Alvina and Grace

Book Friends Forever Podcast

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Children's book publishing's secrets are revealed as we listen in on fascinating, unguarded, insider discussion from two uniquely qualified best friends: award-winning author/illustrator Grace Lin, and one of NYC's top editors, Alvina Ling. Go behind the scenes of kid lit and catch a glimpse of the lives of the best-selling author and editor, and the relationship between them.

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Alvina and Grace

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Jul 9, 2026

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Episodes

Episode 357: Teen Book Reviews with Quade Kelley! 09.07.2026

Grace and Alvina welcome special guest Quade Kelley, who is a teenager, still in high school, and is also a very active book reviewer (and much more!). Quade and Alvina both share about their experience at ALA, and then they discuss Quade's journey as a reader and a book reviewer, as well as his many projects, including the Robie Harris Youth Choice Award, the Reading Athlete, and his participatio...

Episode 356: Vocation vs job and revisiting Old Worlds with guest co-host Laurel Snyder 02.07.2026

While Alvina is on vacation, Grace welcomes guest co-host, author and poet Laurel Snyder to discuss the differences between a vocation and a job. They talk about some of the challenges of the idea of earning money from writing, and what retirement might look like as a creative. They discuss the definition of "vocation" and how they feel called to writing, and how that differs from writing to earn...

Book Friends Forever 337: WRITING TIPS! 26.06.2026

Writing Tips! In honor of author Jane Yolen who has recently passed away, Grace and Alvina share writing tips on how to get unstuck. The advice comes from many different authors, including Jane's daughter Heidi Stemple, as well as Shannon Hale, Renee Watson, Linda Sue Park, Lisa Yee, Jonathan Auxier, and more. Who suggested lying on the floor staring at the ceiling? And who suggested walking for 6...

Episode 354: CHOP SUEY: Gossip, Song Lyrics, Advice, and Book Recs with Alison Morris! 19.06.2026

Grace and Alvina have an odds and ends episode where they revisit the topic of gossip and how necessary and powerful it can be. Did you know that couples who gossip together tend to have better relationship satisfaction? Also, gossip is a way to examine society's morals. For the second segment they talk about the song lyrics that have resonated with them over the years. One example for Grace was F...

Episode 353: Hidden Beliefs and Names! 11.06.2026

Grace and Alvina discuss two topics that are linked--they talk about a recent Happiness Lab podcast episode about the hidden beliefs that shape us. They discuss their own hidden beliefs, both positive and negative, and the seven hidden beliefs that author Shawn Achor says to cultivate in order to live a better life. Some of the beliefs include gratititude, connection, believing that your work is m...

Episode 352: Publishing 101! 05.06.2026

Grace and Alvina run through some basic terms in publishing, including what a publishing division vs a publishing imprint might mean. They talk about the different departments in a publishing house, including the differences between marketing and publicity, and some other different titles and departments, including the distinction between Production and Production Editorial. They talk about advanc...

Episode 351: Our Superpowers! 28.05.2026

Grace and Alvina discuss their superpowers! That is, what qualities they possess that they feel most helped them get to where they are today in their careers. For both of them, cultivating connections and communities played a large role. They talk about what they think their own superpowers are, and what qualities they think are each other's superpowers are. For the Fortune Cookie segment, they ta...

Episode 350: CHOP SUEY: Asian American identities, Book Banning, Birthday Celebrations and Book Recs with Alison Morris! 21.05.2026

Grace and Alvina have an odds and ends episode where for AAPI or AANHPI Month they discuss their Asian American identities and how that's affected their careers. Then they discuss a recent report on book banning from Pen America, and then special guest Alison Morris joins to discuss celebrating birthdays, and then Alison gives some book recommendations! They end as always with what they're gratefu...

Episode 349: It's a Matter of Taste! 15.05.2026

Grace and Alvina talk about taste in general, including the definition of taste, how people develop their tastes, what their own tastes in culture are and how their tastes developed. They talk about who gets to determine what (for example) is "crud" vs "good". They talk about how cultural differences factor into people's tastes, and how people's personal biases play into their taste. They talk abo...

Episode 358: Queer Representation in Children's Literature with Michele Kirichanskaya! 07.05.2026

Grace and Alvina are joined by special guest Michele Kirichanskaya to discuss queer representation in children's literature. They talk a little bit about the history of publishing queer publishing, including the first book published with a gay character, and legendary editor Ursula Nordstrom who helped break taboos in publishing. They touch on what publishing is doing well and how they could be be...

Episode 347: State of Children's Book Publishing! 30.04.2026

Alvina and Grace are recording together in Brooklyn! They discuss the overall state of the children's book industry, including an article by Harold Underdown, and talk about the effects of book banning and the drop in the school and library market, and discuss how it's just a tough market overall, sadly. They discuss middle grade books and page counts and how the days of bulking them up to make th...

Spain Trip! 21.04.2026

Alvina is back from her vacation to Spain and tells Grace all about the trip! She talks about which city she likes better--Madrid or Barcelona, and highlights of both places. She gives some tips for traveling to Spain and what the must-see spots are in each city. For the Fortune Cookie segment they talk about the changes announced at Macmillan Children's Publishing Group and the closing of the Roa...

