Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker
Beyond the Resume
Co-hosted by industry veterans, Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker, the weekly Beyond the Resume Podcast features interviews with some of the best known real estate experts in the U.S. By exploring how they built their successful careers and the impact they have made to the communities around them we hope to educate and inspire anyone building or thinking of building a career in real estate. Join us as we go Beyond the Resume.
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Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker
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Nov 9, 2026
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Episodes
Gratitude Throwback with Michelle Militello 25.11.2025 36:39
In this episode, we visit our conversation with Michelle Militello, the Vice President, Equity Asset Management at The Community Development Trust. Michelle shares her extensive background in affordable housing, detailing her transition from banking to community development. She emphasizes the importance of asset management in preserving affordable housing and discusses the skills necessary for su...
Beyond the Resume Podcast with Jamie Smarr (Reviving New York: Affordable Housing’s Second Act) 10.11.2025 27:54
YouTube: https://youtu.be/up3jgFm5Xe0 • Spotify: https://bit.ly/4oUQ62r In this episode, Jamie Smarr, CEO of the New York City Housing Partnership, joins Chris Papa to explore how affordable housing can revitalize communities and empower residents. Jamie shares lessons from his 30-year career in government and nonprofit leadership, emphasizing the power of project management, writing, and mentorsh...
Beyond the Resume Podcast with Emily Kurtz (How Curiosity Built My Career) 03.11.2025 40:34
YouTube: https://youtu.be/86yt8WvdBr8 • Spotify: https://bit.ly/4oUQ62r In this inspiring episode of Beyond the Resume, hosts Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker sit down with Emily Kurtz, Chief Housing & Development Officer at RiseBoro Community Partnership, to explore her 20-year journey in affordable housing and community development. Emily shares how a sociology degree and a curiosity for cities l...
Beyond the Resume Podcast with Sarah Berman (Constructing a PR powerhouse) 27.10.2025 36:29
YouTube: https://youtu.be/fUiwpBCzMrw • Spotify: https://bit.ly/4oUQ62r In this episode of Beyond the Resume, hosts Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker sit down with Sarah Berman, Founder and President of The Berman Group, one of the leading public relations firms in the real estate and construction industries. Sarah shares how her early studies in urban planning led her into the fast-paced world of commu...
Beyond the Resume with Jim Mather (Riding the Mission-Driven Road) 20.10.2025 31:14
In this episode of Beyond the Resume, host Chris Papa talks with Jim Mather, President and CEO of Century Housing. Jim’s story is anything but ordinary — from editing a dirt bike magazine to leading one of the state’s top affordable housing lenders, his career path proves that purpose and curiosity can fuel lifelong impact. Together, Chris and Jim dive into the origins of Century Housing, the pivo...
Beyond the Resume with Sharif Mitchell (The Art of Building a Purpose-Driven Business) 13.10.2025 31:59
👀 YouTube: https://youtu.be/71orqzeqIoo • 👂 Spotify: https://bit.ly/4oUQ62r In this episode of Beyond the Resume podcast, we chat with Sharif Mitchell, a seasoned real estate entrepreneur and the co-founder and CEO of Northern Liberties. Sharif shares his inspiring journey from being a Morehouse College scholarship recipient to a thriving real estate mogul. He emphasizes the role of mentorship,...
Beyond the Resume Podcast (Webinar Series): Fixing the formula in Washington D.C. Affordable Housing 06.10.2025 1:04:35
👀 YouTube: https://youtu.be/vw26kp7vA38 • 👂 Spotify: https://bit.ly/4oUQ62r In this episode of Beyond the Resume, we bring you another edition of our webinar series. Join Chris Papa and Kristin Niver as they lead an urgent discussion on the future of affordable housing in Washington, D.C. The expert panelists unpack the economic, political, and social factors shaping the city’s housing landscape...
Beyond the Resume Podcast with Matt Sullivan (Building communities that lift lives) 28.09.2025 30:12
👀 YouTube: https://youtu.be/-0v5kuRE6ZU • 👂 Spotify: https://bit.ly/4oUQ62r In this episode of Beyond the Resume, hosts Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker sit down with Matt Sullivan, Chief Operating Officer at The Michaels Organization, one of the nation’s largest privately held owners and operators of affordable housing. Matt shares his personal journey from studying politics at Princeton to leading...
