David Nilsen
Bean to Barstool
A podcast exploring the intersections of craft beer and craft chocolate.
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David Nilsen
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Jul 7, 2026
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Episodes
Everybody Is Welcome: Celebrating Beer with Em Sauter of Pints & Panels 24.05.2022 40:58
“With Pints & Panels, every beer flavor is welcome, every beer geek is welcome, every newcomer is welcome. Everybody is welcome.” In this episode we’ll talk with Em Sauter, a fellow Advanced Cicerone and the creator of Pints & Panels, a cartoon that celebrates beer and provides educational resources for folks curious to learn more about our favorite drink. Em is the author of two books, th...
Trust Your Dopeness: Hannah Ferguson of DOPE Cider House & Winery 10.05.2022 41:52
“People are seeing, ‘Hey, if this girl from Youngstown can do it, why can’t I?’ I think it just takes someone seeing someone who looks like them to see it’s a possibility.” In this episode we talk with Hannah Ferguson, a brewer of beer, a maker of cider and wine, and the founder of D.O.P.E. Ciderhouse & Winery , which will open soon in Youngstown, Ohio. Hannah was the first Black female profes...
New Zealand Beer & Chocolate Writer Luke Owen Smith (Ep. 37) 19.04.2022 45:18
“There are challenges with chocolate that beer didn’t have to overcome. The main one is around price, and that’s because beer didn’t have this history of exploitation and slavery behind its core ingredient. When you start trying to do the ethical thing, you have this huge price jump, and that takes time for consumers to get their head around.” Luke Owen Smith lives in Wellington, New Zealand, and...
Painting Flavor with Artist Katie Clark Gabbard (Ep. 36) 05.04.2022 48:06
“With beer and chocolate, they’re about so much more than just creating something that tastes good. There’s a story that’s trying to be told if you just take the time to try to go on that journey and listen to what your senses are telling you.” Katie Clark Gabbard is a professional artist working in Dayton, Ohio, creating vividly colorful paintings in unexpected formats, using the very shape and t...
Quick Bonus Episode: Asheville Beer & Chocolate 29.03.2022 9:19
Despite its relatively small size, Asheville, North Carolina, is in the conversation for being the best city for craft beer in the country, with dozens of excellent breweries, including two of the country’s largest craft breweries in Sierra Nevada and New Belgium. They’re also home to one of the best bean to bar chocolate companies in the country as well. I recently spent a weekend in Asheville t...
Quick Bonus Episode: Recent New Belgium Chocolate Beers 01.03.2022 5:03
New Belgium Brewing is one of the largest craft breweries in the country, but they do plenty of small batch experimentation, and they have a particular specialty in beers made with cacao nibs and husks. We’ve talked about a few of those beers previously, and in this quick bonus episode, we look at a few of their recent beers that use ethically sourced cacao from Nuance Chocolate in Fort Collins, C...
Beer & Chocolate Collaborations (Ep.35) 15.02.2022 20:42
Beer & chocolate belong together. In today’s episode we’ll look at a number of recent chocolate and beer collaborations, including beers made with ethically-sourced cacao and craft chocolate made with beer or beer ingredients. Hopefully you discover some new tasting experiences to try out, or if you’re a brewer or chocolate maker, some inspiration for a new project. Just be sure you let me kno...
Cleveland Chocolate with Noble Beast Brewing (Ep. 34) 01.02.2022 29:15
"I think each chocolate can say something different in each of its own settings. I think it’s more of what you’re looking for it to say to you. You can sit on your couch and essentially travel around the world with chocolate." Rebecca Hess is the founder and chocolate maker at Cleveland Chocolate Company in Cleveland, Ohio. Rebecca was a classically trained fine dining chef who fell in l...
Omnom Chocolate (Ep. 33) 18.01.2022 41:08
“Chocolate should be fun. It should be a fun experience to eat it. We grow up eating it as candy, and what we produce is for adults, for the kid inside all of us.” Kjartan Gíslason is the founder of Omnom Chocolate in Reykjavik, Iceland. Omnom is known not only for their delicious and creative bean to bar chocolate, but for the colorful packaging and marketing that presents the spirit of Omnom to...
Favorite Beers & Chocolates of 2021 04.01.2022 42:50
Join me for a look back at my favorite beers and chocolates of 2021, with some pairings along the way. After you’ve listened to the show, I’d love to hear your own favorites from this bizarre trip around the sun. In the episode, you’ll also hear favorites from some of my friends in the beer and chocolate worlds. You’ll hear from: Ruvani de Silva is a prolific and talented beer journalist living in...
10 Years of Videri Chocolate (Ep. 31) 07.12.2021 50:06
“From the first moment I touched a bag of beans, roasted them, and winnowed them, I was absolutely hooked.” Sam Ratto is the founder of Videri Chocolate in Raleigh, North Carolina. Videri is celebrating its 10th anniversary on December 15, and makes a full line of single origin and inclusion bars, as well as bonbons and other confections, and they also provide cacao in various forms for numerous b...
Quick Bonus Episode: Hooray for Hazel with Ratza Chocolate 16.11.2021 5:11
Sara Ratza at Ratza Chocolate in Tarpon Springs, Florida, loves craft beer almost as much as she loves chocolate, so working with neighboring breweries was always part of her plan. She recently provided cacao to Brighter Days Brewing , just a 5 minute walk from her shop, for a beer called Hooray for Hazel, a bourbon barrel-aged Imperial Stout brewed with hazelnuts, lactose, and cacao. In this quic...
