Destaney Wishon and Justin Nuckols

Better Advertising with BTR Media

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Better Advertising with BTR Media is a podcast for Amazon sellers & the ecommerce community to share strategies to optimize & scale online brands with Amazon PPC, Amazon DSP, Walmart Connect, Instacart, Target & more. Your hosts, Justin Nuckols & Destaney Wishon, talk with other advertisers, online sellers, & brands dominating their categories on Amazon.

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Destaney Wishon and Justin Nuckols

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Latest episode

Jun 30, 2026

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Episodes

How Amazon Live Is Connecting Creators, Content, and Commerce 30.06.2026

In this episode, Destaney sits down with Julie Haleluk from Amazon Live to talk about the rise of shoppable video, creator-led commerce, and how brands can use Amazon Live to build trust, create demand, and connect the dots across the customer journey. They discuss why video should be viewed as a full-funnel campaign amplifier, how AMC is making measurement stronger, and why brands that move fast...

AI Won’t Replace Strategy 23.06.2026

AI is changing retail media fast, but that does not mean strategy is going away. In this episode, Destaney is joined by Adam Mellott, Head of Service Delivery, Training, and Education at Better Media, to talk through how AI is reshaping internal training, Amazon Ads, and the way teams learn. They cover Adam’s experience at the Prosper Show AI Hackathon, the development of BTR University, and why A...

Future Beauty Brands Went From Declining to Double Digits 09.06.2026

In this episode of Better Advertising with BTR Media, Destaney sits down with Ana Sviatschi, Director of Digital Commerce at Future Beauty Brands, to talk about what it really takes to grow in today’s beauty and ecommerce landscape. Ana shares her journey from Unilever to Bayer to Future Beauty Brands, and breaks down why brands often chase the “next shiny thing” before fixing the basics. From con...

Stop Comparing RMNs Like They’re the Same 27.05.2026

Every retail media network gives brands another way to reach the consumer. But more opportunity also means more complexity. In this episode, Laura Pattison joins Destaney to talk about what brands need to understand before adding new RMNs into their media mix. They cover targeting differences, creative opportunities, auction models, data access, attribution windows, in-store attribution, and why m...

Inside a $3M Amazon Launch 12.05.2026

Launching a brand on Amazon in 2025 isn’t easy—but it’s far from impossible. In this episode, Destaney and Zach Bican break down how his team scaled a brand from $0 to $3M in ordered revenue in just 12 months—earning a nomination for Most Effective Commerce Media Campaign at The Drum Awards this year. If you think Amazon is too saturated or too expensive to launch on, this episode challenges that....

CTV, Fire TV, and the Funnel You’re Missing 28.04.2026

Streaming TV isn’t just a brand play anymore. In this episode, Gibby breaks down how brands should be thinking about CTV, Fire TV, and upper funnel strategy in 2026, from when to invest (earlier than you think) to why a high-intent-only approach is limiting growth. He covers how to use existing search and DSP data to inform TV targeting, where brands go wrong with audience segmentation, and why cr...

Duke Cannon Keeps It Simple 14.04.2026

There’s never been more to do on Amazon. New ad formats, tools, and ways to reach customers. And somehow, that’s the problem. In this episode, Destaney and Josh Webb discuss what it really takes to grow on Amazon right now as a challenger brand. Not in theory, but in practice. If your Amazon strategy feels scattered, this will help you refocus. Connect with Destaney on Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/de...

Brand Building Beyond ROAS Jail 31.03.2026

In this episode, Isa joins the podcast to talk about what brands miss when they focus too narrowly on ROAS. From her experience on the brand side and now at BTR Media, she breaks down why awareness still matters, why the path to purchase is anything but linear, and how strong brands connect media, creative, and ecommerce to drive growth. Connect with Isabella on Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/isabella-...

Why Duke Cannon Rebuilt Its Amazon Strategy 17.03.2026

Duke Cannon built its brand through retail shelves and loyal fans, but turning Amazon into a true growth channel required a very different strategy. In this episode, Destaney sits down with Josh Webb, Director of E-commerce at Duke Cannon, to unpack what it really takes to scale Amazon inside a retail-first brand. Josh shares how his team navigated the shift from a 3P model to 1P, solved major pri...

How Brands Are Scaling with Amazon DSP Performance Plus 12.03.2026

Amazon’s DSP has a reputation for being powerful but complicated. Justin and Gibby break down Amazon DSP Performance Plus, an AI-driven campaign type designed to simplify programmatic advertising. They discuss how it works, when brands should use it, and how it can drive both new customer acquisition and incremental growth when used alongside traditional DSP strategies. Connect with Justin on Link...

Energy Drinks, Fire TV & the Future of Amazon Ads 03.03.2026

Destaney and Sage talk about Sage’s journey from scaling ecommerce at Celsius Energy Drinks to leading strategy at BTR Media and how that brand side experience shapes the way she approaches Amazon today. They discuss what it actually looks like to build demand instead of just harvesting it, and why upper funnel initiatives like Amazon Fire TV are driving more performance than most marketers expect...

