Steve Fretzin

BE THAT LAWYER

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BE THAT LAWYER is for attorneys who want more freedom, enjoyment and most importantly, control in their career. Topics will include business development, marketing, branding, technology, and law firm growth. The goal is to educate, entertain and share best practices related to these topics, so that you, the listener can get real value. This is primarily an interview show with great guests (attorneys and legal marketing professionals), sharing stories and analogies, as well as engaging in personal discussions that will keep you entertained and coming back week after week.

Author

Steve Fretzin

Category

Business

Latest episode

Jul 9, 2026

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Episodes

Greg Eisenberg: Building a Scalable Law Firm Without Losing Your Identity 28.04.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Greg Eisenberg discuss: How law firm business models are quickly shifting due to tech and market forces Why branding and visibility are critical for firms of any size Ways small and solo firms can compete with major legal players How legal entrepreneurship is evolving through collaboration   Key Takeaways: Small law firms can remain competitive by joining collect...

Lindsey Busfield: What Lawyers Need to Know About SEO, Social Media, and Client Fit 24.04.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Lindsey Busfield discuss: The nuances and strategic use of SEO for law firm marketing The importance of selective client intake for long-term success Evaluating the effectiveness of social media versus SEO in legal marketing Utilizing modern website tools and AI-driven bots for better client engagement   Key Takeaways: SEO can be a game-changer, but only for firm...

Jody Glidden: How to Be the Lawyer Clients Never Leave—With a Little Help from AI 21.04.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Jody Glidden discuss: The evolution and growing impact of AI in professional services Challenges lawyers face in client relationship management The limitations and future of traditional CRMs Strategies for maintaining and expanding client relationships   Key Takeaways: 43% of clients leave law firms not because of service quality but due to poor communication and...

Kyle Hebenstreit: Boutique Law in Motion with Private Equity Client Personas and Digital Platforms 17.04.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Kyle Hebenstreit discuss: The evolving legal industry landscape due to institutional capital and Big Four involvement Rising competition and channel fragmentation in legal marketing Strategic marketing approaches tailored to client personas and firm types Operational and budgetary decisions that influence long-term law firm growth   Key Takeaways: Private equity...

Ed Levy: Building Trust Appreciation and Referrals Through Relationship Marketing 14.04.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Ed Levy discuss: Building and nurturing authentic client relationships in professional services Increasing referrals through trust and engagement The psychological value of personalized client appreciation The role of networking and peer communities in growing a legal practice   Key Takeaways: Small, personal gestures—like handwritten notes or thoughtful gifts—ca...

Alex Geisler: Creating Sticky Client Relationships in Law 10.04.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Alex Geisler discuss: Building long-term client loyalty in legal practice Structuring legal work around client expectations and needs Improving legal service delivery through lean process thinking Developing deeper relationships through proactive, strategic communication   Key Takeaways: Long-term client loyalty is built through the TREE approach: Transparency in...

Judy Barton: Lessons in Business Adaptation and Customer-Centric Innovation 07.04.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Judy Barton discuss: Cultivating meaningful and lasting business relationships Effective networking techniques for lawyers and financial professionals Establishing credibility and attracting opportunities The importance of integrity in business   Key Takeaways: Effective networking is not about collecting contacts but about fostering genuine, mutually beneficial...

Michael Vater: Expanding Legal Practice with Non Traditional Methods and Partnerships 03.04.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Michael Vater discuss: Growth and networking beyond traditional legal marketing Leveraging legal tech and AI to enhance efficiency Building strategic partnerships for sustainable growth Effectively balancing leadership, operations, and legal work   Key Takeaways: Lawyers should build strategic partnerships with realtors, title agents, and medical professionals wh...

Tom Ciesielka: Building a Strong Legal Reputation Through Public Relations 31.03.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Tom Ciesielka discuss: The role of public relations and reputation management in the legal industry The importance of media visibility and thought leadership for lawyers Balancing legal ethics, confidentiality, and public exposure in marketing The impact of social media on modern public relations strategies   Key Takeaways: Media outlets prioritize availability a...

Jim Ries: The Giver’s Guide to Business Development & Networking Mastery 27.03.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Jim Ries discuss: Why business development is a critical yet often overlooked skill for lawyers The role of networking in long-term professional success How adopting a giver’s mentality leads to stronger professional relationships Best practices and common mistakes in networking and relationship-building   Key Takeaways: Taking a few minutes to research a common...

David Ackert: Build Meaningful and Strategic Connections That Drive Business 24.03.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and David Ackert discuss: The importance of strategic networking Leveraging existing contacts for business growth The role of influence and prioritization in business development The psychology behind relationship building   Key Takeaways: Attendees should prioritize learning about others, finding strategic partners, and providing value instead of aggressively sellin...

Kyle Harbaugh: Fixing the Hiring Crisis in Law Firms with Smarter Strategies 20.03.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Kyle Harbaugh discuss: Challenges in law firm business operations The importance of business strategy in law firms Hiring and leadership in law firms Leveraging AI and technology for growth   Key Takeaways: Many attorneys excel in legal practice but struggle with business management because law school does not prepare them for running a firm, resulting in ineffic...

