IntraFi
Banking with Interest
Banking with Interest, a podcast by IntraFi, features in-depth analysis and insight into the policy changes reshaping the banking industry. With insightful interviews and previews of pending policy challenges, the podcast is an essential listen for anyone connected to the financial services industry. Banking with Interest is hosted by Rob Blackwell, an award-winning former journalist with more than two decades of experience as an expert on financial services policy. He is now Chief Content Officer and Head of External Affairs with IntraFi. The show is produced by Sam Navarro, senior principal...
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Jun 30, 2026
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Inside a Reg Split on Basel and the Battle for FDIC Control 25.06.2024 28:19
Pete Schroeder, who covers financial regulation and policy for Reuters, breaks down why federal banking agencies are split on how to finalize new capital rules and explains how policymakers are reacting to a nominee for FDIC chair.
Catch Check Fraud If You Can: The Growing Issue for Banks, Consumers 11.06.2024 40:22
Frank Abagnale Jr., an expert on check forgery and the subject and inspiration for Steven Spielberg's film "Catch Me If You Can," talks about why check fraud is so much worse in recent years despite the overall decline of use of checks. He talks about why banks are struggling to detect forgeries, how policymakers should address the issue, and why the problem is poised to become even more dire.
The Coming Battle Over Zelle Fraud 04.06.2024 31:10
Penny Crosman, executive editor of technology at American Banker, goes behind the scenes on a case of Zelle fraud that cost a consumer thousands of dollars—and what it means for a coming policy fight between the big banks and Washington over the real-time payment system.
The Massive Impacts of a Whirlwind Week for Banking Policy 22.05.2024 30:17
Andrew Ackerman, a financial services reporter for the Wall Street Journal , discusses what happens next after FDIC Chair Martin Gruenberg's surprise announcement that he will resign upon confirmation of a successor. Ackerman also details how regulators plan to dial back the Basel III Endgame proposal, and talks about the CFPB's future after the Supreme Court upheld its funding structure.
"A Political Thunderdome": The High Stakes for FDIC at Two Hill Hearings 14.05.2024 43:18
Brendan Pedersen, the financial services reporter for Punchbowl News, discusses the critical importance of upcoming hearings to the future of the FDIC and disturbing revelations from a recent report looking into the agency's culture. He also discusses an upcoming House vote on a crypto bill and the latest on financial privacy and stablecoin legislation.
Rep. Lucas on HFSC Chair Bid, Bank Consolidation, Fed Independence 08.05.2024 42:49
Rep. Frank Lucas, the longest serving Republican on the House Financial Services Committee, makes his case for why he should be the next chair, offering his views on community bank consolidation, whether the Fed should be independent, the dangers of quantum computing and how history informs his view of government agencies and programs.
Could a Stablecoin Bill "Shatter" the Wall Between Banking and Commerce? 01.05.2024 43:11
Hilary Allen, a law professor at American University Washington College of Law, warns that a stablecoin regulation bill could open the door to mixing banking and commerce, allowing WalMart, Amazon or Google to effectively set up their own bank without facing bank-like regulations. She also details issues with the legislation introduced to date, including failures to address critically important is...
The Populist Threat to Banks 24.04.2024 38:28
John Heltman and Claire Williams, two journalists with American Banker , discuss the outlet's recent series on populism and how it impacts banks. They tackle why the banking industry is so often the target of populist politicians from both the left and the right, how populism is changing the debate on various bank policy debates now, and what comes next.
Klein vs. Calabria Round 2: How to Solve the Housing Crisis 17.04.2024 36:44
Aaron Klein, senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, and Mark Calabria, former director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, debate the best way to address the housing crisis, as well as the dangers of politicizing banking regulation, whether the Fed is too worried about consensus, if the central bank is secretly working on a central bank digital currency and who should play The Sphere next....
Calabria vs. Klein Round 1: Bank Rescues, Fed Playing Politics, Liquidity Fixes 10.04.2024 40:07
Mark Calabria, former director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, and Aaron Klein, senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, discuss how politics factors into the Fed's monetary policy decisions, decry the rescue of uninsured depositors last year, debate how to fix liquidity rules and weigh in on revamping the FHLBs.
Steele on What's Needed After SVB, Biggest Threat to Banks, M&A Policy 03.04.2024 47:31
Graham Steele, the former Treasury assistant secretary for financial institutions, offers a behind-the-scenes perspective on regulators' decision to rescue uninsured depositors at Silicon Valley Bank and two other regional banks. He also discusses what policy changes are still needed as a result, the greatest challenge facing the banking industry, and why he's worried about a "catastrophic" cybers...