Episode 335: Children's Book Week with Melissa Thom and Shaina Birkhead! 16.04.2026

While Alvina is on vacation, Grace is joined by her Bookish State podcast co-host Melissa Thom, and they talk to Associate Executive Director of the Children's Book Council Shaina Birkhead about Children's Book Week. Shaina talks about the CBC and how she started working there, and her history as a life-long reader. She talks about the activities surrounding Children's Book Week and what has chang...

Episode 334 :Two Topics: AI book cancellation and Social Media addiction! 09.04.2026

  Grace and Alvina discuss two recent events. The first is the cancellation of the book SHY GIRL due to allegations that the author used AI to write the book. Grace and Alvina discuss the implications this has on the book publishing industry. They also discuss the recent court ruling that social media was liable for creating an addictive, harmful product.   Then, Alvina tells Grace about the book...

Episode 343: Freak Friday! 03.04.2026

Grace and Alvina switch places for this Freaky Friday episode! This one was suggested by a listener who provided some questions about what would happen if Grace and Alvina switched places and roles. What kind of editor would Grace be? How would she feel living in New York City and working in an office? What kind of author would Alvina be? How would she like living in a house in Northampton? Their...

Episode 342: China and Taiwan trip! 27.03.2026

Grace is back from her China and Taiwan adventure and tells Alvina (and our listeners!) all about it! She shared her highlights and challenges, including bargaining for "bacon jade", and of course talks about all the delicious food she ate. For the Fortune Cookie segment they talk about the results of the recent Book Friends Forever survey, including the demographics of who the listeners were. And...

Episode 341: Reality Television with Stephen Colman! 19.03.2026

While Grace was still away on her trip, Alvina invited her husband Stephen Colman to join her in discussing one of their favorite subjects: Reality Television! They talk about the first reality show they watched, and Alvina shares a story about applying for the Real World! They talk about everything from the Bachelor and Love is Blind to 90 Day Fiance, Amazing Race, and the Osbournes, talk about t...

Episode 340: Minnesota Editors with Carol Hinz and Andrew Karre! 12.03.2026

While Grace is away, Alvina has two special guests on the podcast, editors Carol Hinz of Millbrook Press and Carolrhoda Books, and Andrew Karre of Dutton. Both are currently based in Minnesota, and they share their experiences of living there during the ICE occupation. They talk about the incredible ways Minnesotans have responded, what they feel is special about Minnesotans, and give tips on how...

Episode 339: Anniversary Q/A Part 2 06.03.2026

Grace and Alvina continue answering the questions that had been submitted for their seven-year anniversary, including questions about diverse publishing, book tours, shifting genres, and what is taken into account when acquiring a book, including sales track. For the Fortune Cookie segment, they both share some happy snow memories. And, they end as always with what they're grateful for. Fill out o...

Episode 338 CHOP SUEY: TIK TOK, AGENT QUESTIONS, PREPARING FOR TRAVEL AND BOOK RECS WITH ALISON MORRIS. 26.02.2026

Grace and Alvina have an odds and ends episode where the discuss various topics, including their decision to delete their TikTok accounts, and what questions you should ask a perspective literary agent--Alvina shares what qualities she looks like when working with an agent, and they talk about how communication is key. They talk about how they prepare for big trips (Grace is heading to China soon!...

Episode 337: Seven-Year Anniversary! 20.02.2026

Grace and Alvina celebrate seven years of this podcast by answering some author, illustrator, and listeners questions. They answer questions ranging from Alvina's imprint, the different levels of editors within a publishing company, AI in publishing, the ups and downs of the market, and more! For the Fortune Cookie segment, in honor of the seven-year anniversary, they share seven Book Friends Fore...

Episode 336: Writing Communities with Julie Hedlund! 13.02.2026

Grace and Alvina welcome special guest, author Julie Hedlund, to talk about what the 12x12 Challenge is, and they talk about the importance of writing communities and how to create and cultivate them. For the Fortune Cookie segment, they discuss what they've been reading lately, and they end as always with what they're grateful for.  Sign up for the 12x12 challenge! Link open till the end of Febru...

Episode 335: Cultivating joy in others' successes! 06.02.2026

Grace Lin and Alvina Ling talk about some recent news, including the snow storm, the announcements of the ALA Youth Media Awards, and recent events in Minnesota. They do the Fortune Cookie Segment first and list the Newbery, Caldecott, and Printz Award winners and honor books, and Alvina shares the books awarded from LBYR. And then they talk about professional jealousy and how to cultivate pure jo...

Episode 334: Award Committees with Susannah Richards! 29.01.2026

Grace and Alvina welcome special guest Susannah Richards who has served on many different awards committees! Ever wonder what goes on behind closed doors? Susannah gives some insight on what type of discussion might go on. They talk about the role of luck in the choosing of the winners, and potential sales effects of winning an award. They also touch on the definition of talent and if versatility...

Episode 333: CHOP SUEY: Amazon's Ask This Book, Current Events and Social Media, Breathing, and Book Recs with Alison Morris! 23.01.2026

Grace and Alvina have an odds and ends episode, and Alvina gives a sneak peak to listeners of this podcast about the name of her new imprint! They discuss a new Amazon Ask This Book AI feature. They also discuss what everyone's responsibility (or not) is about posting about current events on social media. For the third segment, they discuss the proper way to breathe. And then, children's literatur...

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