Dennis Meador: Winning at Marketing and Personal Branding Beyond the Billable Hour 17.03.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Dennis Meador discuss: How lawyers can market themselves effectively in an increasingly competitive industry The role of personal branding in helping attorneys differentiate themselves from competitors Why podcasting is a valuable tool for business development and client acquisition Adapting to changing trends in SEO, social media, and content marketing   Key Tak...

Blake Strautins: How Lawyers Can Improve Time Management Delegation and Strategic Growth 13.03.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Blake Strautins discuss: The importance of business development for lawyers How accountability and culture shape a law firm’s success Time management and delegation for legal professionals Personal and professional growth in legal leadership   Key Takeaways: Building connections early with strategic partners, attorneys, and clients creates long-term opportunities...

Mina Haque: Navigating Solo Practice and Entrepreneurship 10.03.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Mina Haque discuss: Overcoming challenges in growing a law practice The impact of digital tools on professional success Essential skills lawyers need beyond legal expertise The mindset shifts necessary for entrepreneurial success   Key Takeaways: Solo law practice has become significantly more accessible due to virtual offices, law practice management software, a...

Belle Walker: The Lawyer’s Guide to Delegation, Efficiency, and Sustainable Success 06.03.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Belle Walker discuss: Why law firms struggle with inefficiencies and miscommunication The impact of unclear roles and accountability gaps in law firms How legal technology and AI are changing law firm operations Why structured processes are essential for business growth and client satisfaction   Key Takeaways: Lawyers often assume their team understands their exp...

Nicola Hobeiche and Shereen El Domeiri: Inside the Mind of In-House Counsel: What Outside Lawyers Must Know 03.03.2025

In this episode, Steve, Nicola, and Shereen discuss: Building strong relationships between in-house and outside counsel The importance of business acumen in legal practice Networking and business development for lawyers Adapting to the evolving legal industry   Key Takeaways: Outside counsel should recognize that in-house lawyers often make rapid decisions with limited information and need concise...

Mike Chastaine: How to Master Your Time and Build a Thriving Firm 27.02.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Mike Chastaine discuss: Managing time effectively and focusing on high-value tasks Law firm growth and business development The psychology of productivity Work-life balance and self-improvement   Key Takeaways: Prioritizing control over your daily schedule is essential because, rather than trying to manage time itself, lawyers should focus on managing their actio...

Bruce La Fetra: The Client Whisperer’s Playbook in Building a Thriving Law Practice 24.02.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Bruce La Fetra discuss: The importance of understanding your best clients Marketing strategy for law firms in a competitive landscape The difference between experts and advisors The power of client testimonials and validation   Key Takeaways: The best clients are not only more profitable but also easier to work with, as they buy faster, pay more, and create fewer...

James Rodgers: Rethinking Workplace Diversity for the Future 20.02.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and James Rodgers discuss: Evolution and confusion surrounding DEI in the workplace Human nature’s role in shaping workplace dynamics AI and automation as the next diversity challenge Managing generational differences in the workforce   Key Takeaways: DEI has repeatedly risen and fallen as activists and organizations redefine it, creating confusion over its true purp...

Saja Raoof: The Introvert’s Advantage: Networking, Law, and Business Growth 17.02.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Saja Raoof discuss: Introversion in professional networking Building a legal practice as an introvert Managing energy and making meaningful connections The role of systems in business development   Key Takeaways: Taking intentional breaks during networking events, such as stepping away for alone time, is a crucial strategy for introverts to manage their energy an...

Jay McAllister: The Next Evolution of AI in Legal Practice 13.02.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Jay McAllister discuss: The evolving role of AI in legal practice Leveraging AI for business development and marketing Ethical and risk considerations when using AI in law The future of legal technology and the rise of agentic AI   Key Takeaways: Many law firms have shifted from traditional keyword-based legal research to AI-powered tools that analyze case law an...

Ken Hardison: KPIs, Systems, and Business Strategies for Sustainable Success 10.02.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Ken Hardison discuss: Growing a law firm that runs independently and becomes a sellable asset Building relationships and giving value first Using structured processes and key metrics to drive predictable growth Mentorship, collaboration, and shared expertise   Key Takeaways: A law firm can only be sold for real value if it operates independently, maintains a stea...

Chuck Andrews: The Mental and Business Foundations of Career Growth and Transitions 06.02.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Chuck Andrews discuss: Challenges in making law firms and businesses scalable and saleable Strategic and mental preparation for business transitions Understanding client needs as a driver for business growth Overcoming personal barriers to achieve professional success   Key Takeaways: Many lawyers fail to create saleable practices because they don’t view their fi...

Sam Mollaei: The AI Advantage: Revolutionizing Legal Practices for 2025 and Beyond 03.02.2025

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Sam Mollaei discuss: Strategies for scaling and automating a law firm Effective time management and focus for professionals The role of social media and marketing in client generation Utilizing AI and technology for efficiency in legal practice   Key Takeaways: To manage time effectively, create a strict schedule using tools like Google Calendar and focus exclusi...

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