David Nilsen
Bean to Barstool
A podcast exploring the intersections of craft beer and craft chocolate.
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David Nilsen
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Jul 7, 2026
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Episodes
Bite Sized: David Herrick of Foundry Chocolate on Whisky Chocolate R&D 07.07.2026 4:55
Welcome to Bean to Barstool Bite Sized, where we spend about 5 minutes on a specific topic in craft beer, craft chocolate, or artisan drinks. Today we're talking with David Herrick of Foundry Chocolate in New Zealand. David takes us behind the scenes of the R&D process for developing their esteemed Whisky bars released annually. Enjoy! You can listen to the entire episode this clip is fro...
Media Relations for Craft Chocolate Makers: Identifying Your Company's Stories 30.06.2026 31:42
Welcome to Bean to Barstool's Media Relations for Craft Chocolate Makers series! I’ve been a full time food and beverage journalist for about a decade now, and my wife and business partner, Melinda Guerra, has been a freelance PR professional helping brands tell their stories and connect with media for even longer than that, and in this series, we’ll be sharing what we’ve learned over our car...
The Past, Present, and Future of Women of Cacao 23.06.2026 45:17
In this episode, host David Nilsen talks with Ava J Holmes and Fiorella Richter, the founders of Women of Cacao, a global, bilingual network uniting professionals across sectors within cacao and craft chocolate: from genetics and farming to chocolate making and science. The work of Women of Cacao culminates each year in the Women of Cacao Summit, a hybrid virtual and in-person global gathering. A...
Media Relations for Craft Chocolate Makers: Why You Need a Media Plan 16.06.2026 8:33
Welcome to Bean to Barstool's Media Relations for Craft Chocolate Makers series! As a full time freelance journalist in food and beverage, David Nilsen has communicated with thousands of breweries, distilleries, restaurants, chocolate makers, and other businesses, and he's seen ones who maximize their relationships with media members and outlets, and ones who are leaving opportunities o...
Redux: Spencer Hyman of Cocoa Runners 12.06.2026 37:49
Bean to Barstool Redux: Vintage but still relevant conversations from the archives without all the extra narration. Just classic interviews from really cool people in craft chocolate, craft beer, and other food and beverage fields. In this edition, we talk with Spencer Hyman, co-founder of Cocoa Runners. Spencer and I discuss the similarities between music and flavor, how understanding different t...
Bonus: Why I Don't Think You Should Use AI Graphics for Your Craft Chocolate Business 09.06.2026 9:34
Bit of a rant today: In this bonus episode, host David Nilsen talks about his concerns around the ecological and human harms of LLM AI technology, and why he doesn't think you should use it in promoting your craft chocolate business. Check out David's book Pairing Beer & Chocolate: A Guide to Bringing the Flavors of Craft Beer and Craft Chocolate Together. Follow Bean to Barstool on...
Whisky and Whimsy with David Herrick of Foundry Chocolate 02.06.2026 1:21:00
Foundry Chocolate in New Zealand release only a single inclusion bar each year, but this annual release has become one of the hottest tickets in craft chocolate. Each fall (for the Northern Hemisphere—spring for NZ), they release a bar infused with a different whisky from artisan New Zealand distillery Thomson Whisky . Each year's release is a unique flavor concept, and co-founder David Herri...
Bite Sized: Liang Wang of Kessho Chocolate 26.05.2026 6:44
Welcome to Bean to Barstool Bite Sized, where we spend about 5 minutes on a specific topic in craft beer, craft chocolate, or artisan drinks. Today we're talking with Liang Wang of Kessho Chocolate in Austin, Texas. Liang talks about Kessho’s line of tea-infused chocolate bars. Enjoy! You can listen to the entire episode this clip is from here . You can learn more about Kessho Chocolate here...
Tyler Cagwin of Nostalgia Chocolates on Selling Cacao to Breweries 19.05.2026 52:03
In today's episode, Tyler Cagwin of Nostalgia Chocolates gives advice for craft chocolate makers on selling cacao nibs and other ingredients to craft breweries. Tyler has sold cacao to many breweries in upstate New York and now in North Carolina, and it's become a substantial part of his business at Nostalgia. Here he walks us through things to consider in advance, how to approach prospe...
Redux: Beer Educator Em Sauter 15.05.2026 37:31
Bean to Barstool Redux: Vintage but still relevant conversations from the archives without all the extra narration. Just classic interviews from really cool people in craft chocolate, craft beer, and other food and beverage fields. In this edition, we talk with Em Sauter, creator of Pints & Panels and author of Hooray for Craft Beer. Em and I talk about the book, her creative process, why posi...
Bonus: 5 Most Versatile Beer Styles for Pairing with Craft Chocolate 12.05.2026 9:45
In this bonus episode, host David Nilsen talks about the most versatile craft beer styles to have on hand for pairing with craft chocolate. He explains why each style is so versatile and recommends types of craft chocolate to pair with each, and provides some information on how to host a pairing at home. You can read David's blog post on this same topic here . You can learn more about how to...
Collaboration Case Study: Estelle Tracy on Educators Partnering with Craft Chocolate Makers 05.05.2026 48:39
We recently wrapped up our four-episode series called Collaboration for Chocolate Makers, which looked at different collaboration ideas for craft chocolate companies. Today, we’re looking at a case study of a specific kind of creative collaboration within the industry to pick apart how it worked, and how you can apply it at your own chocolate operation. Estelle Tracy of 37 Chocolates is a chocolat...
