Michael Koenig
Between Two COO's with Michael Koenig
Between Two COOs is hosted by veteran COO Michael Koenig and brings together Chief Operating Officers, executives, and business leaders to share real insights on operations, leadership, scaling, AI, and execution. Featuring COOs from companies like LVMH, Vodafone, Automattic, Lime, JumpCloud, Grafana Labs, and Cotopaxi, plus top VCs like Brad Feld and Seth Levine. Whether you're a COO, VP of Ops, founder, or aspiring operator — this is the podcast for people who actually run companies. New episodes weekly. betweentwocoos.com | b2coos.com
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Mar 5, 2026
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Episodes
AI Agents Need Logins Too: Identity, Security, and the Future of AI | Greg Keller, CTO, JumpCloud 05.03.2026 32:02
Get 90 days of Fellow free at Fellow.ai/coo In this episode, Michael Koenig speaks with Greg Keller, co-founder and CTO of JumpCloud, about identity access management and why it’s becoming one of the most important operational systems in the age of AI. Greg explains how traditional identity systems were designed for office-based companies running Microsoft infrastructure and why that model broke a...
Seth Levine of Foundry Group on Capital Evolution, AI, and the Future of Company Leadership 28.01.2026 48:26
Get 90 Days of Fellow's incredible AI notetaker for free at fellow.ai/coo Guest: Seth Levine Book: Capital Evolution Podcast: Between Two COOs Host : Michael Koenig What we cover Why Seth wrote Capital Evolution and why now Why today’s economic shift is structural, not cyclical How power has moved from public institutions to businesses What companies are being asked to carry that they weren’t buil...
Brad Feld On The Emotional Operating System of Great Leaders and Giving First 20.01.2026 57:22
Get Brad's new book, Give First . 00:00 — Cold open: “Something new is fucked up in my world every day” 02:00 — The Yoda t-shirt story + the mythology of Brad Feld 04:00 — “Give First” vs. “Pay it Forward”: philosophy, not obligation 07:00 — Why giving isn’t altruism — and how it works in complex systems 10:00 — Positive-sum vs. zero-sum: tennis, trust, and long games 13:00 — Does giving create ou...
AI, Fraud, and the Next Era of Commerce with Peter Dougherty, President of Spreedly 10.12.2025 45:42
This episode goes deep into the mechanics of scaling a company from steady growth to breakout velocity. Peter shares how Spreedly quadrupled ARR growth in his first year without increasing OPEX, why the “right people pointed at the right problems” is everything, and how to decide which problems are existential versus learn-as-you-go. We dissect how go-to-market organizations evolve from $20M to $1...
The Power of Calm: GuideCX COO Harris Clarke on Building Trust and Systems That Hold 13.11.2025 58:30
Get 90 Days of Fellow's AI Meeting Assistant FREE at fellow.ai/coo This week on Between Two COOs , Michael sits down with Harris Clarke , COO at GuideCX , to talk about what steady leadership actually looks like inside fast-changing companies. Harris started his career in protocol and operations for the U.S. Department of State , where “process” wasn’t just a buzzword — it was survival. He share...
The COO Who Turns Chaos Into Clarity - Anna Elwood of Cascade 28.10.2025 38:29
From Zocdoc to Cascade, COO Anna Elwood breaks down the systems, rhythms, and AI tools that turn chaos into execution. In this episode of Between Two COOs, Michael sits down with Anna Elwood, COO of Cascade, the strategy-execution platform helping companies turn plans into results. Anna shares how she evolved from Broadway actor to operator, scaling companies like Zocdoc, Knotel, and Teachable b...
Automattic Chief Quality Officer, Lance Willett, on What It Takes to Power 45% of the Web and Learning from a $250K Mistake 23.07.2025 52:42
Try Fellow's AI Meeting Copilot - 90 days FREE - fellow.app/coo Guest: Lance Willett, Chief Quality Officer at Automattic Topics Covered: How Automattic’s open source culture evolved over 20 years What a Chief Quality Officer actually does—and why it matters Quality = Craft × Context, and how that feedback loop scales Automattic’s AI strategy: support bots, contextual UI, and site generation The i...
Linda Tong, Webflow CEO, on the new web, AI-powered ops, and how they run Webflow 08.07.2025 1:12:56
Get 90 days of Fellow's AI meeting assistant at fellow.app/coo Why Linda still codes on weekends — and what it teaches her about the future of AI (6:00) How AI is changing what Webflow builds — and how fast they build it (3:30–13:00) What happens when websites are no longer built just for humans (14:00) The rise of AEO (Answer Engine Optimization) and what it means for ops (17:00–21:00) Favorite L...