Beyond the Resume Podcast with Brian Fishback (Scoring goals in alternative investing) 22.09.2025 31:41
In this episode, we sit down with Brian J. Fishback, Director at Red Stone Equity Partners, to explore how alternative investments are shaping the future of affordable housing. Brian breaks down Red Stone’s $12 billion track record in real estate investment management, the company’s growing focus on preservation housing, and why affordable housing remains one of the biggest challenges in today’s m...
Beyond the Resume Podcast with Tom Collishaw (A life devoted to hope and affordable housing) 15.09.2025 39:04
👀 YouTube: https://youtu.be/jweAvO99hZE • 👂 Spotify: https://bit.ly/4oUQ62r How does a history major from New Jersey end up transforming housing for farm workers in California’s San Joaquin Valley? In this episode, Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker sit down with Tom Collishaw, President & CEO of Self-Help Enterprises, a nonprofit that has pioneered affordable housing solutions since 1965. Tom shar...
Beyond the Resume Podcast with Richard Ross (Housing's New Gladiator) 08.09.2025 39:25
👀 YouTube: https://youtu.be/SJdBFyAKZeM • 👂 Spotify: https://bit.ly/4oUQ62r In this episode of Beyond the Resume, hosts Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker sit down with Richard Ross, CEO of Quinn Residences, to explore the rise of purpose-built single-family rental communities and what it takes to scale a real estate company from the ground up. Richard shares his journey from accounting to real estate...
Beyond the Resume Podcast with Peter DiCorpo (AI, Leadership, and Real Estate’s Future) 02.09.2025 44:31
👀 YouTube: https://youtu.be/VlYaLxptAlw • 👂 Spotify: https://bit.ly/4oUQ62r On this episode of Beyond the Resume, hosts Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker welcome Peter DiCorpo, co-founder of Brook Farm Group, for a candid conversation about his journey from auditor at Arthur Andersen to building a multifamily development company during one of the most challenging real estate markets in decades. Peter...
Beyond the Resume Summer Series w/ Brian Murray (Building Equitable Communities in Philadelphia) 26.08.2025 40:36
👀 YouTube: https://youtu.be/r0kcqCVD4Qs • 👂 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/35ZJGLT In this Summer Series episode of Beyond the Resume, host Chris Papa sits down with Brian Murray, Co-Founder and Principal of Shift Capital, to explore how impact real estate is reshaping Philadelphia’s neighborhoods. Brian shares his journey as a community-focused developer, and how Shift Capital is tackling challenges...
Beyond the Resume Summer Series with Kent Colton (A Masterclass in Housing Policy and Innovation) 18.08.2025 42:24
👀 YouTube: https://youtu.be/RIhtHU0FrRA • 👂 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/35ZJGLT In this Summer Series episode of Beyond the Resume, host Chris Papa sits down with Kent Colton, President of the Colton Housing Group and one of the most respected voices in U.S. housing policy. With over 30 years of leadership experience at organizations like the National Association of Home Builders, Freddie Mac, and...
Beyond the Resume Summer Series featuring Jeff Brenner (Inside the $2B Affordable Housing Playbook) 11.08.2025 39:41
👀 YouTube: https://youtu.be/4ruADHqvsUg • 👂 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/35ZJGLT In this episode of Beyond the Resume, the Summer Series, we bring back the conversation with Jeff Brenner, President & CEO of Impact Community Capital and explore his 30-year journey in affordable housing and impact investing. Jeff shares how a “two-year plan” at a nonprofit turned into a lifelong mission—combining...
Beyond the Resume Summer Series featuring Marie Murphy (Building a Real Estate Empire from Scratch) 04.08.2025 27:50
In this Summer Series throwback of Beyond the Resume, we revisit a powerful conversation with Marie Murphy, Principal and CEO of MJD Capital Partners, a full-service development and management firm based in San Francisco. Marie opens up about her untraditional path into real estate—starting in pharmaceutical sales, pivoting into residential brokerage, and eventually founding her own investment fir...
