 22.10.2025 30:03
In this episode of Books to Battles , Dr. Lina Svedin and Dr. Paige Reid discuss SAASS 632, International Relations . They explore the major theories, concepts, and debates that frame the study of global politics, highlighting how these ideas intersect with strategy and security. With readings on theory, strategic narratives, and power and change, the course challenges students to think critically...
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