Kustomer COO & President, Doug Hanna, on Building Agentic AI, Running Sales, and Structuring Modern Ops Teams for the AI Era 04.06.2025 46:25
Get 90 days of Fellow's AI meeting assistant at fellow.app/coo In this episode, Doug and I cover: Why “AI agent” is more than just a buzzword The difference between deflection and resolution in AI-powered support How Kustomer structures RevOps, GTM, and forecasting What it means to operate with high-context vs. generic playbooks How Doug thinks about team structure, ownership, and cross-functional...
Sales Assembly President, Brad Rosen, on Unlocking Growth and Why RevOps Is Critical for Sustainable Scaling 29.04.2025 46:20
Get 90 days free with Fellow's AI Meeting Assistant - https://fellow.app/coo Key Takeaways: RevOps aligns and optimizes sales, marketing, and customer success, ensuring efficient and sustainable growth. Effective RevOps requires balancing strategic planning, data-driven analytics, and tactical execution. Successful RevOps integration hinges on clear communication, cultural alignment, and strateg...
The Bold Pivot: From Meetings to AI with Aydin Mirzaee, CEO of Fellow 15.04.2025 47:20
Try Fellow's AI Meeting Copilot - 90 days FREE - fellow.app/coo Timestamps: (02:00) Fellow’s shift from productivity tool to AI assistant. (07:00) Implementing large-scale organizational change. (13:00) Managing change and internal communications. (20:00) Moving toward an agentic, automated workflow future. (23:00) Unexpected real-world AI uses at Fellow. (29:00) Privacy, security, and enterprise-...
AI and Privacy: Navigating the EU's New AI Act & the Impact on US Companies with Flick Fisher 01.04.2025 36:44
Try Fellow's AI Meeting Copilot - 90 days FREE - fellow.app/coo AI and Privacy: Navigating the EU's New AI Act with Flick Fisher In this episode of Between Two COOs, host Michael Koenig welcomes back Flick Fisher, an expert on EU privacy law. They dive deep into the newly enacted EU Artificial Intelligence Act and its implications for businesses globally. They discuss compliance challenges, prohib...
Cut Your SaaS Costs: COO Justin Etkin on Smarter Procurement 05.02.2025 43:33
Don't forget to check out www.fellow.app/coo for a 90-day free trial of their AI Meeting Assistant. [00:00] Introduction – Michael introduces Fellow as a trusted AI meeting assistant. [01:00] Welcome to Between Two COOs – Introducing Justin Etkin and Tropic.io. [02:00] The evolution of procurement – From cost-cutting to strategic value creation. [05:00] When should companies start formalizing proc...
True Search Managing Director Evan Grossman on how to land your next C-Suite role 21.01.2025 48:41
This episode is powered by Fellow AI Meeting Assistant. Get 90 days free at fellow.app/coo Key Takeaways: • Hidden C-Suite Job Market: The majority of C-level roles are filled through networking, talent partners, and executive recruiters before job postings are even considered. • Role of Networking: Building strong relationships within your industry and maintaining top-of-mind positioning with dec...
Vestwell COO Jon Mark on applying strategy and tactics to build a multi-billion dollar company 08.01.2025 53:29
Episode Overview In this episode of Between Two COOs , host Michael Koenig interviews Jon Mark, COO of Vestwell, a leading provider of digital platforms for workplace savings and investment programs. Vestwell supports nearly 25,000 small businesses, over a million savers, and $25 billion in assets under management across all 50 states. They discuss Vestwell’s mission to close the savings gap, its...
HomeToGo COO Valentin Gruber Talks M&A, Strategic Planning, and Taking the Multi-Billion Dollar Company Public 16.07.2024 49:16
In this episode of Between Two COOs, host Michael Koenig sits down with Valentin Gruber, COO of HomeToGo, to explore the inner workings of the vacation rental aggregator and its strategy. HomeToGo went public via a SPAC in 2021, reaching a valuation of $1.2 billion after raising $150 million in VC funding. Valentin shares insights into the company’s growth, its approach to balancing marketplace an...
School of Rock COO Stacey Ryan on Navigating Crises, Change, Leadership, and Empowerment 23.04.2024 43:08
Navigating Leadership and Innovation at School of Rock with Stacey Ryan In this episode of Between Two COOs, host Michael Koenig interviews Stacey Ryan, the COO of School of Rock - a global music school franchise. Stacey debunks a common misconception about the business's origin, noting it predated and inspired the 2003 film. She discusses the operational challenges of managing a global franchise,...
