Between the Walls

Matt and Dana Harvey (Home of the Harveys) join us for round three, and this time they're bringing news: after six years of full-time content creation, they've both stepped into full-time ministry — Dana as Director of Accounting and Matt as Senior Director of Digital Discipleship. We talk about what it actually looks like to say yes to God when it doesn't make sense on paper. Dana walks us throug...

Our final thoughts on this saga we are going through and answering a question sent in by a listener. 

We're back — and we have a lot to say. Year four of marriage brought us some of the best moments we've shared together, and honestly, the hardest. In this episode, we're finally opening up about something we've kept close: after three years of trying to conceive, we traveled to Greece to do IVF — and it didn't work. We're not sharing this from the other side of healing. We're sharing it from the m...

A listener wrote in with one of the most relatable situations we've heard — she caught feelings for her guy friend, told him, and he said he wasn't ready... but maybe in the future. Now she's stuck between protecting her heart and not wanting to lose one of the most important people in her life. This week, we're getting into all of it — the power shift that happens the moment feelings are out in t...

We're talking about church hurt — and we're not gonna pretend it isn't real. From abuse covered up by boards to leaders who weaponize Jesus, we see you. But we're also asking the harder question: is walking away from church altogether actually protecting you, or is it costing you something? We get into what the body of Christ was always meant to be, how to vet a church before you commit, and why t...

A listener sent in one of the hardest questions we've gotten: her two close friends — both Christians — just started dating each other, and they're both women. She loves them deeply, disagrees with their relationship theologically, and has no idea what to do. We sat with this one for a minute because honestly? It's not simple. In this episode we talk about what it actually looks like to love someo...

We're back — and we're getting into something that's behind so much confusion in dating, relationships, and honestly life in general: being ruled by your feelings instead of your convictions. From situationship decisions made at 2AM, to driving 90 minutes just to drop off a note (yes, that happened), to a very recent disagreement about a cat and an open door — Jonathan and Jess get personal about...

He bought a house. You thought a ring was next. That was two years ago. This week we're in the listener questions and we're not being gentle about it — if he can't make a decision at 33, that tells you everything. We're also tackling whether you can build a life with someone who's a good person but not a believer. Spoiler: it's mango season.

We're not gonna sugarcoat it — we've been in a drought. Four months. Zero brand deals. Zero new income. And a whole lot of conversations between us about whether we're doing enough, saving enough, trusting enough. This week, we're getting raw about what it actually looks like to trust God when provision feels absent — not as a sermon, but as a confession. We're talking financial pressure, the prid...

Everyone's got a theory on why they're single — bad luck, no good options, wrong city. But what if the answer is a little closer to home? In this episode, Jess and Jonathan get into the real reasons people stay stuck in singleness — and none of them are what you think. From wanting it so bad you're pushing people away, to being too picky for the wrong reasons, to just not doing the inner work — th...

A listener wrote in with a dilemma a lot of couples quietly face — her boyfriend told her she'd need to give up drinking if they were going to get married. She doesn't think drinking is wrong. He's a church leader whose congregation doesn't condone it. And she loves him more than she loves alcohol. So what's the problem? The problem is the reason behind the ask. Jonathan and Jess unpack the differ...

What happens when love isn't enough to hold a marriage together? In this episode, we sit down with our close friends Julie and Miguel Cepeda — married eight years, parents, and two of the most honest people we know — as they take us through the full arc of their relationship. From a Tinder match in 2016 and a year of no contact, to a long distance relationship built on a lie, to a marriage that ne...

We went to the Kendrick Lamar concert. And honestly? We probably shouldn't have been there. In this episode, Jonathan and Jess get into one of those conversations that's equal parts conviction and self-check — what content are we actually letting in, and what is it doing to us? From the Sinners debate to secular music to binge-watching to those romance novels with dragons in them, we're talking th...

We're revisiting one of our very first conversations — submission — but this time with almost four years of marriage under our belts. Back when we first talked about this, we were barely a year and a half in. A lot has changed. A lot has also stayed the same. In this episode, we get into what submission actually looks like in a real marriage, where it comes from in Scripture (hint: Ephesians 5 sta...

What actually causes marriages to fall apart?   Is it money? Communication? Intimacy? Or something deeper that most people miss?   In this episode, we sit down with Jonathan’s parents—married 33 years and experienced marriage counselors—to talk about what they’ve seen in both thriving and struggling relationships. From real-life stories to hard-earned wisdom, this conversation gets honest about wh...

In this honest and vulnerable conversation, Jess and Jonathan talk about a topic that doesn’t get discussed enough — backsliding.   What does it really look like to drift from God? Is it a sudden fall, or a slow fade? And how do you find your way back?   They share personal experiences and unpack: The difference between struggling with sin and becoming comfortable in it What it looks like to live...

Season 3 starts now. After a long break (and a full kitchen reno), Jess & Jonathan are back—catching you up on what’s changed, what God’s been teaching them, and why they’re moving differently this year. In this episode, they talk about: What it’s like rebuilding rhythm after a long pause The hard truth about fasting (and how it exposes what we really rely on) Why “perfect” social media couple...

We’re back with a life update and answering some of the questions you all sent in! From navigating our fertility journey to talking about choosing your partner over Instagram, online dating, and everything in between—this episode is honest, unfiltered, and full of laughs. Whether you’re here for the wisdom or the wild takes, there’s something in this one for you.

In this episode, we tackle some thought-provoking questions sent in by our listeners! From navigating past attractions and identity, to balancing relationships and social media, we cover it all. Plus, don’t miss our Black Movie Draft at the beginning, where we pick our favorite films! Join us for a fun and real conversation about relationships, love, and everything in between.  

Dating can be confusing, but setting standards doesn’t have to be! In this episode, we dive into the big questions—Do looks really matter? What are the biggest red flags? How do you define your non-negotiables? Whether you’re single, dating, or just figuring it all out, we’re having an honest, faith-filled conversation on what truly matters in relationships. 

Before you jump into dating, let’s talk about what it really means to be ready for a relationship. In this episode, we break down the importance of intentional singleness, knowing your worth, and preparing yourself emotionally and spiritually before stepping into dating. We also tackle the pressure from society (and the church) to rush into marriage, the pitfalls of dating without purpose, and why...

How do you know if it’s really God speaking to you? In this episode, we dive into what it means to recognize God’s voice in everyday life. From building a deeper relationship with Him to understanding the difference between His guidance and our own thoughts, we’re breaking down practical ways to tune in and listen. If you’ve ever wondered, Am I really hearing from God?—this episode is for you.

Why is saying “no” so hard? In this episode, we dive deep into the struggles of setting boundaries, overcoming people-pleasing, and learning to protect your time and energy. Whether it’s relationships, work, or commitments that drain you, we’re unpacking how to confidently say “no” without guilt. Because at the end of the day, prioritizing your peace isn’t selfish—it’s necessary. Tune in as we dis...

Explore the transformative power of ultimatums in relationships. From tough decisions to life-changing commitments, join us as we navigate the complexities of love, timing, and the pursuit of happiness.

In this candid episode of Between the Walls, Jonathan and Jessica dive deep into the struggles of overcoming pornography, shame, and the importance of self-control. They share their personal journeys of battling temptation, the impact on their relationship, and the healing process through faith. This conversation is about confronting hidden struggles, finding redemption, and learning to walk in Go...