Between Hope and Heartbreak

Nicole interviews Pamela Henkelman —empty nest coach and host of the Midlife Momma Podcast —about the overlap between empty nesting and estrangement , and the identity shift moms face when a long-held role changes. In this conversation, Pamela shares: The shift from a directing role to a supporting role with adult children How to process transitional grief   Why it’s important to ground your worth...

In this deeply honest and faith-filled episode, we explore estrangement, healing, and reconciliation from a Christian mother’s perspective.  A powerful interview with Sally Harris , a mom who has walked the painful road of estrangement and experienced reconciliation with her daughter. Sally shares her personal journey through heartbreak, surrender, and spiritual growth, offering encouragement to m...

The holidays can deepen the ache of estrangement. In this episode, Nicole Coates shares how estranged moms can navigate the holiday season with honesty, faith, and gentleness. Through the story of Mary and the unexpected realities of motherhood, Nicole offers encouragement for mothers carrying grief, unanswered prayers, and disrupted dreams. You’ll hear practical ways to protect your heart, set he...

Waiting can feel unbearable—especially in estrangement. In this episode, Nicole Coates shares why these seasons are sacred and how God works in the waiting, even when nothing seems to change. Through Scripture and the story of Hagar, you’ll find hope for the wilderness you’re walking through. Mentioned in this episode: Finding Hope in the Heartbreak: A Prayer Workbook for Moms of Estranged or Dist...

In this episode, Nicole opens up about the deep valleys so many estranged moms find themselves in—those seasons where heartbreak, confusion, and grief collide. Using Billy Graham’s powerful reminder that “mountaintops are for views and inspiration, but fruit is grown in the valleys,” she shares how God uses the lowest places to grow resilience, faith, and hope. Nicole also shares practical steps f...

In this heart-to-heart episode, I sit down with Lynne Berry as she shares her emotional journey through estrangement. Lynne opens up about the moment she found out her son had moved out of the country—something she didn’t even know was happening—and the wave of shock, confusion, and grief that followed. She talks honestly about the misunderstandings that were never cleared up, the ache of being se...

In this episode, Nicole begins with a personal anecdote about an introverted mishap at the Boise Co-op. Nicole then transitions to a heartfelt discussion on preparing for the emotional challenges of the holiday season, particularly for those experiencing estrangement. Nicole emphasizes the importance of allowing oneself to grieve unmet expectations while still practicing gratitude. She also provid...

In this episode, Nicole Coates talks about passive-aggressive comments with compassion and honesty—reminding listeners that we all fall into these patterns sometimes. Instead of shame, Nicole focuses on why these moments happen and how they can become opportunities for healing, clarity, and healthier communication. She shares how passive-aggressive reactions often come from unspoken hurt or fear,...

In this first solo episode of 'Between Hope and Heartbreak,' I discuss the evolution of the podcast from 'Motherhood in the Messy Middle', highlight the decision to focus solely on estrangement, and share my personal experiences. Discover past episodes that delve deep into my story, and learn about the community built around this theme. I invite listeners to share ideas and eng...

In this episode, we explore the emotional complexities faced by parents dealing with estrangement from their children. We discuss the invisible rules and shifting standards parents feel they must navigate, the importance of making personal changes, and the frustration of not being able to demonstrate that progress. The conversation touches on the necessity of letting go of impossible standards and...

Robin announces her departure from the show to focus on her holistic wellness practice, while Nicole prepares to continue the podcast, focusing on supporting mothers dealing with estrangement. They reflect on their deep virtual friendship, the challenges of midlife motherhood, and their continued mission to normalize 'the messy middle.' The episode is filled with emotions, gratitude, and...

This week, they discuss their approaches to Halloween traditions, from costume planning to navigating trick-or-treating with neurodivergent children. Learn about the unique ways they create a fun, inclusive, and stress-free Halloween experience for their families. Whether you're dealing with young kids, teens, or navigating midlife changes, this episode offers heartfelt advice, plenty of laug...