Fellow CEO Aydin Mirzaee on Mastering Productivity and Efficiency with AI 09.04.2024 1:07:20
Maximizing Meeting Efficiency and Navigating Management Challenges: Insights from Aidan Mizrahi of Fellow This episode delves into the complexities and potential inefficiencies of meetings in the professional world, emphasizing the staggering number of unproductive meetings held daily. Highlighting the innovative approach of Shopify in canceling recurring meetings to save significant time, the con...
Cameron Herold of COO Alliance and 1-800-got-junk on How to delegate, lead, fix problems, hire and promote, and be the second in command 13.02.2024 37:41
Presented by Fellow.app. Streamline your meetings and make them more efficient and meaningful. Get Fellow for you and your team today. Head to https://fellow.app/coo/ to get started and start having better meetings. (00:12) Advice for CEOs and COOs This chapter welcomes Cameron Harold, the founder of COO Alliance and author of "The Second In Command," as we celebrate the release of his new boo...
EU vs AI: What You Need to Know About the EU's AI Act - The Legal Opinion with Flick Fisher, Partner at Fieldfisher 30.01.2024 33:24
Could the EU's new AI Act be the cornerstone of global AI regulation? That's what we're here to unpack with the expert insight of Flick Fisher, a leading privacy specialist and partner at Fieldfisher. As the digital age accelerates, the European Union is setting a precedent with the AI Act, a groundbreaking legislation designed to navigate the complex terrain of artificial intelligence. Flick and...
Productboard COO Greg Strickland on how to balance growth and innovation, collecting mentors and personal development, managing through change, SMB to enterprise shift, and the competitive advantage of startups 24.01.2024 52:02
Join us as Greg Strickland, COO of Productboard, and I explore the power of embracing new opportunities and the crucial balance between business outcomes and personal advancement. Greg shares his journey of growth through accepting challenges that push boundaries, and we reflect on the times when a strategic 'no' can pave the way for others' development and align with company goals. Listen in for...
Get Your Guide COO Tao on Building a $2 Billion Dollar Travel Experience Giant 09.01.2024 48:50
(01:20 - 02:44) The Travel Experience Market's Growth (04:36 - 06:03) Peer to Peer Tour Guide Platform (07:27 - 09:26) Learning and Customer Obsession Importance (12:35 - 13:56) Creativity and Execution in Strategy (16:11 - 17:06) Identifying Core Values for Company Culture (21:48 - 23:03) Accelerating Digitization and the QR Code (36:32 - 37:43) Investment Strategy and Flywheel Approach (39:48 -...
Doist COO Allan Christensen on remote ops, perfecting hiring, designing ops for career development, the ideal employee feedback loop 19.12.2023 38:46
(00:12) Interview With Remote COO Alan Christensen COO Alan Christensen shares his journey and Duist's success without institutional investment, pioneering remote work and dividing responsibilities with CEO. (11:48) Future of Remote Work and Communication Remote work's significance in shaping the future, utilizing asynchronous communication, transparency, and documentation for effective mana...
Rewind.ai & Optimizely CEO & Founder, Dan Siroker, on augmenting human memory with AI, building Optimizely, AI in operations, privacy and security, hiring and building extraordinary teams, and AI's impact on STEM education 05.12.2023 58:48
(05:11 - 05:38) Memory and the Evolving Digital Age (06:56 - 08:05) Tech and Memory Retrieval (11:40 - 12:51) Chat GPT and Data Privacy Integration (17:34 - 18:44) Leveraging AI for Company Augmentation (22:34 - 23:47) AI for Efficiency and Exceptional Hiring (30:31 - 31:01) Pivoting to Capture Meeting Data (38:38 - 39:00) COO and Chief of Staff Collaboration (43:27 - 44:27) Using Cultural Values...
Arcadia COO, Kate Hennigsen, on Clean Tech and Disrupting the Energy Market, Non-Traditional Backgrounds for Working in Tech (and Ops!), Energy Regulation, M&A, Board, Risk, and Cash Management, & the Power of a Well Written Cold Email 21.11.2023 43:26
(00:12) Clean Tech and Disrupting Energy Market (06:15) Community Solar and Renewable Energy Innovation (15:37) Data Platform and Energy Transformation (24:21) Acquisitions, Integration, and Board Composition (29:05) Startup Board Management and Risk Balancing (35:51) Leadership, Growth Mindset, and Overcoming Challenges (42:18) Connecting Through Cold Emails (00:12) Clean Tech and Disrupting Ener...
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