Andrew Pledger
Beyond BJU: Exposing Fundamentalism
Join Andrew Pledger in exposing Bob Jones University, a school known for its culture of indoctrination and control. BJU is a fundamentalist Christian college with roots in white supremacy and authoritarianism. The monthly podcast features survivors' stories from the university, and its affiliated churches, camps, and day schools. The show also explores BJU's influence beyond the university and its impact on American society. This show is a continuation of the limited series "Surviving BJU: A Christian Cult.” Join my Patreon for bonus episodes and other exclusive content: https://www.patreon.co...
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Episodes
Episodes Coming 2026 08.11.2025 1:44
Host Andrew Pledger thanks listeners for their support and announces changes for the next season. The podcast will shift its focus to exploring how controlling systems disconnect us from ourselves, their impact on our minds and bodies, and the path to recovery and reconnection. Andrew encourages listeners to stay subscribed for updates on the new episodes and details coming next year. Andrew's Lin...
Klandamentalism w/ Dr. Camille Lewis 28.09.2025 54:29
In this episode, host Andrew Pledger speaks with Dr. Camille Lewis about her new book 'Klandamentalism.' The conversation delves into the historical and contemporary ties between Christian fundamentalism, white supremacy, and authoritarianism connected to Bob Jones University. They discuss survivor stories, the influence of Bob Jones University on American society, and recent updates about the uni...
The Old and The New Promise w/ Erin Burchwell 27.09.2025 54:00
In this episode, host Andrew Pledger interviews Erin Burchwell, who delves into the broken promises of Bob Jones University, particularly focusing on the 'Old Promise', an endowment fund meant to support long-time faculty in their retirement. The discussion highlights the ongoing struggles of retired faculty, the university's failure to uphold its commitments, and the troubling culture within the...
Finding Freedom w/ Kate 26.09.2025 41:41
In today's episode, Kate shares her journey from being raised in the Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) movement to becoming an accidental advocate and activist. She discusses her experiences with emotional and spiritual abuse, her formation of the Blue Shirt Coalition in support of sexual abuse survivors from her Christian High School, and the impact of her advocacy efforts. Kate also touches...
Mental Health and BJU w/ Elizabeth 24.09.2025 45:03
In this episode, host Andrew Pledger talks with Elizabeth, a survivor of Bob Jones Academy and University. They discuss Elizabeth's struggles with mental health, the stigma surrounding it in fundamentalist Christian environments, and specific incidents that highlighted the emotional and psychological challenges she faced. Elizabeth shares personal stories about her family's mental health history,...
Speaking Out: Protesting Jim Berg w/ Eleanor Skelton 16.09.2025 1:00:04
In this episode, host Andrew Pledger welcomes Eleanor Skelton, an advocate for awareness about abuse in homeschooling and restrictive religious circles. Eleanor shares their experiences growing up in the Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) movement, their family's attempts to shelter them by steering them towards institutions like Bob Jones University (BJU), and their eventual escape. They discu...
From Silence to Protest: Do Right BJU w/ Chris Peterman 18.08.2025 35:12
In this episode, host Andrew Pledger interviews Chris Peterman, a Bob Jones University alum and activist who led the Do Right BJU movement. Chris shares his experiences growing up in fundamentalist Christian environments, his realization of his sexual identity, and his awakening to the problems within these institutions, particularly around issues of abuse. The episode delves into Chris's journey...
Perverted Justice w/ Shielagh Clark 21.07.2025 46:05
In this episode, host Andrew Pledger speaks with Shielagh Clark, a survivor of abuse tied to Bob Jones University and an affiliated church. Shielagh shares her harrowing journey of abuse beginning at age 15, and how she was failed by both the school and her church community. She details her involvement with the Grace Report, the challenges she faced in seeking justice through both criminal and civ...
Confronting Shame: Women and Mental Health in Fundamentalism w/ Rebekah Knauf 26.05.2025 1:00:42
Host Andrew Pledger explores the impact of Christian fundamentalism, particularly at Bob Jones University (BJU), by interviewing of Rebekah Knauf, a survivor who attended and graduated from BJU from 2015-2018. Their discussion covers numerous topics, including restrictive religious environments, mental health struggles, the enforced modesty culture, and the systemic victim-blaming within fundament...
Finding Home: Navigating Neglect and Abuse w/ Stephanie 12.05.2025 1:14:16
In this episode of Beyond BJU, host Andrew Pledger interviews Stephanie, who shares her experiences growing up in an Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) church pastor’s family. Stephanie reveals her struggles with spiritual, physical, and emotional neglect and abuse, detailing the severe conflicts between her parents that marked her childhood. She discusses her life-changing experiences at The W...
Breaking the Silence (GRACE Report Interviewee) w/ Sheri Cotuna 28.04.2025 1:05:05
In this powerful episode, Sheri Cotuna shares her harrowing experience of sexual abuse while a student at Bob Jones University and the subsequent mishandling of her case by the university administration. Sheri is featured in GRACE's investigation report of Bob Jones University. In the episode, she recounts her traumatic encounter, the dismissive and shaming responses from university officials, and...
Season Finale/Update 16.12.2024 1:05
In this clip, I announce a break and the outsourcing of editing for recorded episodes of season two. I express my heartfelt thanks to everyone who supported and listened, especially the courageous survivors who shared their stories. I appreciate your continued support on Patreon to expedite the episode releases and wish everyone a wonderful holiday season. See you next season! JOIN MY PATREON: htt...