Is Retail Media Ready for AI Ads? 17.02.2026

Ads inside AI are no longer hypothetical. In this episode, Destaney and Kiri Masters unpack what OpenAI’s ad announcements mean for retail media, discovery, and the future of advertising. From Amazon and Walmart to brands navigating uncertainty, this conversation explores why context may matter more than clicks in the next phase of retail media. Connect with Kiri on Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/kiri-...

How Rhino USA Scaled from Amazon to Walmart 03.02.2026

What does it really take to go from Amazon success to physical retail shelves? In this episode, Destaney is joined by TJ Hyland, VP of Sales at Rhino USA, to break down Rhino’s journey from marketplace growth to nationwide Walmart distribution. They discuss why social media (especially TikTok) plays a critical role in driving in-store sales, how to think about omnichannel attribution, and the bigg...

Retail Media is a Moving Target 22.01.2026

Destaney sits down with Laura Pattison, BTR Media’s new VP of Retail Media, to break down what’s changing across Amazon, Walmart, TikTok Shop, and beyond and what it takes to build a retail media strategy that actually scales. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

The Foundation we Built in 2025 16.12.2025

A candid 2025 recap with Destaney and Alex on what it actually took to scale BTR, from investing in A-players and internal tech to protecting culture in a fast-moving industry. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

DSP Strategy in the AI Era 02.12.2025

Destaney talks with Gibby, BTR Media’s Head of DSP, to break down how he uses AMC, DSP, and AI tools like ChatGPT to build custom reports and audiences that actually prove incremental value. Gibby shares how he went from zero coding experience to writing SQL for AMC, how to turn black box data into actionable insights, and why strong prompts and strategy matter more than ever in Amazon Ads. Connec...

Inside the Retail Media Super Bowl 21.11.2025

Amazon unBoxed 2025 delivered some of the biggest shifts we have seen in retail media. In this episode, Destaney and Gabi break down the announcements that matter most from Creative Studio updates to Rufus search behavior to the rise of natural language tools inside Ad Console. #amazonads #retailmedia #amazonadvertising #aiinmarketing #creative #unboxed #rmnews Connect with Destaney on Linkedin: l...

Stop Underspending During BFCM Lead In 20.11.2025

Black Friday / Cyber Monday is the busiest and most competitive shopping moment of the year, but most brands still make the same mistakes. In this episode, Justin breaks down what to do (and what not to do) during the T12 period, Amazon’s “Turkey 12” lead up to deal week. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info...

How Hyperice Turns Awareness Into Amazon Sales 18.11.2025

From LeBron to TikTok, awareness is officially performance. Destaney and Justin share how Hyperice, Natrol, and Lucky Energy use creative campaigns and full-funnel strategy to turn brand buzz into real Amazon growth. Connect with Destaney on Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/destaney-wishon Connect with Justin on Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/justinnuckols See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and C...

Bring Your Brand to Life on Amazon 04.11.2025

New interactive modules, quizzes, and video tools are changing how customers shop on Amazon. Destaney and Day Tomko explain what’s live now, what’s coming next, and how to get first mover advantage before everyone else catches on. Connect with Day on Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/day-tomko-26916864 Connect with Destaney on Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/destaney-wishon See Privacy Policy at https://art19.c...

Budgets, Buyers, and the Bigger Ecosystem 21.10.2025

What makes a Walmart shopper different from a Target shopper? And why does it matter for your ad dollars? Destaney and Nick unpack how audiences behave differently across retail media networks–and how brands can align their goals with the right channels instead of spreading themselves too thin. Connect with Nick on Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/n-amos Connect with Destaney on Linkedin: linkedin.com/in...

Your New Creative Coworker: Amazon’s Agentic Creative Studio 09.10.2025

This isn’t just another AI launch. Destaney and David Meers break down Creative Studio’s new agentic experience, a major step toward fully intelligent creative production. From generating entire storyboards from a single ASIN to instantly remixing your content by audience or season, they explore how advertisers can move from idea to asset to iteration in record time. Think of it as your new creati...

How Chubbies Broke the ROAS Addiction 07.10.2025

What do you do when your ROAS starts looking great, but your growth stalls? Preston Rutherford, co-founder of Chubbies and founder of Marathon, joins Destaney to talk about one of the biggest challenges performance marketers face: knowing when it’s time to shift from pure demand capture to true demand creation. In this episode, Preston shares the real story behind how Chubbies scaled, where ROAS s...

What’s Working (and Why) for Lacoste on Amazon 25.09.2025

Scaling a big brand on Amazon doesn’t always come down to budget, especially when you're managing 13,000+ ASINs in a category like apparel. In this episode, Destaney and Cal Kildow break down what’s actually working for Lacoste right now, and how they’re making smart, strategic moves without overcomplicating it. In this episode: How we prioritized 13,000 ASINs with limited budget The role Sponsore...

Inside Amazon’s New Creative Studio 17.09.2025

Amazon just announced a major update to Creative Studio at Accelerate, giving advertisers an agentic creative partner that can concept, storyboard, and produce images and video from start to finish. Destaney, Joe, and Jennyfer break down how the new features work, what this means for brands of every size, and why relevance and speed to market are becoming the biggest competitive advantages on Amaz...

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