Beyond the Resume

In this episode, Chris Papa sits down with Matt Wassel of Saxum Real Estate to unpack how the firm evolved from value-add redevelopment in New Jersey to becoming one of the most active cold storage and food-focused real estate developers in the country. Matt explains Saxum’s three core verticals—cold storage and food processing, dry industrial, and residential built-to-rent—and how each aligns wit...

2025 is coming to a close! Join Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker as they reflect on the past year both at Jackson Lucas and on the podcast. From capital raising to the challenges faced in the affordable housing sector the dynamic duo explore the importance of mentorship, personal growth, and staying grounded in a fast-paced world. We take a look back at their favorite episodes and interviews of the yea...

In this Gratitude Throwback episode of Beyond the Resume, host Chris Papa revisits a powerful conversation with Timothy Henkel, SVP and Partner at Pennrose, one of the nation’s leading affordable housing developers. Recorded during the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, the episode explores Tim’s winding career path—from civil engineering to affordable housing development—and the deep sense of purpo...

In this Gratitude Throwback episode of Beyond the Resume, host Lisa Flicker sits down with Carl Shannon, who spent 26 impactful years at Tishman Speyer before shifting his focus to teaching, civic engagement, and giving back to the San Francisco community. Carl reflects on the unexpected breaks that shaped his career, the mentors who guided him, and the philosophy that kept him grounded through ec...

In this special Gratitude Series episode of Beyond the Resume, hosts Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker sit down with Daniel Carr, Co-Founder of Alpaca Real Estate, to explore career pivots, entrepreneurial risk-taking, and the future of innovative real estate investing. Dan walks us through his journey from Brooklyn Tech to JPMorgan, Ares, and eventually launching Alpaca Real Estate—a platform built on...

In this episode, we visit our conversation with Michelle Militello, the Vice President, Equity Asset Management at The Community Development Trust. Michelle shares her extensive background in affordable housing, detailing her transition from banking to community development. She emphasizes the importance of asset management in preserving affordable housing and discusses the skills necessary for su...

YouTube: https://youtu.be/up3jgFm5Xe0 • Spotify: https://bit.ly/4oUQ62r In this episode, Jamie Smarr, CEO of the New York City Housing Partnership, joins Chris Papa to explore how affordable housing can revitalize communities and empower residents. Jamie shares lessons from his 30-year career in government and nonprofit leadership, emphasizing the power of project management, writing, and mentorsh...

YouTube: https://youtu.be/86yt8WvdBr8 • Spotify: https://bit.ly/4oUQ62r In this inspiring episode of Beyond the Resume, hosts Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker sit down with Emily Kurtz, Chief Housing & Development Officer at RiseBoro Community Partnership, to explore her 20-year journey in affordable housing and community development. Emily shares how a sociology degree and a curiosity for cities l...

YouTube: https://youtu.be/fUiwpBCzMrw • Spotify: https://bit.ly/4oUQ62r In this episode of Beyond the Resume, hosts Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker sit down with Sarah Berman, Founder and President of The Berman Group, one of the leading public relations firms in the real estate and construction industries. Sarah shares how her early studies in urban planning led her into the fast-paced world of commu...

In this episode of Beyond the Resume, host Chris Papa talks with Jim Mather, President and CEO of Century Housing. Jim’s story is anything but ordinary — from editing a dirt bike magazine to leading one of the state’s top affordable housing lenders, his career path proves that purpose and curiosity can fuel lifelong impact. Together, Chris and Jim dive into the origins of Century Housing, the pivo...

👀 YouTube: https://youtu.be/71orqzeqIoo • 👂 Spotify: https://bit.ly/4oUQ62r In this episode of Beyond the Resume podcast, we chat with Sharif Mitchell, a seasoned real estate entrepreneur and the co-founder and CEO of Northern Liberties. Sharif shares his inspiring journey from being a Morehouse College scholarship recipient to a thriving real estate mogul. He emphasizes the role of mentorship,...

👀 YouTube: https://youtu.be/vw26kp7vA38 • 👂 Spotify: https://bit.ly/4oUQ62r In this episode of Beyond the Resume, we bring you another edition of our webinar series. Join Chris Papa and Kristin Niver as they lead an urgent discussion on the future of affordable housing in Washington, D.C. The expert panelists unpack the economic, political, and social factors shaping the city’s housing landscape...

👀 YouTube: https://youtu.be/-0v5kuRE6ZU • 👂 Spotify: https://bit.ly/4oUQ62r In this episode of Beyond the Resume, hosts Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker sit down with Matt Sullivan, Chief Operating Officer at The Michaels Organization, one of the nation’s largest privately held owners and operators of affordable housing. Matt shares his personal journey from studying politics at Princeton to leading...

