IntraFi
Banking with Interest
Banking with Interest, a podcast by IntraFi, features in-depth analysis and insight into the policy changes reshaping the banking industry. With insightful interviews and previews of pending policy challenges, the podcast is an essential listen for anyone connected to the financial services industry. Banking with Interest is hosted by Rob Blackwell, an award-winning former journalist with more than two decades of experience as an expert on financial services policy. He is now Chief Content Officer and Head of External Affairs with IntraFi. The show is produced by Sam Navarro, senior principal...
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Jun 30, 2026
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Fmr. Sen. Toomey: Why Debanking Crypto Occurred—And How to Solve It 04.02.2025 33:12
Former Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa., one of the first lawmakers to sound alarms about the debanking of crypto firms , talks about President Trump's accusation that large banks are systemically debanking conservatives, and what he thinks is really going on. That includes how policymakers could fix the issue permanently and why some proposed solutions might backfire.
Rep. Waters on Dem's Strategy, Stablecoins, Housing & More 29.01.2025 38:21
Rep. Maxine Waters, lead Democrat on House Financial Services, discusses how the committee and Congress have changed in her long tenure, her relationship with Chair French Hill, and the importance of community banks. She also unveils the Democratic agenda for this Congress, including housing reform, stablecoin regulation and more.
What Community Bankers Want from D.C. 22.01.2025 33:33
Brad Bolton, the CEO of Community Spirit Bank in Red Bay, Ala., discusses the state of community banking right now, including what challenges he and other small institutions face and how they hope policymakers can help. He dives into concerns about new small business lending data requirements and other pending regulations, calls for bank consolidation, and what worries him most.
The End of Independent Bank Regulation? 14.01.2025 23:59
Michael Barr's surprising decision to step down as Fed vice chair of banking supervision next month allows the incoming Trump administration to make its own pick for the job and raises questions about the political independence of the banking regulators going forward. Andrew Ackerman, senior financial reporter with The Washington Post , walks through the implications for banks and discusses Barr'...
OCC's Hsu on Unfinished Business, Reg Restructuring & Dangers Ahead 02.01.2025 35:06
Acting Comptroller of the Currency Michael Hsu talks about his three-plus years at the forefront of bank regulation, including what regulators learned from the fall of SVB, why we still need new Basel capital rules, and whether regulatory restructuring would be worth the effort.
What's the Future of the CFPB and FDIC Under Trump? 17.12.2024 36:50
Evan Weinberger, the banking reporter at Bloomberg Law, talks about the Trump administration's trial balloon to eliminate the FDIC or combine regulatory agencies. He also goes in-depth on the various fights the CFPB is engaged in, how the Trump administration could choose to tackle them, and what that would mean for banks.
Crypto's Win, Stablecoins' Future & Debanking Debate 12.12.2024 45:20
Alex Johnson, the founder and publisher of Fintech Takes, tackles several hot-button topics, including how the crypto industry's election victories will influence the next Trump administration, and why hype around stablecoins as a replacement for banks may be misplaced. He also discusses whether banks are really engaging in debanking as a prominent venture capitalist recently claimed.
What Trump's Treasury Pick Means for Banks, Fed and Wall Street 05.12.2024 29:06
Sam Sutton, the primary author of Politico's Morning Money newsletter, goes behind the scenes on why President-elect Trump chose Scott Bessent to lead the Treasury Department. Sutton discusses Bessent's experience and agenda, how his views on tariffs and inflation will play out in the next administration, and how they portend a potential brewing conflict with the Federal Reserve.
Behind Rep. Hill's Plan to Make Community Banks Great Again 26.11.2024 44:35
Rep. French Hill, a top contender to lead the House Financial Services Committee, details his plan to help banks, including revamping regulators' approach to M&A, ending Operation Choke Point, and encouraging more de novos. He also discusses his views on Scott Bessent, President-elect Trump's nominee for Treasury secretary, the mood among GOP lawmakers, how the government can confront fraud at ban...
CBA's Johnson on CFPB Under Trump, Open Banking and Junk Fees vs. Junk Facts 21.11.2024 37:12
Lindsey Johnson, CEO and president of the Consumer Bankers Association, talks about how the CFPB may change under the second Trump administration. Will a Trump-appointed CFPB director roll back the recently finalized open data rule? What happens for banks and consumers if that rule is left to stand? She also tackles the future of the agency's overdraft proposal and small business lending rule.
The Massive Implications for Banks from the GOP's Sweeping Victory 13.11.2024 43:45
With Republicans set to control the White House, Senate, and House next year, Victoria Guida of Politico and Brendan Pedersen of Punchbowl News dive into the implications for financial services companies. That includes what it means for the Fed, including whether President-elect Trump might try to oust Chair Jerome Powell, and what kinds of leaders will take the reins of the Congressional banking...
