Blak N White with Tammy and Nathan Baart

Most people think change comes from doing the right thing. Following the policy. Using the right language. Ticking the boxes. ...But what if  compliance is actually the thing holding us back? In this episode of  Blak N White , we explore the tension between  compliance and curiosity  — and why one keeps systems exactly as they are, while the other creates the conditions for real change. Because co...

Most people think shame is part of doing this work properly. But what if shame is actually the thing keeping you stuck? In this episode of Blak N White , we unpack the difference between shame and restoration — and why confusing the two can stop real change before it even begins. When shame takes over, people don’t step forward. They shut down. They get defensive. They go quiet or they centre them...

What happens when we confuse ownership with responsibility? In this episode of Blak N White , Tammy and Nathan unpack a powerful tension shaping leadership, systems, workplaces, and everyday relationships: Ownership — a dominant Western way of being Stewardship — an Indigenous way of being Ownership prioritises control, possession, authority, and individual entitlement. It asks, “What’s mine?” and...

What if the tension we feel in workplaces, schools, leadership, parenting, coaching and everyday life isn’t about  people  — but about the Ways of Being  we’ve been conditioned into? In the opening episode of the new season of  Blak N White , Tammy and Nathan return with deeper lived experience, sharper language, and a clearer lens to unpack one of the most defining contrasts shaping our world tod...

In this special bonus episode of Blak N White, Tammy and Nathan step away from the mic… instead you’ll find a dive into Zaretta Hammond's influential book, "Culturally Responsive Teaching and the Brain." While the title highlights teaching, the insights within extend far beyond the education sector, offering valuable applications for leaders, organizations, and individuals alike. Listen and lean i...

Get ready for a powerful new episode of Blak N White! This week, Tammy and Nathan tackle the crucial topics of stereotypes, cultural narratives, and representation. They dig into how media and schools shape—and often skew—our perceptions of identity and culture, challenging you to rethink the mainstream narratives that surround us. In this episode, Tammy and Nathan break down how these narratives...

In this new season of Blak N White , Tammy and Nathan take a step back to explore the foundational cultural reference points that have shaped their lives and perspectives. The journey begins with a gentle, yet profound conversation about the differences in their family dynamics and upbringings, offering a safe space to discuss how these early experiences have influenced their identities. As this s...

In this impactful episode of "Blak N White," Nathan and Tammy guide us through a reflection on the events of January 26th—Australia Day and Invasion Day. As the nation grapples with the dual narratives surrounding this date, we provide nuanced insights into the significance of acknowledging both perspectives. The episode primarily delves into the complexities of Men's and Women's...

January 26th is not a day to celebrate, but do you actually know why? Join Nathan and Tammy in this episode as they discuss why and how to navigate the date. They share some actions bold and courageous leaders can take to create a psychologically safe environment as well as how to have the necessary and very critical conversations about Australia's Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples...

Welcome back to Season 2 of Blak N White! To softly kick it off, Tammy and Nathan discuss their learnings and experiences of living abroad and connecting with Indigenous perspectives across Turtle Island. They begin by reflecting on the Referendum fallout across the globe and a call to action for Allies to continue ‘the work’, turning words into action and living the ‘YES’. Similarities and differ...

WARNING: Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples may find this podcast triggering. In a candid and eye-opening episode of "Blak N White," we delve deep into the often uncomfortable but crucial discussion of stereotypes surrounding Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people. Join us as we challenge preconceived notions, scrutinize the narratives we've grown accustomed to, and...

This episode of Blak N White delves into the nuances of understanding and engaging with Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities. Join us as we break down barriers, challenge stereotypes, and explore attitudes and approaches that pave the way for meaningful connections. In a thought-provoking conversation, we confront the impact of Stereotypes on perceptions of Indigenous peoples. Togethe...

Join us for a soul-enriching episode of "Blak N White" as we delve into the essence of wellbeing from an Aboriginal worldview. Explore the transformative power of Connecting with Country, where we unveil the spiritual harmony between humans and the land, fostering a sense of belonging and inner peace. Discover how aligning personal values with purpose becomes a cornerstone of holistic we...

We often don't appreciate something until its gone or lost! In this thought-provoking episode - "Voices of Resilience" - we delve deep into the significance of Indigenous languages, exploring their vital role in self-identity, community cohesion, and the connection to Country. Join us as we shed light on the systemic barriers hindering the reawakening and revitalisation of culturally...

Join Nathan and Tammy as they engage in candid discussions about the final and vital responsibility of allyship - committing to contribution . In this thought-provoking episode, we explore how knowing one's identity, place, and purpose , along with understanding connections to self, Country, and community , play a transformative role in reconciliation. Drawing upon Indigenous ways of being and...

The concept of decolonising can be a scary process. During this episode, Tammy and Nathan speak to their own experiences of decolonisation. Two very different paths and perspectives. Together, they tackle the following questions and dive deep in to the topic. That is... What feels do you get when you hear the word decolonise? What does decolonisation mean to you? Why is decolonising important and...

Tammy and Nathan continue discussing the journey of Allyship. Explaining its not an adjective or noun, rather a verb and way of being. A continual journey that one needs to commit to. This episode, five more responsibilities are discussed along with Sorry Business and the concept and meaning of time to Aboriginal people. The next 5 responsibilities include: Understand power imbalances (past and pr...

Walk with Tammy and Nathan as they begin unpacking the journey towards allyship. Together, they begin introducing the 'rules of the game' so individuals understand their role (and responsibilities) as they respectfully navigate the path towards understanding and strengthening their place as an Ally. The first 5 responsibilities include: Each individual needs to engage on their own cultural...

This week's episode encourages listeners to expand their knowledge and lived experiences. Tammy and Nathan dive into questions explaining NAIDOC week and this year's theme, appropriate terminology, stereotypes and questions whether we as Australian's are surviving or thriving. Listener's homework centres around questioning the information diet - things you see, listen to or exposed...

WARNING: Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples may find this podcast triggering. Names of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples who have passed have been used in this podcast episode. Warami! Budyari bayady’unya yagu (good to speak to you today)! Recorded on the western beach of K’Gari we discuss the island’s history, dingoes and significant dates up until the 1967 referendum. We t...

Get introduced to your hosts, Tammy and Nathan, as they dive into where this land 'we now call Australia' began. Come along on the journey as we begin walking together in two worlds. This episode is recorded on Yuggera Country. We humbly acknowledge Elders past and present and recognise we all have a role to play in shaping the future. Yanma budyari gumada, may we continue to walk with goo...