Behind The Checkout
Behind the Checkout
Gr4vy’s Behind the Checkout is your pass to the evolving world of payments. In each episode, we sit down with industry leaders, innovators, and disruptors to explore the latest trends, challenges, and breakthroughs shaping the future of payments. Tune in and rethink payments with us. Gr4vy is a no-code payment orchestration platform that empowers enterprises with full control to automate, customize and optimize their payment strategy effortlessly.
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Jun 26, 2026
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What would you rebuild in your payment stack? - John Lunn & Michael Habermann - Behind The Checkout 26.06.2026 26:05
What would you do differently if you rebuilt your payment stack today? In this episode of Behind the Checkout, John Lunn sits down with Michael Habermann, Senior Director of Operations at Radial Commerce Solutions, to explore the hard lessons merchants have learned from years of payment technology decisions. From legacy infrastructure and PSP dependencies to orchestration, platform-driven commerce...
Is the Decline of Card Networks Unpreventable? - John Lunn & Hans Morris - Behind The Checkout 08.05.2026 28:34
Are card networks losing their dominance? In this episode of Behind the Checkout, Gr4vy CEO John Lunn sits down with Hans Morris, Managing Partner at NYCA Partners and former Visa President, to unpack the future of cards amid real-time payments, open banking, digital wallets, regulation, and A2A disruption. A deep dive into the economics, technology, and global forces reshaping the next era of pay...
Fintech vs. Banks - John Lunn & Rene Pelegero - Behind The Checkout 03.04.2026 28:01
Who’s driving the future of financial innovation, fintechs or banks? In this episode of Behind the Checkout, Gr4vy CEO John Lunn sits down with Rene Pelegero, President & Managing Director at Retail Payments Global Consulting Group, to debate the strengths, weaknesses, and future of both sides, from digital wallets and real-time payments to regulation, trust, and the next wave of disruption.
Payments are no longer about transactions - John Lunn & Galit Shani-Michel - Behind The Checkout 03.03.2026 26:26
Are payments still just about moving money, or are they becoming the key to truly knowing your customer? Gr4vy CEO John Lunn sits down with Forter’s Galit Shani-Michel to unpack how payments data can unlock personalization, loyalty, and smarter fraud prevention, and why the future of commerce depends on turning transactions into deeper customer insights.
The Future of Payments: What’s Next for Commerce? - John Lunn & Davide Villa - Behind The Checkout 06.02.2026 25:06
In this episode of Behind the Checkout, Gr4vy CEO John Lunn talks with Davide Villa from Edgar, Dunn & Company about the future of payments, where AI, regulation, and real-time rails converge. Discover the trends redefining global commerce, the challenges facing merchants and fintechs, and what every payments professional should prepare for next. Listen and subscribe for more insights on the evolu...
Is there a place for anti-fraud checks in a world of liability shift? - John Lunn & Vanita Pandey - Behind The Checkout 05.01.2026 27:41
Liability shift changed the game for merchants, but did it also change the rules for fraud prevention? In this episode of Behind the Checkout, Gr4vy CEO John Lunn sits down with Vanita Pandey, CMO at Microblink, to unpack whether anti-fraud tools still belong in a world where the liability isn’t yours. They explore the tension between risk, conversion, and cost, and whether stepping back from frau...
Are P2P payments failing? - John Lunn & Daniel Kornitzer - Behind The Checkout 05.12.2025 29:41
Are Pix and UPI changing payments—or just overhyped? Gr4vy CEO John Lunn talks with EBANX’s Daniel Kornitzer about the challenges and limitations of P2P rails, what’s holding them back, and their real potential for global commerce.
Why is interchange higher for Card not Present when it is arguably now more secure? - John Lunn & Anand Goel 03.11.2025 29:15
Why is card-not-present (CNP) interchange still higher—despite major advancements in online payment security? In this episode of Behind the Checkout, Gr4vy CEO John Lunn is joined by Anand Goel, Founder & CEO of Optimized Payments, to explore the outdated logic behind today’s interchange fees. They discuss how tokenization, 3DS2, and strong customer authentication have reshaped CNP security, why l...
Where are we with Pay by Bank payments and when will it become the norm? - John Lunn & Alexandre Gonthier 06.10.2025 38:08
In this episode of Behind the Checkout, Gr4vy CEO John Lunn speaks with Alexandre Gonthier, Founder and CEO of Trustly, Inc, about the rise of Pay by Bank payments and the challenges holding back global adoption. They explore the role of real-time rails, fraud risks, trust dynamics, and the importance of orchestration in scaling account-to-account solutions. Listen in for expert insights on when P...
Who Really Owns the Checkout? The Battle for the Last Click - John Lunn & Marko Medenica 22.09.2025 27:26
In this episode of Behind the Checkout, Gr4vy CEO John Lunn talks with payments strategist Marko Medenica about the growing battle over checkout ownership. As platforms embed payments and merchants push for greater control, the checkout has become a strategic flashpoint in digital commerce. They discuss the shift from PSP-led checkouts to platform-controlled experiences, the risks of vendor lock...
Making AI Pay: What happens to payments when Agentic AI takes over the checkout? - John Lunn & Soups Ranjan 01.09.2025 28:30
In this episode of Behind the Checkout, Gr4vy CEO and Founder John Lunn sits down with Soups Ranjan — Co-founder and CEO of Sardine, and one of the sharpest voices in fraud prevention — to unpack the reality of agentic commerce and what it means for the future of payments. From AI agents negotiating and paying without human approval to the rise of “machine customers,” they explore how transaction...
Invisible Payments: The tech powering frictionless transactions - John Lunn & Colin Luce 04.08.2025 32:02
In this episode of Behind the Checkout, Gr4vy CEO John Lunn talks with Colin Luce, Co-founder and CEO of Basis Theory, about the innovations driving invisible payments. From tokenization to embedded finance, they explore how seamless, behind-the-scenes transactions are reshaping customer experiences and what merchants need to know to stay ahead. Tune in for insights on balancing frictionless comme...
Wallet Wars 2.0 - John Lunn & Steve Klebe 04.07.2025 38:24
Gr4vy CEO John Lunn is joined by payments veteran and former Google executive Steve Klebe to explore the fierce competition—and future—of digital wallets. From adoption trends to merchant pain points and integration best practices, this episode breaks down what’s powering (and stalling) wallet growth today. Tune in for a behind-the-scenes look at Apple Pay, Google Pay, Click to Pay, PayPal, and wh...
What's hot in Payments? - John Lunn & Dwayne Gefferie 10.06.2025 39:12
Gr4vy CEO John Lunn is joined by payments strategist Dwayne Gefferie to break down the most talked-about trends in payments right now. From the rise of new payment methods and global infrastructure shifts to the growing role of orchestration, this episode explores what’s shaping the future of commerce—and what merchants need to do to keep up.
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