In this episode, we sit down with Brian J. Fishback, Director at Red Stone Equity Partners, to explore how alternative investments are shaping the future of affordable housing. Brian breaks down Red Stone’s $12 billion track record in real estate investment management, the company’s growing focus on preservation housing, and why affordable housing remains one of the biggest challenges in today’s m...

👀 YouTube: https://youtu.be/jweAvO99hZE • 👂 Spotify: https://bit.ly/4oUQ62r How does a history major from New Jersey end up transforming housing for farm workers in California’s San Joaquin Valley? In this episode, Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker sit down with Tom Collishaw, President & CEO of Self-Help Enterprises, a nonprofit that has pioneered affordable housing solutions since 1965. Tom shar...

👀 YouTube: https://youtu.be/SJdBFyAKZeM • 👂 Spotify: https://bit.ly/4oUQ62r In this episode of Beyond the Resume, hosts Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker sit down with Richard Ross, CEO of Quinn Residences, to explore the rise of purpose-built single-family rental communities and what it takes to scale a real estate company from the ground up. Richard shares his journey from accounting to real estate...

👀 YouTube: https://youtu.be/VlYaLxptAlw • 👂 Spotify: https://bit.ly/4oUQ62r On this episode of Beyond the Resume, hosts Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker welcome Peter DiCorpo, co-founder of Brook Farm Group, for a candid conversation about his journey from auditor at Arthur Andersen to building a multifamily development company during one of the most challenging real estate markets in decades. Peter...

👀 YouTube: https://youtu.be/r0kcqCVD4Qs • 👂 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/35ZJGLT In this Summer Series episode of Beyond the Resume, host Chris Papa sits down with Brian Murray, Co-Founder and Principal of Shift Capital, to explore how impact real estate is reshaping Philadelphia’s neighborhoods. Brian shares his journey as a community-focused developer, and how Shift Capital is tackling challenges...

👀 YouTube: https://youtu.be/RIhtHU0FrRA • 👂 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/35ZJGLT In this Summer Series episode of Beyond the Resume, host Chris Papa sits down with Kent Colton, President of the Colton Housing Group and one of the most respected voices in U.S. housing policy. With over 30 years of leadership experience at organizations like the National Association of Home Builders, Freddie Mac, and...

👀 YouTube: https://youtu.be/4ruADHqvsUg • 👂 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/35ZJGLT In this episode of Beyond the Resume, the Summer Series, we bring back the conversation with Jeff Brenner, President & CEO of Impact Community Capital and explore his 30-year journey in affordable housing and impact investing. Jeff shares how a “two-year plan” at a nonprofit turned into a lifelong mission—combining...

In this Summer Series throwback of Beyond the Resume, we revisit a powerful conversation with Marie Murphy, Principal and CEO of MJD Capital Partners, a full-service development and management firm based in San Francisco. Marie opens up about her untraditional path into real estate—starting in pharmaceutical sales, pivoting into residential brokerage, and eventually founding her own investment fir...

Beyond the Resume Podcast with Andrew Germansky (Building Housing that Heals) In this episode of Beyond the Resume, hosts Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker sit down with Andrew Germansky, Senior Vice President of Real Estate at Westhab, a leading nonprofit affordable housing developer and shelter operator in New York. Andrew discusses his journey from history major to housing leader, the innovations Wes...

👀 YouTube: https://youtu.be/xiSqXKXpKtA • 👂 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/35ZJGLT In this episode of Beyond the Resume with Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker, we speak with David Kramer , President of Hudson Companies, about his unconventional entry into real estate, his leadership approach, and the values that have guided his work across three decades of urban development in New York City. David shares h...

👀 YouTube: https://youtu.be/PkVVUsrA_Rs • 👂 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/35ZJGLT In this episode of Beyond the Resume, hosts Lisa Flicker and Chris Papa sit down with Sydne Garchik, Founder and President of MRK Partners, for an honest, fast-paced, and often hilarious conversation about building a national affordable housing company while raising a family and disrupting industry norms. Sydne shares...

👀 YouTube: https://youtu.be/V5eLHRtk-Fw • 👂 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/35ZJGLT In this episode of Beyond the Resume, hosts Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker sit down with Ty Barnes, Head of Investments at Comunidad Partners, for a wide-ranging conversation on leadership, career pivots, and how mission-driven investing is reshaping the future of real estate. Ty shares his unconventional journey — from p...