Beyond The Surface

Liss has a few decades experience in a variety of church traditions, 2/3 of a theology degree and spent a good chunk of that time married to a youth pastor. Liss has six incredible offspring and recently married the absolute love of their life; who also happens to be a Burlesque performer. A small business owner who began sharing hand lettered bible verses online in 2014 before pivoting to teachin...

David is a pastor turned artist painting, drawing, and thinking about what it takes to be free to be you. The idea behind the name, NakedPastor, is to seek to tell the naked truth - no matter how vulnerable it feels. David used to be a pastor but has been creating art and working towards freedom with this community for over 10 years now. Committed to truth, authenticity, and understanding, David s...

Fiona is best known for her Instagram account justcurious.au where she talks about the untangling of leaving high control religion. Fiona was raised Pentecostal and until only a few years ago had devoted every part of her life to the church. She is now navigating the healing from religious trauma. This is her story.  Links: To connect with Fiona over on Instagram - @justcurious.au   To conne...

Will Small is a poet, storyteller, and podcaster. He leads an alternative faith community called Meeting Ground and hosts the Spiritual Misfits podcast. He is the author of 'Poems for When the World is Ending' and the founder of Lead by Story. This is his story. Links: To connect with Will on social media; you can head to Instagram @williamsmall or Facebook If you are interested in his work with S...

Joy Vetterlein is a spiritual coach and writer who is engaged in reimagining life after faith. As a pastor’s kid, a good Christian girl, a Bible college grad, and a former worship pastor, she now helps post-evangelicals to find freedom from oppressive religious programming and to discover their own unique spiritual path. Joy lives in Orange County, California, with her husband and two children. Th...

Welcome to Beyond the Surface, where the saying "to be seen is to be understood" comes to life. I am Sam Sellers, your host, and a registered therapist in sunny Australia. I am passionate about the power of storytelling; and empowering voices to be heard that have previously been silenced. In this weekly seasonal podcast, the stories you hear will be of those who have experienced spiritual or reli...