Bite Sized: 5 Minutes with Wandering Monsters Brewing 28.04.2026 5:50
Welcome to Bean to Barstool Bite Sized, where we spend about 5 minutes on a specific topic in craft beer, craft chocolate, or artisan drinks. Today we're talking with Jason Brewer and Zac Boehnke of Wandering Monsters Brewing in Cincinnati, Ohio. Jason and Zac share the most important thing they've learned when working with cacao and other flavor ingredients, and the storytelling that&ap...
Collaboration for Chocolate Makers, Part 4: Creative Collaborations To Consider 21.04.2026 22:05
This is the fourth and final part in a series called Collaboration for Chocolate Makers. In the series, we walk through different types of possible collaborations and how craft chocolate makers should go about them. In this episode, we talk about ideas for creative, outside-the-box collaborations—Partnerships with businesses or community entities that you might not think about as options but can r...
Redux: Chocolate Educator Sanna Forslund 17.04.2026 41:10
Bean to Barstool Redux: Vintage but still relevant conversations from the archives without all the extra narration. Just classic interviews from really cool people in craft chocolate, craft beer, and other food and beverage fields. In this edition, is a chocolate educator who uses chocolate as a way to travel the world, recalling places she’s been and imagining ones she hasn’t, and helping others...
Bite Sized: Liang Wang of Kessho Chocolate on Branding & Art 14.04.2026 5:03
Welcome to Bean to Barstool Bite Sized, where we spend about 5 minutes on a specific topic in craft beer, craft chocolate, or artisan drinks. Today we're talking with Liang Wang of Kessho Chocolate in Austin, Texas. Liang shares the meaning behind the name Kessho , as well as the thought that goes into their wrapper artwork and mold design. Enjoy! You can listen to the entire episode this cli...
Collaboration for Chocolate Makers, part 3: Working with Other Craft Chocolate Makers 07.04.2026 20:22
This is the third in a four-part bonus series called Collaborations for Chocolate Makers. In the series, we'll walk through different types of possible collaborations and how craft chocolate makers should go about them. Today we’re going to talk about an opportunity for collaboration that I think is wildly underutilized in craft chocolate: Craft chocolate makers collaborating on products with...
Beer Learning and Language with Scott Fielder and Chris Crowe 31.03.2026 1:23:40
My friends Scott Fielder & Chris Crowe have spent the past few years publicly documenting their quest to pass the Master Cicerone exam. In late 2025, Scott Fielder became just the 29th Master Cicerone in the world. Chris, his best friend and partner in this process, came close to doing the same, and is more determined than ever to pass the exam in 2026. I sat down with Scott and Chris recentl...
Elmer Pineda of Yojoa Chocolate in Honduras 17.03.2026 47:26
Elmer Pineda and his family grow cacao and make tree to bar chocolate in the mountains of Honduras. Taking their company name from the Volcanic crater lake where their chocolate factory is located, Yojoa Chocolate makes classic two-ingredient bars, as well as a range of inclusion bars that celebrate the agricultural bounty of their corner of the world. When I connected with Elmer over Zoom recentl...
Collaboration for Chocolate Makers, Part 2—Partnering with Beverage Alcohol Producers 10.03.2026 32:10
This is the second in a four-part bonus series called Collaborations for Chocolate Makers. In the series, we'll walk through different types of possible collaborations and how craft chocolate makers should go about them. You can check out the first episode in the series here , or read it in blog form here . In this second episode, we're talking all about craft chocolate collaborations wi...
Mike King of Encore Coffee and Chocolate 03.03.2026 37:54
Mike King at Encore Coffee and Chocolate in Kansas City is currently making some of the best coffee-infused craft chocolate bars on the market. I’ve had the chance to talk with Mike at the Midwest Craft Chocolate Festival the past couple years, and we were finally able to connect for a conversation for Bean to Barstool a couple weeks ago. We talk all about the overlap between these worlds, what h...
Collaboration for Chocolate Makers Part 1: Why Do It, and General Considerations 24.02.2026 32:36
Back in the first episode of 2026 , I shares some things I think craft chocolate can learn from craft beer. One of those lessons (and, upon reflection, one of the only positive ones) was to collaborate expansively. While craft chocolate makers periodically partner with breweries and coffee roasters, the avenues for collaboration in the industry remain pretty limited. That's a shame, because c...
Brewing Pastry Stouts Thoughtfully with Wandering Monsters Brewing 17.02.2026 39:02
Today we're talking with Jason Brewer and Zac Boehnke of Wandering Monsters Brewing in Cincinnati, Ohio. While they brew a wide variety of beers well, they're best known for excellent adjunct stouts like Viator Obscura: Triple Chocolate, which has medaled at both Great American Beer Festival and World Beer Cup. In this episode, Jason and Zac talk about how they approach brewing with caca...
Redux: Uncommon Cacao 13.02.2026 33:14
Bean to Barstool Redux: Vintage but still relevant conversations from the archives without all the extra narration. Just classic interviews from really cool people in craft chocolate, craft beer, and other food and beverage fields. In this edition, we hear from Emily Stone, founder of Uncommon Cacao, who supplies cacao for hundreds of bean to bar chocolate makers and, indirectly through their bean...
Bite Sized: Pairing Beer and Chocolate 10.02.2026 7:10
Welcome to Bean to Barstool Bite Sized, where we spend about 5 minutes on a specific topic in craft beer, craft chocolate, or artisan drinks. Today we're looking back at one of the first deep dives I ever did on pairing beer and chocolate for Bean to Barstool. Enjoy! You can listen to the entire episode this clip is from here . Check out David's book Pairing Beer & Chocolate: A Guide...
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