Nostalgia Chocolate (Ep. 30) 02.11.2021 57:19
“I use [chocolate tasting] as a bit of a yogic moment to find some peace and quiet and sit back and enjoy what I’m eating.” - Tyler Cagwin, Nostalgia Chocolate When I talk to chocolate makers or other chocolate professionals about the tasting experience, what drew them to chocolate, and what happens when they close their eyes with a piece of chocolate on their tongues, nostalgia is the word that c...
The Imaginative Founders of Rabid Brewing (Ep. 29) 19.10.2021 39:17
“The satyr is the fun-bringer, and that is really what we wanted the spirit of this place to be. A poetic hub of fun.” - Tobias Cichon, Rabid Brewing co-founder The large, hand-painted mural above the Rabid Brewing taproom in Homewood, Illinois, depicts a mythical origin story for beer in which fantastical creatures pour the golden elixir out for the denizens of this imaginary world. Fantasy and...
Quick Bonus Episode: Natalya Watson on Becoming a Better Beer Taster 12.10.2021 9:27
How do we become better beer tasters and get better at describing the flavors in our beer? Natalya Watson is a Beer Sommelier and Advanced Cicerone® passionate about sharing her knowledge of beer with others because she believes that beer is simply too delicious to remain undiscovered. She’s the founder of Virtual Beer School , host of the ‘Beer with Nat’ podcast , and author of Beer: Taste the Ev...
Chocolate and Witch Trials with Megan Giller (Ep. 28) 05.10.2021 25:49
“Chocolate acted as a central vehicle of women’s ritual power, and was a flashpoint for women’s disorderly behavior in public settings.” - Martha Few in her article “Chocolate, Sex, and Disorderly Women in Late 17th and Early 18th Century Guatemala” as quoted by Megan Giller Chocolate is a plant-based food or drink in which the main ingredient—the seed of a tropical tree—is ground and melted and m...
Quick Bonus Episode: Beer Tasting Party Themes 28.09.2021 4:51
Need the perfect theme for your at-home beer tasting party with friends? I just published a full guide to hosting your own beer tasting at home on the Bean to Barstool blog, but the one thing I didn’t include was possible themes for your tasting. Listen to this super quick bonus episode for some great ideas to help you choose beer styles for your tasting event, and then read that full guide to hel...
Witches, Alewives, and Beer History with Dr. Christina Wade (Ep. 27) 21.09.2021 34:41
It’s exciting for people to learn this history about women in brewing in Medieval Europe and feel like they’re part of a story, but I think it’s important that we’re telling the right story and the story that’s based on primary-source information. In recent years, associations have been made between depictions of Medieval alewives and our modern day image of witches, from pointy hats to cauldrons,...
Quick Bonus Episode: WeldWerks Double Chocolate Medianoche Imperial Stout with Cultura Chocolate 14.09.2021 4:42
This decadent Barrel-Aged Imperial Stout was brewed with Belize, Guatemala, and Mexico cacao from a beloved bean to bar chocolate maker. Weldwerks Brewing in Greeley, Colorado, recently partnered with Denver bean to bar chocolate maker Cultura Chocolate on a variant of their legendary Medianoche Imperial Stout that’s all about the chocolate. Double Chocolate Medianoche was aged for 24 months in 5-...
Traveling Through Chocolate with Sanna Forslund (Ep. 26) 07.09.2021 42:34
“As long as I have my mind and memories and a chocolate, I can go wherever I want.” - Chocolate educator Sanna Forslund Our senses are made of magic (driven by really cool science) and engaging our senses by tasting chocolate can transport us to other places and times, summon memories, evoke emotions, and provoke imagination. Today’s guest is a chocolate educator who uses chocolate as a way to tr...
Pairing Beer & Chocolate (Ep. 25) 17.08.2021 36:35
When you’re pairing beer and chocolate, you aren’t pairing a meal; you’re pairing a moment. So how do you make that moment the best it can be? There are some special considerations when it comes to pairing craft beer and bean to bar chocolate, and in this episode I walk some of through those, offering tips on how to pair chocolate and beer. I also share some of my favorite beer and chocolate pair...
Conduits of Wonder—Tasting Beer & Chocolate with Our Hearts, Minds, & Senses (Ep. 24) 03.08.2021 47:47
Our senses can be conduits of wonder, transporting us to places we’ve been before and places we’ve only dreamed of, connecting us to past versions of ourselves and to the other people around us. In this episode we talk about tasting good beer and good chocolate with all of our senses, a process that engages our memories, emotions, and imaginations as well. We discuss the process of tasting craft b...
French Broad Chocolates & Burial Beer Bonbons (Ep. 23) 14.06.2021 12:38
What could be better for Father Day’s than bean to bar chocolate bonbon bars made with amazing craft beer? French Broad Chocolates in Asheville, North Carolina, has once again partnered with Asheville’s Burial Beer on a series of four “bean to bonbon” bars , and they’re as complex, elegant, and indulgent as the beers they’re made with. In today’s episode we talk about and taste through French Broa...
Loon Chocolate (Ep. 22) 01.06.2021 44:14
There are countless similarities between the worlds of craft beer and bean to bar chocolate, and few people know that as well as Scott Watson. Scott was a professional craft brewer in the 1990s when craft beer was just beginning to gain national attention. After leaving the craft beer world, he eventually discovered bean to bar chocolate and founded Loon Chocolate . In today’s episode Scott share...
Honey in Brewing Beer and Making Chocolate 18.05.2021 1:11:31
Honey bees are so cool. A honey bee worker lives for just 5 or 6 weeks during the summer, but in that time she’ll fly about 500 miles visiting 20,000 individual flowers. She’ll fly until her wings literally start to fail and fall off, and by the end of her life she’ll have made about a 1/12 of a teaspoon of honey. There were several beverages in antiquity that were fermented from honey, many of w...
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