How Generative AI Agents Could Threaten Financial Stability 05.11.2024 37:22
The rise of generative AI agents have promised consumers a better, safer future. But what happens if those agents act in ways that destabilize the system, causing bank runs or better enable bad actors to commit fraud or hack financial institutions? Todd Phillips, assistant professor at Georgia State University's Robinson College of Business, talks about his new paper looking into how AI could wrea...
How CFPB's Open Data Rule Will Impact Banks 30.10.2024 43:26
Kate Berry, a reporter for American Banker, and Christopher Williston, the CEO of the Independent Bankers Association of Texas, go in-depth to discuss the CFPB's final Section 1033 rule, which implements open banking. They tackle which institutions are most at risk from the final rule, why trade groups are suing to block it, and how the CFPB is responding to bank fears it will spur more fraud.
How Russia Targets Banks, Wall Street 23.10.2024 45:16
Eamon Javers, a senior Washington correspondent for CNBC, talks about his new podcast, "The Crimes of Putin's Trader," and how Russia is using hackers to infiltrate banks and Wall Street. He goes behind the scenes on the case of Vladislav Klyushin, who was convicted by the U.S. of insider trading, how he was traded back this summer to Russia, and what it means for financial firms here.
What the 2024 Election Means for Bankers 16.10.2024 41:42
Cam Fine, former CEO and president of ICBA, and Ed Yingling, former CEO and president of ABA, discuss and debate the possible outcomes of the election—Presidential, House and Senate—and what they could mean for banking policy.
Do Regulators Want to Kill Banking-as-a-Service? 09.10.2024 44:57
Jason Mikula, publisher of Fintech Business Weekly, talks about the ongoing fallout from the failure of fintech Synapse, and banking regulators' efforts to ensure it can't happen again. Are regulators going too far? Is this the end of banking-as-a-service?
Bill Huizenga on AI, Dangers of Activist Investors & CFPB Overreach 01.10.2024 30:36
Rep. Bill Huizenga, R-Mich., the chair of the House Financial Services oversight subcommittee, talks about his agenda if selected as GOP leader of the full panel next year, including looking deeper at artificial intelligence, regulating crypto, and fixing housing. He also talks about his focus on reining in activist investors, what he wants to see the next CFPB director tackle and the limitations...
The Potential "Perverse" Consequences for Banks of New M&A Policies 24.09.2024 35:42
Karen Shaw Petrou, managing partner of Federal Financial Analytics, details how new guidelines by federal regulators to curb M&A could inadvertently increase the market power of the biggest banks and Big Tech.
How FHLBs See the Battle Over Reform 18.09.2024 49:02
Ryan Donovan, the head of the Council of Federal Home Loan Banks, pushes back against criticisms that the government-sponsored enterprises have strayed from their mission. He outlines what the FHLBs want as part of a reform effort by their regulator.
Andy Barr on Fair Access Law for Banks, Basel III's Finale, Reg Relief and M&A Reform 10.09.2024 38:15
Rep. Andy Barr, the chair of the House financial institutions subcommittee, discusses why he should lead Republicans on the Financial Services Committee next year. He offers a preview of his agenda, including pushing legislation that would prevent banks from denying legal businesses access to financial services and why large institutions are suddenly supporting it. He also details what changes reg...
Inside the "Summer of Small Cuts" for Banks 04.09.2024 32:27
Jaret Seiberg, managing director of TD Cowen's Washington Research Group, discusses the many policy changes facing banks this summer, including the FDIC's brokered deposit proposal, the Fed's new FAQ on the discount window, a Texas court decision on the small business rule, and the new uncertainties the election poses for the industry.
Inside the CFPB's Sprint to the Finish Line 31.07.2024 49:36
Alex Johnson, founder of Fintech Takes, discusses the CFPB's race to complete as many regulatory initiatives – on earned wage access products, open data, privacy and more – ahead of the November election. And he talks about why banking as a service has turned into a "high-wire act without a safety net" in the wake of the Synapse bankruptcy.
French Hill on Crypto Reg, Housing Reform, SVB Lessons & Bank Consolidation 24.07.2024 36:29
Rep. French Hill, one of the leading candidates to chair the House Financial Services Committee next year, makes his case for the job, discussing how his former role as a bank CEO would help guide his agenda. He talks about why he's worked so hard on crypto and stablecoin regulation bills, his vision for housing reform, the lessons of SVB, the end of Chevron deference, and his concerns on bank con...
The Titanic Shift in Banking Policy Ahead 17.07.2024 41:50
Claire Williams, Capitol Hill reporter for American Banker , and Brendan Pedersen, who covers financial services for Punchbowl News , discuss the latest on financial policy. Will Christy Romero Goldsmith be confirmed to lead the FDIC? Is Basel III Endgame dead? How could Sen. J.D. Vance as vice president impact bank policy going forward?
A Looming Crisis in CRE? What Bankers Need to Know 09.07.2024 44:15
Phil Mobley, national director of office analytics for CoStar, the leading firm when it comes to commercial real estate, talks about how the market has changed in the wake of the pandemic. He discusses the trends right now, where the market is headed, and what risk office CRE poses to banks.
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