Between Us Podcast

Motherhood changes everything—but not always in the ways we're told. In this episode, Catherine and Elena reflect on how becoming mothers transformed their identities, challenged their assumptions, and reshaped the way they think about purpose, partnership, and personal growth. Together they explore the tension between ambition and family, the messages women receive about motherhood today, and...

Everyone wants a village. But building one is harder than it sounds. In this episode, Catherine and Elena explore motherhood, friendship, community, and the growing longing many people feel for deeper connection. Together they discuss what it means to show up for one another, create belonging, and become the kind of villager we hope to find. Because maybe the question isn't where the village i...

Why do relationships feel so hard right now? Catherine and Elena explore friendship, community, social media, political differences, and the loneliness many people are feeling in modern life. Together they discuss what it means to build a village, stay connected across disagreement, and create relationships rooted in curiosity rather than sameness. Because maybe the question isn't just where o...

In Episode 2 of Between Us, Catherine shares the story behind years of perfectionism, spiritual fear, people pleasing, and the deep longing to belong. From growing up in rural Michigan after an early childhood in Alaska, to wrestling deeply with faith, identity, and what it meant to be “good,” Catherine opens up about the inner world she carried for years while trying to live up to expectations an...

Mother’s Day wasn’t originally created for brunches, flowers, or greeting cards. It began as something far more radical. A peace movement led by women who believed mothers held a unique power to heal division, preserve humanity, and call people back to one another. In this snack episode, Catherine and Elena dive into the forgotten origins of Mother’s Day through the stories of Julia Ward Howe and...

What happens when the way you’ve always seen the world stops making sense? In this first episode of Between Us, we begin with Elena’s story. From growing up in deeply politicized spaces on the South Side of Chicago to questioning everything she once believed, Elena shares what it looked like to confront her own contradictions, step away from groupthink, and choose a different way of being. This is...