10th Anniversary of the GRACE Report - Uncovered Berg "Counseling" Materials 11.12.2024 3:19:47
Today marks the 10th anniversary of the Grace Report, which investigated Bob Jones University's mishandling of sexual abuse claims. In this episode, I share previously unreleased audio files that reveal the harmful ‘counseling’ by Jim Berg. These files were originally tapes that were given to Sheri Cotuna by Berg for further ‘counseling” for her sexual assault. Additionally, I discuss the ongoing...
Trump Presidency: A Cult Survivor's Perspective w/ Andrew Pledger - IndoctriNation Podcast 08.11.2024 34:24
In this special episode of the Indoctrination podcast , host Rachel Bernstein discusses the aftermath of the election with Andrew Pledger. They share their initial reactions and delve into the impact of the election results on survivors of high-control groups. The conversation explores the emotional turmoil, fear, and triggers associated with the election, highlighting the significance of communit...
Discovering My Queer Identity - Lane White 28.10.2024 51:36
In this episode, Lane White, a transgender individual and a former BJU student, shares his journey of self-discovery. Lane recounts his upbringing in a Baptist household, his experiences at BJU, and the challenges of conforming to its strict rules. He discusses navigating gender identity, coming to terms with his sexuality, and facing expulsion. Lane's story sheds light on the impact of fundamenta...
Just A Number - Jay Cozzini 14.10.2024 1:04:45
Jay Cozzini shares his journey from an isolated upbringing in Alaska to attending Bob Jones University. Jay offers an insider perspective on the culture at BJU and recounts experiences of exploiting loopholes in their strict rulebook. He reveals the challenges faced as a Calvinist student, details his active role in a silent protest against mishandled abuse cases linked to BJU and highlights the s...
Never Good Enough - Daisy 30.09.2024 44:58
In this episode, I welcome Daisy back and she delves into her harrowing experiences at BJU and the Wilds Christian Camp. Daisy recounts instances of religious indoctrination, physical and emotional abuse, and the manipulative control tactics employed by the institutions. She bravely shares the painful memories that were recently unlocked, shedding light on these toxic environments that left lastin...
Dorm Counselor’s Confessions: The Reality of BJU Life - Amanda Koth 16.09.2024 1:10:49
In this episode, I have an insightful conversation with Amanda Koth a former dorm counselor at Bob Jones University (BJU). Amanda shares her journey from growing up in a conservative Baptist community to her experiences at BJU as a resident assistant (RA), eventually transitioning into her role as a dorm counselor. She provides a rare glimpse into the stringent and invasive regulations enforced by...
A Well-Trained Wife - Tia Levings - Special Episode 26.08.2024 42:13
In this episode I speak with Tia Levings, who bravely shares her journey of escaping Christian patriarchy and introduces her memoir, ' A Well-Trained Wife .' We discuss her traumatic experiences in fundamentalism and her courageous path to freedom. Tia also delves into the broader implications of fundamentalism on women and her healing journey, including her upcoming book 'The Soul of Healing.' Th...
Part 4. Exposing The Wilds: Uncovered Counseling Booklet - Tabitha Frady 08.08.2024 2:13:58
In part four, Tabitha Frady and I conduct a deep dive into the Wild Counseling Notebook from 2016, uncovering the toxic teachings and ideologies of The Wilds. We meticulously dissect its contents, including the camp's mission statements, core values, and abusive counseling methods. The discussion highlights extreme behavioral expectations, the dismissal of mental health struggles, and the victim-b...
Part 3. Exposing The Wilds - Tabitha Frady 07.08.2024 2:09:26
Part three continues to bring to light the disturbing realities within The Wilds, a Christian camp associated with Bob Jones University. Through the testimony of Tabitha Frady, the episode divulges the camp's inadequate handling of sexual abuse reports, favoring biblical counseling over professional assistance, and its advocacy for forced forgiveness and victim-shaming. The discussion extends to t...
Part 2. Exposing The Wilds - Tabitha Frady 06.08.2024 2:08:30
In part two, Tabitha Frady returns to recount her experiences at Bethany Baptist Church and its affiliated Christian camp, The Wilds, in North Carolina. Starting work at the camp at 14, Tabitha endured grueling work conditions, poor nutrition, and inadequate compensation. The discussion reveals the camp's regimented schedule, indoctrination practices, and emotional manipulation, including sleep de...
Part 1. Exposing The Wilds: Bethany Baptist in Brevard - Tabitha Frady 05.08.2024 1:30:05
In part one, Tabitha June Frady recounts her harrowing experiences growing up in the church-cult Bethany Baptist Church in Brevard and working at the Wilds Christian Camp in Brevard, NC. Regarding the church, she describes the authoritarian control, emotional and physical abuse, and isolation from her family that characterized her upbringing. The discussion delves into the psychological manipulati...
Is Education Really Indoctrination? - Rachel Bernstein LMFT, MSEd 29.07.2024 52:58
In this episode, I talk with Rachel Bernstein LMFT, MSEd who is also a cult specialist and the host of the IndoctriNation Podcast . In this discussion, Rachel aims to define the subtle line between education and indoctrination. I also dig into my own experiences to explore the subtle tactics used to control information and manipulate beliefs. Together we discuss the warning signs of indoctrination...
Unseen, Unheard: An Autistic Student's Journey at BJU 15.07.2024 1:19:44
In this episode, we dive into the experiences of Daisy, who was raised in the IFB movement and is a stay-at-home daughter. She was forced to attend BJU in 2008, right after the death of her best friend. Despite her plea to take time off to grieve, she was pushed into an environment where she was labeled a "trouble student" from day one. Unaware of her autism at the time, Daisy grappled with academ...
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