This episode focuses on navigating estrangement, managing difficult emotions, and seeking personal growth, all while maintaining honesty and hope. They share practical tips on grounding yourself in the present moment, the power of prayer, and the importance of honoring one's current state. Join the conversation as they tackle the messy middle of motherhood and midlife with humor, realness, an...

In this heartfelt episode of 'Motherhood and the Messy Middle,' hosts Robin and Nicole delve into the complex topic of grief, especially in relation to estrangement. They share personal experiences and insights, emphasizing the multi-layered nature of grief, whether through the loss of a loved one or a significant life change. Throughout the discussion, they explore the importance of con...

In this episode of 'Motherhood and the Messy Middle,' hosts Robin and Nicole dive into the complexities of estrangement and grief, especially as they pertain to motherhood and midlife.  Robin and Nicole discuss their personal experiences with estrangement, the challenges it brings, and the importance of creating supportive, judgment-free spaces. They introduce the concept of a virtual vi...

Join Robin and Nicole in the second season of 'Motherhood and the Messy Middle.' This episode sets the stage for a season filled with themed miniseries on challenging topics such as estrangement, difficult conversations, holidays, and personal growth. Robin and Nicole provide life updates, reflecting on the transitions they've navigated, from new jobs to supporting their families. W...

In this episode of Motherhood and the Messy Middle, hosts Robin and Nicole discuss the unexpected detours life can take, such as job loss and general uncertainty. They dive into the concept of 'holy interruptions' and how these moments, although disruptive, can lead to spiritual and emotional growth. Nicole shares her recent experience of both she and her husband being laid off on the sa...

In this episode of 'Motherhood and the Messy Middle,' hosts Robin and Nicole delve into their personal memories of September 11, 2001, discussing how the traumatic event has shaped their lives and worldviews. As they share their distinct experiences of that day—one from a homeschooler's perspective and the other from a sophomore in college—they explore the broader implications of na...

In this episode of Motherhood in the Messy Middle , hosts Robin and Nicole explore the real challenges women face in midlife—hormonal imbalances, weight changes, and the pursuit of overall wellness. Through personal stories and practical advice, Robin introduces her Balance Your Body Method , a holistic approach combining meditation, mindset, movement, and mindful nourishment. They break down the...

In this episode of Motherhood and the Messy Middle, Robin and Nicole dive into the complexities of planning family travel. They discuss how managing trips can feel as challenging as running a small business, from logistics and schedules to managing meltdowns and emotions. The hosts share personal stories and practical tips on how to prepare mentally and emotionally for travel, delegate responsibil...

In this episode of 'Motherhood and The Messy Middle,' Robin and Nicole explore the emotional complexities of the back-to-school season. They discuss the mix of excitement and anxiety that accompanies sending children back to school, varying parenting styles, and the logistical challenges involved. They delve into the different ways families handle school preparation, the impact of struct...

In this episode of Motherhood and the Messy Middle, hosts Robin and Nicole discuss the challenges moms face during summer when routines collapse, and the home is always bustling with kids. Sharing personal anecdotes, they explore strategies for managing sensory overload, creating small structured routines, and setting realistic expectations to maintain mental health. They emphasize the importance...

In this episode of Motherhood and the Messy Middle, Robin and Nicole continue their deep dive into the complexities of estrangement. They discuss the emotional layers, offer compassionate support, and share small steps forward for those experiencing distance or silence with their children. Nicole opens up about her personal journey, emphasizing the importance of community and the strength found in...

In this vulnerable conversation, Nicole opens up about her personal journey of navigating the heartbreaking estrangement from her oldest daughter. Together, they explore what estrangement really means, the emotional toll it takes—not just on moms, but on the entire family and the spiritual lessons God continues to teach in the midst of deep grief. Robin and Nicole emphasize the importance of holdi...

⚠️ Trigger Warning: This episode includes discussion of domestic violence and the loss of a parent. Please take care while listening. If these topics are sensitive or activating for you, feel free to skip this one or listen when you feel emotionally safe. In this episode of 'Motherhood and the Messy Middle', Robin and Nicole explore the complex emotions and dynamics that surface during f...