How SVB's Collapse Changed Bank Policy for Good 21.03.2024 32:06
One year after the fall of Silicon Valley Bank, the reverberations into banking policy continue. Brian Gardner, Chief Washington Policy Strategist at investment bank Stifel, discusses how the failure impacted bank supervision and the debate over new capital and liquidity rules—and how it will remain a part of the calculus moving forward.
Whip Emmer on CBDCs, "Junk" Fees, Crypto and Community Banks 13.03.2024 38:16
House Majority Whip Tom Emmer talks about his fears for the future of small banks—and how to reverse course—and why his movement to ban the Fed from creating a CBDC has gained steam. He also tackles his predictions for the House elections this year, the CFPB's push against so-called "junk" fees and how he became one of the leading advocates for cryptocurrency in Congress.
"The Most Contentious Fight in Washington Right Now" 06.03.2024 35:45
Richard Hunt, executive chair of the Electronic Payments Coalition, talks about the battle over Capital One buying Discover, how it connects to the Durbin amendment's restrictions on debit interchange fees, and why the fight over another Durbin legislative proposal on credit cards is so heated.
How Banks Can Win the Battle for Deposits 28.02.2024 34:18
Neil Stanley, CEO of the CorePoint, offers strategies and products banks can use to attract and retain deposits in a highly competitive deposit environment.
Esther George on Interest Rate Cuts, CRE, Bank Failures, and Everything in Between 21.02.2024 47:53
The former Kansas City Fed president talks about the persistence of inflation, when the central bank is likely to lower interest rates, how worried she is about office CRE, the lessons from the failures of three regional banks last year, whether she supports a central bank digital currency, and the future of community banks.
Are We Headed for Another Regional Bank Crisis? 13.02.2024 23:57
After a prominent regional bank slashed its dividend amid unexpected losses related to office commercial real estate loans, some in the media are raising fears that another round of failures could be in the offing. Jaret Seiberg, managing director of Cowen's Washington Research Group, details what happened, how regulators are responding, and whether it's a sign of more trouble or a one-off event.
Why the War Over "Junk" Fees Has Heated Up 06.02.2024 25:03
Kate Berry, who covers the CFPB for American Banker, goes behind the scenes on the consumer agency's latest proposals to limit overdraft fees and institute new limits around nonsufficient funds transactions.
Bank M&A was "miserable" in 2023. Will this year be even worse? 30.01.2024 19:10
Naomi Snyder, editor-in-chief of Bank Director, discusses why the bank M&A market was so bad in 2023, and what changes need to happen for it to improve.
The "Existential" CFPB Plan Banks Should Care About 23.01.2024 33:25
John Pitts, head of policy for Plaid, argues a new CFPB open-data proposal could transform the financial services industry. He says bankers, many of whom are skeptical of the plan, could see significant opportunities, including a greater ability to attract new customers.
Would Banks Win a Lawsuit Against the Basel III Capital Plan? 17.01.2024 33:06
Greg Baer, CEO of the Bank Policy Institute, makes the case that regulators did not follow the law when they proposed new capital standards for the biggest banks by failing to provide adequate analysis and data. He details what he believes is missing and why he's confident a final rule will be substantially different.
The Road Ahead for Community Banks in 2024 12.12.2023 40:54
Derek Williams, chairman of ICBA and President and CEO of Century Bank & Trust in Milledgeville, Georgia, talks about the challenges and opportunities for community banks as they head into a new year, including how he sees economic issues and policy debates playing out.
Attack of the (Voice) Clones: The Perils of AI for Banks 05.12.2023 35:35
As AI becomes more prevalent, what are the risks to banks and consumers, particularly as software can now allow fraudsters to imitate a person's voice? Emily Flitter, reporter for the New York Times , talks about the growing threat from AI on financial security, how it is already changing lending and what policymakers can do to address it.
How FHLB Reform Can Help Banks, Housing 28.11.2023 42:47
Cornelius Hurley, professor at Boston University School of Law, breaks down the recent FHFA report calling for sweeping changes to the Home Loan Bank system. He discusses why it's important to refocus the banks on mission and how the debates over the report's finding will play out in future rulemakings and legislation.
Quarles on Capital Plan, SVB Criticism, Interest Rates & Fed Power Dynamics 14.11.2023 56:16
Randal Quarles, the former Fed vice chair, details how the new Basel III capital proposal could hurt the economy, casts doubt on the legality of the Fed's stress tests, and pushes back on criticism that his actions helped cause the failure of three regional banks earlier this spring. He also talks about his biggest concerns in the financial system right now, where interest rates are likely to go...
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