Beyond Prisons

In this episode I sat down with Natasha Baker, Supervising Attorney for Litigation and Policy at UnCommon Law, to examine a deeply troubling issue unfolding inside California prisons: the use of flawed drug test results to deny people parole.  We start with the basics — what the Medication-Assisted Treatment program is, who it serves, and why drug testing plays a role in it — before uncovering why...

In this episode we explore ways that people are working to build a more caring and care-full world, and to address the harms of our carceral systems whether they are prisons, jails, or hospitals. Some of the people we talk to are interested in engaging with Washington State to change systems, and others are more interested in finding ways to do care otherwise, outside of state systems. This episod...

In this episode we talk about mental and physical healthcare in Washington's prisons.  We speak with Tony Tyson, Queen J, and Darnell Jones, all incarcerated voices in our state, who talk to us about accessing care in prison, and also what they or the people around them have done to get or create care. Content warning: this episode includes first-hand accounts of medical neglect and suicidality in...

In this episode we talk about mental health in jails – what mental health care looks like in jails, how people with disabilities navigate and experience jail, and how activists and organizers have addressed the mental health crisis in urban jails in Washington.  We speak with Jordan Landry, Tony Tyson, Leslie McCallum, KL Shannon and Patreece Spence. Content warning: this episode includes first-ha...

In this episode, we take on the topic of civil commitment and experience. We address hospitalization, the emergency room, and the perspectives of people who work in the system and who receive treatment.  We address ways that civil commitment resembles incarceration. We speak to SYP and Laura Van Tosh, and feature the words of Cindi Fisher – all people whose lives and advocacy have intersected with...

In this episode, we take on forensic commitment, the psychiatric commitment of those who are facing criminal charges but are legally considered not competent to stand trial  We unpack how the jail and state hospital systems are connected with each other through forensic commitment, and how there is a surplus of people in the jails who are awaiting space for beds to open up in the state hospital sy...

In episode one, we introduce this series' central questions: what do the mental health system and the criminal legal system have to do with one another? More to the point, how is improving care in Washington contributing to the expansion of jails, prisons and other spaces of confinement? We frame the whole series by outlining ways that care and incarceration are entangled with one another in Washi...

In-care-ceration is a documentary podcast about how Washington's so-called mental health system is entangled with the carceral system. How do people in need of mental health care end up losing their freedom, whether in a hospital, jail, or prison? How do these institutions care for people? Do they care for people at all? Are community calls for a more caring system having their intended impact? We...

For this episode I sat down with Garrett Felber to talk about their new book, A Continuous Struggle: The Revolutionary Life of Martin Sostre. The book is described by Dr. Orisanmi Burton, author of Tip of the Spear, as "A rigorous examination of Sostre's revolutionary life that offers vital lessons for those seeking to carry on the struggle."    I began our conversation by asking Garret about what...

In this episode I sat down with the amazing Jennifer Viets for a conversation about her work as a restorative justice practitioner in Chicago. We begin by talking about Jennifer's experience with being a grandmother including pushing back against societal expectations, how her work shifted from being individually focused to more community oriented, and we explore some of the lessons she's learned...

Welcome to episode three of  "Over the Wall: The Abolitionist Hour with Critical Resistance." For listeners new to Beyond Prisons or our collaboration with Critical Resistance, this is a new, regular series that premiered in September of 2023. Hosted by members of Critical Resistance's The Abolitionist Editorial Collective, "Over the Wall" discusses articles and key interventions made by Critical...

For  this episode Kim sat down with long-time educator and organizer, Anya Tanyavutti for a conversation about her contribution titled "Shelter and Shower Toward Abolition: A Reflection on Collective Care, Reproductive Justice, and Educational Justice."  Anya Tanyavutti has 25 years of experience working in the fields of education and nonprofit leadership.  She earned her Bachelor's in Elementary...

Kim sits down with Ryan Sorrell, founder of the Kansas City Defender, for a conversation about what motivated him to start a media organization, his early days as a content creator covering community and cultural events with his childhood friend and collaborator, and the influences of the radical Black press had on shaping his thinking and approach to journalism as a tool for liberation.  Ryan is...