Beyond the Resume Podcast with Andrew Germansky (Building Housing that Heals) 28.07.2025 37:31
Beyond the Resume Podcast with Andrew Germansky (Building Housing that Heals) In this episode of Beyond the Resume, hosts Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker sit down with Andrew Germansky, Senior Vice President of Real Estate at Westhab, a leading nonprofit affordable housing developer and shelter operator in New York. Andrew discusses his journey from history major to housing leader, the innovations Wes...
Beyond the Resume Podcast with David Kramer (Market-Rate Mindset, Mission-Driven Results) 21.07.2025 43:19
👀 YouTube: https://youtu.be/xiSqXKXpKtA • 👂 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/35ZJGLT In this episode of Beyond the Resume with Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker, we speak with David Kramer , President of Hudson Companies, about his unconventional entry into real estate, his leadership approach, and the values that have guided his work across three decades of urban development in New York City. David shares h...
Beyond the Resume Podcast with Sydne Garchik (Raising the bar on Resident Impact) 14.07.2025 34:32
👀 YouTube: https://youtu.be/PkVVUsrA_Rs • 👂 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/35ZJGLT In this episode of Beyond the Resume, hosts Lisa Flicker and Chris Papa sit down with Sydne Garchik, Founder and President of MRK Partners, for an honest, fast-paced, and often hilarious conversation about building a national affordable housing company while raising a family and disrupting industry norms. Sydne shares...
Beyond the Resume Podcast with Ty Barnes (The Real About Real Estate Investing) 07.07.2025 26:43
👀 YouTube: https://youtu.be/V5eLHRtk-Fw • 👂 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/35ZJGLT In this episode of Beyond the Resume, hosts Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker sit down with Ty Barnes, Head of Investments at Comunidad Partners, for a wide-ranging conversation on leadership, career pivots, and how mission-driven investing is reshaping the future of real estate. Ty shares his unconventional journey — from p...
Beyond the Resume Podcast with Janea Jackson (Housing with Heart) 30.06.2025 40:59
👀 YouTube: https://youtu.be/uqwoJ0Rdq7U • 👂 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/35ZJGLT In this episode of Beyond the Resume, hosts Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker sit down with Janea Jackson, CEO of HomeRise, for a candid and deeply insightful conversation about leadership, legacy, and the urgent work of supportive housing in San Francisco. With roots in sociology and urban planning, Janea shares how her ear...
Beyond the Resume Podcast with Sheri Thompson (Stumbling into Real Estate Executive) 23.06.2025 31:59
Beyond the Resume Podcast with Sheri Thompson (Stumbling into Real Estate Executive) 👀 YouTube: https://youtu.be/v5gg2VJx_9A • 👂 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/35ZJGLT In this inspiring episode, we sit down with Sheri Thompson, Executive Vice President and Head of Affordable Housing at Walker & Dunlop, to talk about navigating the complex world of affordable housing finance, taking risks in your...
Beyond the Resume Podcast with Jeffrey Jaeger (The Affordable Housing Philosophy That Works) 17.06.2025 40:06
👀 YouTube: https://youtu.be/cw1JGKM9blE • 👂 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/35ZJGLT In this episode, Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker sit down with Jeffrey Jaeger, co-founder of Standard Communities, to trace his journey from a philosophy major at Berkeley to building one of the most innovative affordable housing platforms in the U.S. Jaeger discusses the importance of urgency, detail, and kindness in real...
Beyond the Resume Podcast with Brandon Sedloff (Listening, Learning, and Leading with Tech) 09.06.2025 43:13
In this episode of Beyond the Resume, Lisa Flicker sits down with Brandon Sedloff, Chief Real Estate Officer at Juniper Square, for a rich and candid conversation about career pivots, the power of listening, and the evolution of the real estate industry. From his early dreams of becoming a developer to leading tech-forward strategies at Juniper Square, Brandon shares valuable insights on mentorshi...
Beyond the Resume Podcast with Alex Valente (Living the Project: Real Estate Immersed) 02.06.2025 29:13
In this episode of Beyond the Resume, host Lisa Flicker sits down with Alex Valente, a former actor turned real estate developer and Principal at Trammell Crow Company. Alex shares his unconventional journey from the stages of Hollywood to the construction sites of Southern California, including how he leveraged acting, tennis coaching, and a deep curiosity to build a successful career in real est...
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