Dylan Rodriguez joins Kim for a conversation about respecting his children's autonomous voice, why he named his Fantasy Football team "Uncle Dylan Never Lies," and what that has to do with abolitionist parenting. Dylan shares why he believes that caregivers and parents must take children's questions of 'why?' seriously, and how it is possible to treat why as a radical question that is fundamental...

Garrett Felber joins Kim for a conversation about the campaign to Free the Mississippi Five . The #MS5 are five women in Mississippi sentenced to life with the possibility of parole in the 1980s and 1990s. They have been incarcerated over 175 years and denied parole 47 times. Lisa Crevitt, Anita Krecic, Loretta Pierre, Linda Ross, and Evelyn Smith, collectively known as the Mississippi Five, are n...

Sarah Tyson joins Kim for a spirited conversation about her suspicions about happiness and the intellectual underpinnings that inform why happiness is not a worthy goal in general, but specifically for her children. Sarah and Kim talk about how the work of Sarah Ahmed helps us to understand why the archetype of the killjoy is an important abolitionist parenting framework, and why we can't separate...

Susana Victoria Parras & Alejandro Villalpando join Kim to discuss how, through a continued practice of communal study, they are able to renew their commitment to each other, their child, and to their community in ways that are generative and don't engage in disposability politics or pathologizing their elders and ancestors. This wonderful episode is the first installment of our new series, Lesson...

Beyond Prisons is excited to announce the launch of a special new series titled 'Lessons from the Garden,' where Kim Wilson will be interviewing contributors to the forthcoming anthology that she co-edited with Maya Schenwar, We Grow the World Together: Parenting Toward Abolition .   We Grow The World Together will be out on November 19, 2024 from Haymarket Books, and is now available for pre-orde...

Kim is joined by long-time independent journalist Chuck Modiano for a conversation about movement media making, the importance of media literacy, and the intersection of sports and politics.  Kim and Chuck begin by talking about what motivated him to start covering protests. He opens up about how he was impacted by the killing of Trayvon Martin, and how that tragedy reignited athlete activism in t...

Welcome to episode two of  "Over the Wall: The Abolitionist Hour with Critical Resistance." For listeners new to Beyond Prisons or our collaboration with Critical Resistance, this is a new, regular series that premiered in September of 2023. Hosted by members of Critical Resistance 's The Abolitionist Editorial Collective, "Over the Wall" discusses articles and key interventions made by Critical R...

Josh Davidson and Leslie James Pickering from the Certain Days collective join the show to talk about 2024's Certain Days: Freedom for Political Prisoners calendar and the work of their collective. We previously spoke with Josh and other folks from the collective back in 2020 and we encourage you to go listen to that episode if you haven't heard it yet.  Josh and Leslie spoke to us about the works...

This is the first episode of  our new series titled "Over the Wall: The Abolitionist Hour with Critical Resistance." This will be a regular series on Beyond Prisons, hosted by members of Critical Resistance 's The Abolitionist Editorial Collective, in which they will discuss articles and key interventions made by Critical Resistance's cross-wall, bilingual newspaper, The Abolitionist . The first e...

CONTENT WARNING: This episode contains discussions of sexual violence. Kim and Brian discuss Mark E. Kann's "Penitence for the Privileged: Manhood, Race, and Penitentiaries in Early America." This essay is a chapter in the book Prison Masculinities, edited by Don Sabo, Terry A. Kupers, and Willie London. Our wide-ranging conversation examines the role of prisons in early America as a tool for sort...

For this episode, Kim sat down with Jeanie Austin, a Bay Area librarian and academic who focuses on library services for incarcerated people, and Sarah ball, a New York City public librarian working inside jails and prisons providing access to books and information for criminalized and incarcerated people and their families. We explore the multifaceted role of prison libraries, and the challenges...

In this follow-up to our six-year anniversary episode, Kim shares some of what she has been going through in recent years. We recommend you listen to that previous episode before listening to this one. You can support Kim on Cash App at https://cash.app/$BeyondPrisons Credits Created and hosted by Kim Wilson and Brian Sonenstein Website & volunteers managed by Victoria Nam Support Beyond Prisons V...